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Postby Risottia » Fri May 24, 2013 12:39 am

My guess about the homophobia is that some people who like to think of themselves as "pure heterosexual" are scared of their own latent non-heterosexuality.
Plus, humans love to have someone to hate.

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Postby Immoren » Fri May 24, 2013 12:39 am

Because they are jealous of their fabulousness. *nods*
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Postby Delmonte » Fri May 24, 2013 12:49 am

I'm a homosexual and I hate the way that homosexuals have been portrayed, largely by the activity of homosexuals. 95+% of homosexual men are just regular guys who want to lead regular lives and happen to be attracted to men. Then you've got the 5-% that give the rest of us a bad name by doing crazy shit. And I just can't describe it any other way. There's no problem with "gay pride" or w/e, but when you throw rainbow parades that falls under "crazy shit". And it's stuff like that that causes straight men to dismiss the lot of us as immature fruity douchebags because the only people that they see and KNOW are gay behave like immature fruity douchebags. Most of us don't have that "gay vibe". Most of us don't dress flamboyantly with boas and ascots. Most of us don't do crazy shit. Nixon was a dick, but he hit it on the head when he talked about the Silent Majority. The reason gays are overrepresented by loud, very effeminate, fruity guys is by the virtue of the fact that though they are a minority, they are a very noisy minority. And I get so sick of it sometimes, because I want to blame society and straight guys and our parents and our schools. I really fucking do. But how can I blame them when the only people that they know at a glance are gay act like that? How can we expect to be taken seriously when we're represented by the people who throw Pride Parades? And it's even more infuriating because, as I said, these people make up the TINIEST goddamn fraction of the gay population. /rant

And now for the necessary part of the text where I address the self-righteous people who think I'm self loathing. I'm not. Really, I'm not. I have sex with men and I enjoy it. I love being me and I wouldn't be anyone else for all the money in the world. Nobody thinks the way I do and I cherish that. Not self loathing. What I do loath is the fact that I get written off because of the behavior of a tiny little sliver of gay men. And while society shouldn't stereotype based on the actions of a few it's a little different for gay guys because you may not "know" that someone is gay so all the gays who just act like normal goddamn people are overlooked. So nobody, really, is to blame except for those very very few gays who give the rest of us a bad name. And I really wouldn't take much issue with Pride Parades if they didn't almost universally devolve into colorful feathers/sex festivals.
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Postby New Rogernomics » Fri May 24, 2013 1:57 am

What if straight was gay and gay was straight (this has been mirrored from another channel): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzFnV3vwqD0

Basically changes things around, into a what if scenario, as heterosexual people/breeders are shown to be discriminated against like the LGBT community can be today. Can be quite unsettling near the end, so duly warned.
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Postby Condunum » Fri May 24, 2013 2:01 am

Delmonte wrote:I'm a homosexual and I hate the way that homosexuals have been portrayed, largely by the activity of homosexuals. 95+% of homosexual men are just regular guys who want to lead regular lives and happen to be attracted to men. Then you've got the 5-% that give the rest of us a bad name by doing crazy shit. And I just can't describe it any other way. There's no problem with "gay pride" or w/e, but when you throw rainbow parades that falls under "crazy shit". And it's stuff like that that causes straight men to dismiss the lot of us as immature fruity douchebags because the only people that they see and KNOW are gay behave like immature fruity douchebags. Most of us don't have that "gay vibe". Most of us don't dress flamboyantly with boas and ascots. Most of us don't do crazy shit. Nixon was a dick, but he hit it on the head when he talked about the Silent Majority. The reason gays are overrepresented by loud, very effeminate, fruity guys is by the virtue of the fact that though they are a minority, they are a very noisy minority. And I get so sick of it sometimes, because I want to blame society and straight guys and our parents and our schools. I really fucking do. But how can I blame them when the only people that they know at a glance are gay act like that? How can we expect to be taken seriously when we're represented by the people who throw Pride Parades? And it's even more infuriating because, as I said, these people make up the TINIEST goddamn fraction of the gay population. /rant

And now for the necessary part of the text where I address the self-righteous people who think I'm self loathing. I'm not. Really, I'm not. I have sex with men and I enjoy it. I love being me and I wouldn't be anyone else for all the money in the world. Nobody thinks the way I do and I cherish that. Not self loathing. What I do loath is the fact that I get written off because of the behavior of a tiny little sliver of gay men. And while society shouldn't stereotype based on the actions of a few it's a little different for gay guys because you may not "know" that someone is gay so all the gays who just act like normal goddamn people are overlooked. So nobody, really, is to blame except for those very very few gays who give the rest of us a bad name. And I really wouldn't take much issue with Pride Parades if they didn't almost universally devolve into colorful feathers/sex festivals.

*brain broke*

I don't... I... I... Mother fucker, this is it. This is how it ends. This, right fucking here, is how the world ends.
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Postby Immoren » Fri May 24, 2013 2:02 am

Condunum wrote:
Delmonte wrote:I'm a homosexual and I hate the way that homosexuals have been portrayed, largely by the activity of homosexuals. 95+% of homosexual men are just regular guys who want to lead regular lives and happen to be attracted to men. Then you've got the 5-% that give the rest of us a bad name by doing crazy shit. And I just can't describe it any other way. There's no problem with "gay pride" or w/e, but when you throw rainbow parades that falls under "crazy shit". And it's stuff like that that causes straight men to dismiss the lot of us as immature fruity douchebags because the only people that they see and KNOW are gay behave like immature fruity douchebags. Most of us don't have that "gay vibe". Most of us don't dress flamboyantly with boas and ascots. Most of us don't do crazy shit. Nixon was a dick, but he hit it on the head when he talked about the Silent Majority. The reason gays are overrepresented by loud, very effeminate, fruity guys is by the virtue of the fact that though they are a minority, they are a very noisy minority. And I get so sick of it sometimes, because I want to blame society and straight guys and our parents and our schools. I really fucking do. But how can I blame them when the only people that they know at a glance are gay act like that? How can we expect to be taken seriously when we're represented by the people who throw Pride Parades? And it's even more infuriating because, as I said, these people make up the TINIEST goddamn fraction of the gay population. /rant

And now for the necessary part of the text where I address the self-righteous people who think I'm self loathing. I'm not. Really, I'm not. I have sex with men and I enjoy it. I love being me and I wouldn't be anyone else for all the money in the world. Nobody thinks the way I do and I cherish that. Not self loathing. What I do loath is the fact that I get written off because of the behavior of a tiny little sliver of gay men. And while society shouldn't stereotype based on the actions of a few it's a little different for gay guys because you may not "know" that someone is gay so all the gays who just act like normal goddamn people are overlooked. So nobody, really, is to blame except for those very very few gays who give the rest of us a bad name. And I really wouldn't take much issue with Pride Parades if they didn't almost universally devolve into colorful feathers/sex festivals.

*brain broke*

I don't... I... I... Mother fucker, this is it. This is how it ends. This, right fucking here, is how the world ends.

Whimper or bang?
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Postby Condunum » Fri May 24, 2013 2:06 am

Immoren wrote:
Condunum wrote:*brain broke*

I don't... I... I... Mother fucker, this is it. This is how it ends. This, right fucking here, is how the world ends.

Whimper or bang?

A whimper. A slow, depressing, drab, colorless, fashion blind whimper.
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Postby Royalnation » Fri May 24, 2013 2:10 am

The society is responsible for this discrimination..if u like gay then u too are called 'gay',disliking is like proving your own orientation.. :palm:

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Postby San Whoopee » Fri May 24, 2013 2:13 am

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Homosexuality is not an action, it is a part of personal identity. If you "hate the sin", you automatically hate the "sinner".

The sin in this context is the action of homosexual relations, not the identification as homosexual.


So you have no problem with two homosexuals just having an intimate conversation? Last I checked, talking wasn't a sin.

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Postby San Whoopee » Fri May 24, 2013 2:17 am

Delmonte wrote:I'm a homosexual and I hate the way that homosexuals have been portrayed, largely by the activity of homosexuals. 95+% of homosexual men are just regular guys who want to lead regular lives and happen to be attracted to men. Then you've got the 5-% that give the rest of us a bad name by doing crazy shit. And I just can't describe it any other way. There's no problem with "gay pride" or w/e, but when you throw rainbow parades that falls under "crazy shit". And it's stuff like that that causes straight men to dismiss the lot of us as immature fruity douchebags because the only people that they see and KNOW are gay behave like immature fruity douchebags. Most of us don't have that "gay vibe". Most of us don't dress flamboyantly with boas and ascots. Most of us don't do crazy shit. Nixon was a dick, but he hit it on the head when he talked about the Silent Majority. The reason gays are overrepresented by loud, very effeminate, fruity guys is by the virtue of the fact that though they are a minority, they are a very noisy minority. And I get so sick of it sometimes, because I want to blame society and straight guys and our parents and our schools. I really fucking do. But how can I blame them when the only people that they know at a glance are gay act like that? How can we expect to be taken seriously when we're represented by the people who throw Pride Parades? And it's even more infuriating because, as I said, these people make up the TINIEST goddamn fraction of the gay population. /rant

And now for the necessary part of the text where I address the self-righteous people who think I'm self loathing. I'm not. Really, I'm not. I have sex with men and I enjoy it. I love being me and I wouldn't be anyone else for all the money in the world. Nobody thinks the way I do and I cherish that. Not self loathing. What I do loath is the fact that I get written off because of the behavior of a tiny little sliver of gay men. And while society shouldn't stereotype based on the actions of a few it's a little different for gay guys because you may not "know" that someone is gay so all the gays who just act like normal goddamn people are overlooked. So nobody, really, is to blame except for those very very few gays who give the rest of us a bad name. And I really wouldn't take much issue with Pride Parades if they didn't almost universally devolve into colorful feathers/sex festivals.


I feel you, bro. I'm straight myself, but I have more gay friends than straight - which I attribute to my very odd female BFF...anyway. Those gay friends are male, and totally nondescript, run-of-the-mill average Joes. If you didn't have a good gaydar, you'd never tell. Besides, they never flaunt it; we hang out, drink together, smoke up together, no biggie. The gay community needs more spokespeople like them, and you, too - not the topless rainbow warriors.

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Postby TaQud » Fri May 24, 2013 2:17 am

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Postby Philitopia » Fri May 24, 2013 6:04 am

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Menassa wrote:The Bible?


According to an anecdote I remember reading, the first Christian sodomy laws were only established after an earthquake in 6th-century Constantinople levelled part of the city and local demagogues blamed the city's apparently sodomy-friendly ways for bringing the wrath of God down upon them. The sitting emperor at the time, Justinian, instituted them after bowing to public pressure to do something about it, lest God went up a notch on Ye Olde Scale of Old Testament-y Punishments.

No idea if it's true or not, but I find it amusing.


I actually read that story, it had nothing to do with homosexuals specifically. Maybe it was written in context. After the whole ordeal with the angels and all the sin god destroyed sodom by sulfur.

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Postby Risottia » Fri May 24, 2013 6:06 am

Condunum wrote:
Immoren wrote:Whimper or bang?

A whimper. A slow, depressing, drab, colorless, fashion blind whimper.


Or a Gnab Gib.
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Postby Philitopia » Fri May 24, 2013 6:15 am

Take bible out of the equation sorry but yeah god says put to death but he also says it for adultery or sleeping with your daughter in law or fathers wife and all that


9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.

Don't say you haven't done it. Wishes harm or something against your parents or parent.

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Postby Delmonte » Fri May 24, 2013 6:41 am

New Rogernomics wrote:What if straight was gay and gay was straight (this has been mirrored from another channel): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzFnV3vwqD0

Basically changes things around, into a what if scenario, as heterosexual people/breeders are shown to be discriminated against like the LGBT community can be today. Can be quite unsettling near the end, so duly warned.

I'm sorry, but it's sickening that they depict suicide. Yes, the whole bullying thing is a huge and horrible issue, but further emotionalizing an already emotionally charged issue isn't going to do any good. It just pushes reasonable, logical discussion further into the future. And depicting blood and violence to guilt people into agreeing with you is fucking shameless. It's as bad as an ad for an animal shelter that depicts animal abuse occurring or an anti-abortion ad that shows half-formed fetuses. It's reactionary bullcrap that will lead to even more reactionary bullcrap. The problem with bullying of gays is not a problem with gays. It's a problem with bullying and how we raise our children.

Our society raises our children in the most homogenous way possible so that, when they encounter a different kid, they behave like fucking chickens that peck chickens with deformities to death. And the way we tried to respond was to teach our children not to acknowledge differences which was totally wrongheaded and really just exacerbated the problem. We tell our little kids that the differences they think they perceive really AREN'T differences at all so that when they're in middle school and high school and it becomes UNDENIABLE that these differences exist they haven't a goddamn clue how to deal with them. We need to teach them to recognize differences and, not "appreciate" them as that implies special treatment; further ostracizing "different" children, but to understand and accept them. Denying that a faucet has a leak will not make your plumbing any better.

Then the children grow up and realize, like their parents do now, that bullying is horrible. And they try to solve it the same way their parents tried.

EDIT: If you think I'm BSing you, ask yourself why every single "diversity" related video ends with "They're really not that different from you and me after all!" which is bullcrap. The message should be more along the lines of "People are different. Deal with it."
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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 24, 2013 7:01 am

Well, the lesbians keep stealing all mah wimminz.

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Postby Thafoo » Fri May 24, 2013 7:03 am

yes, why dislike us? we're fabulous and definitely will not assimilate you into the gay cult nope nope nope

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Postby Czechanada » Fri May 24, 2013 7:08 am

Mostly because of religion.

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Postby Len Hyet » Fri May 24, 2013 7:09 am

Gays because they don't have to deal with women on their period and so we hate them for figuring out the loophole.

*runs the fuck away*
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Postby Vostoka » Fri May 24, 2013 7:11 am

they're a blight on human society.

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Postby Thafoo » Fri May 24, 2013 7:13 am

Vostoka wrote:they're a blight on human society.

if you're serious, then it's ironic that you're saying that

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Postby Czechanada » Fri May 24, 2013 7:13 am

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Vostoka wrote:they're a blight on human society.

if you're serious, then it's ironic that you're saying that


Coincidental, not ironic.
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Postby Delmonte » Fri May 24, 2013 7:14 am

Czechanada wrote:
Thafoo wrote:if you're serious, then it's ironic that you're saying that


Coincidental, not ironic.

Apropos.
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Postby Thafoo » Fri May 24, 2013 7:14 am

Czechanada wrote:
Thafoo wrote:if you're serious, then it's ironic that you're saying that


Coincidental, not ironic.

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