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Postby The Balkin States » Fri May 24, 2013 2:23 pm

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But Paul said that those people chose to have sex with the same sex, despite being straight.

What?



“ 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.(Romans 1:26-27 NIV)[20]
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Postby Grenartia » Fri May 24, 2013 2:24 pm

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On an individual level, most members are great people. Its just the dicks in the upper levels that ruin the fun.

I would send my child to a school where the Children are nice but the principal is a rampant antisemite....


No, its more like the students, teachers, faculty, and administrators are all nice and awesome, but the school board are antisemites.

Which is why you raise awareness of that fact to get the school board fired.

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Nidaria wrote:If this goes through, the Boy Scouts will become a laughingstock.


You mean like the (UK) Scout Association did, what with its total lack of any kind of discrimination on grounds of sexuality? (Or, indeed, on anything else soon - the last little bit is in the process of being removed right now). Oh, wait, no. That didn't happen. At all. Because not everybody lives in your weird fantasy dream-world.


Dream? Most people on here would call it a nightmare. Along with most likely most of the people in real life.
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Postby Salandriagado » Fri May 24, 2013 2:26 pm

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Menassa wrote:I would send my child to a school where the Children are nice but the principal is a rampant antisemite....


No, its more like the students, teachers, faculty, and administrators are all nice and awesome, but the school board are antisemites.

Which is why you raise awareness of that fact to get the school board fired.

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You mean like the (UK) Scout Association did, what with its total lack of any kind of discrimination on grounds of sexuality? (Or, indeed, on anything else soon - the last little bit is in the process of being removed right now). Oh, wait, no. That didn't happen. At all. Because not everybody lives in your weird fantasy dream-world.


Dream? Most people on here would call it a nightmare. Along with most likely most of the people in real life.


I meant "dream" in the sense of "unconnected with reality".
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Postby Grenartia » Fri May 24, 2013 2:27 pm

The Balkin States wrote:
Menassa wrote:What?



“ 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.(Romans 1:26-27 NIV)[20]


Refers to, IIRC, either temple prostitution, sex without love, or some combination thereof.
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Postby Menassa » Fri May 24, 2013 2:31 pm

Grenartia wrote:
The Balkin States wrote:

“ 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.(Romans 1:26-27 NIV)[20]


Refers to, IIRC, either temple prostitution, sex without love, or some combination thereof.

Or... since Paul believes in original sin... and a sin to him is a transgression of The Law.... (which homosexuality of males would be).... but that's just a theory.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri May 24, 2013 2:38 pm

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Refers to, IIRC, either temple prostitution, sex without love, or some combination thereof.

Or... since Paul believes in original sin... and a sin to him is a transgression of The Law.... (which homosexuality of males would be).... but that's just a theory.


IMO, original sin has no basis in logic. Then again, neither does homosexuality being in violation of The Law.

But, you should probably remember that The Law doesn't apply to Christians anyways.
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Postby Menassa » Fri May 24, 2013 2:41 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Menassa wrote:Or... since Paul believes in original sin... and a sin to him is a transgression of The Law.... (which homosexuality of males would be).... but that's just a theory.


IMO, original sin has no basis in logic.

Neither does it in scripture (Ezekiel 18:20).

Grenartia wrote:Then again, neither does homosexuality being in violation of The Law.

Not all Laws are based on human logic.

Grenartia wrote:But, you should probably remember that The Law doesn't apply to Christians anyways.


But to Paul a Jew... it was a violation of The Law and thereby a sin....

Again... it's a theory.
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Postby ALMF » Fri May 24, 2013 3:02 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Menassa wrote:I would send my child to a school where the Children are nice but the principal is a rampant antisemite....

Even if the children never had a single interaction with the principal, and in fact never even met the principal or in fact got within a hundred miles of that principle? And in fact the Principal never doesn't even know your child at all.

Condemning the people in the BSA over the policies would be like going back to the US military during DOTD and bitching at a random Private.

I stopped excluding exmilitary from hiring after the repeal and am now allowing former boyscout (but not scout leaders) after this change.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Fri May 24, 2013 3:07 pm

Menassa wrote:Not all Laws are based on human logic.

What other logic exists to base them on?

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Postby Menassa » Fri May 24, 2013 3:08 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Menassa wrote:Not all Laws are based on human logic.

What other logic exists to base them on?

God's?


Again.... That's Law with a Capital L.
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Postby New Octopucta » Fri May 24, 2013 3:08 pm

ALMF wrote:I stopped excluding exmilitary from hiring after the repeal and am now allowing former boyscout (but not scout leaders) after this change.

Wait. You refused to hire retired members of the military because of DADT? That's terrible, and probably illegal.

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Postby Faolinn » Fri May 24, 2013 3:19 pm

Am I the only one who finds it extraordinarily stupid that they now allow openly gay members but not leaders?Does that seem weird to anyone else?
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Postby Phocidaea » Fri May 24, 2013 3:43 pm

Jaysus! The faggits're invadin' the Boah Scouts as part o' them there Gay Agender.
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Postby New Libertarian States » Fri May 24, 2013 3:46 pm

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Postby The Sector Union » Fri May 24, 2013 3:48 pm

I didn't even know young boys had a sexuality.

When I was 5-10, I did not know what straight or gay was.
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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Fri May 24, 2013 3:55 pm

The Sector Union wrote:I didn't even know young boys had a sexuality.

When I was 5-10, I did not know what straight or gay was.


While there are a number of BSA members aged 5-10 in the Tiger Cubs and Cub Scouting program, Boy Scouts proper are 12-18.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri May 24, 2013 3:56 pm

The Sector Union wrote:I didn't even know young boys had a sexuality.

When I was 5-10, I did not know what straight or gay was.


That's more Cub Scouts, as I recall. Boy Scouts go all the way to 18, if I remember correctly.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 24, 2013 4:00 pm

Grenartia wrote:
The Sector Union wrote:I didn't even know young boys had a sexuality.

When I was 5-10, I did not know what straight or gay was.


That's more Cub Scouts, as I recall. Boy Scouts go all the way to 18, if I remember correctly.

Like people think about sex at that age. :roll:

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Postby Dakran » Fri May 24, 2013 4:10 pm

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That's more Cub Scouts, as I recall. Boy Scouts go all the way to 18, if I remember correctly.

Like people think about sex at that age. :roll:


im 15 and what is sex?
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Postby Grenartia » Fri May 24, 2013 4:50 pm

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Ifreann wrote:Like people think about sex at that age. :roll:


im 15 and what is sex?


Well, you see, when a man loves a woman, or a man, or somebody of a third gender, or two midgets and a donkey...
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Postby Mirkana » Fri May 24, 2013 4:51 pm

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Ifreann wrote:Like people think about sex at that age. :roll:


im 15 and what is sex?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex
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Postby Galloism » Fri May 24, 2013 4:58 pm

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im 15 and what is sex?


Well, you see, when a man loves a woman, or a man, or somebody of a third gender, or two midgets and a donkey...

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