Boy Scouts of America allow gay scouts

[Farnhamia]

Well, the BSA has changed its values to be more inclusive. Organizations change and evolve. I suppose you could advocate for repeal of this change inside the organization. That's your right.

hey! What a great idea! You can help me out if you wish.

I don't think I will, but thanks.

[Spiritwolf]

I don't have to justify my position to you or to anyone else.

Because you can't

Because I don't have to. There's a difference. Reality check........ the World does not revolve around YOU

[Grenartia]

Of course you found that interesting. It's Dobson.
"The Southern Poverty Law Center designated the FRC as a hate group in the Winter 2010 issue of its magazine, Intelligence Report"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_Council

so I have a conservative source? Cool. They used CDC studies and referenced them. I like the FRC.

That is irrelevant. The information presented is clearly being misrepresented. You're not going to convince anybody capable of thinking for themselves with such bullshit.

I like how you just irrationally try to attack people for having different beliefs than you or different sexuality from you, while not even TRYING to explain WHY. Because you can't make a rational argument.

I don't have to justify my position to you or to anyone else.

No, but its considered extremely poor form, on par with refusing to use at least halfway decent grammar and spelling.

Tell me. What exactly is so "wrong" about something that HARMS NOBODY?

I believe the argument boils down to "it's icky." Which is weird, because I think eating chips that fell in a puddle on the sidewalk is icky too, but for some reason I don't have a national political party basing its platform on preventing it.

Indeed, I consider eating (edible, not just hallucinogenic) mushrooms to be disgusting, and yet, you'll never see me condemn somebody for eating them (save for only in jest), nor will you hear me advocate intolerance or any form of mistreatment of people who eat mushrooms.

[Desperate Measures]

You are fired from the problem solving committee. Have your desk empty by the end of the day.

there wasn't a problem! The problem is that bsa is having to comprise their morals because people (many whom were not involved in the scouting program) were protesting. That's the problem.

I understand how you see it that way. Try to make them go backwards, then. I think it would be a debate you will ultimately lose because it's a crappy side of the debate to be on.

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

first off buddy boy, I don't bully. I stand up against what I believe to be wrong just as you are standing up for what you believe to be right. I will never insult a LGBT person for their beliefs but it is completely unnecessary to force a private organization to accept people contradictory to their values, while completely disregarding the negative mental and physical effects of engaging in homosexual activity. Scouts should be taught the dangers of all sexual activity with multiple partners. Especially the effects of having anal sex. Scouts should be taught to have sexual absence until over the age of consent and joined in wedlock.

Well, the BSA has changed its values to be more inclusive. Organizations change and evolve. I suppose you could advocate for repeal of this change inside the organization. That's your right.

It hasn't changed its values at all. It has merely reformed its policies to be more in line with those values, after they were perverted from the straight and narrow thanks to the influence of anti-Scouts like Christo et Ecclesiae.

[Christo et Ecclesiae]

what are you conveying? That morally straight has a secret meaning?

Not secret at all. It's pretty clear: it means trying to be unerring in your adherence to moral principles.

Which includes unconditional acceptance of perfectly legitimate sexual preferences such as homosexuality, heterosexuality, bisexuality, pansexuality, and a lot of things in between.

If you don't accept those, you have erred in you adherence to moral principles, and therefore you are not morally straight.

is this really cleverly disguised sarcasm?

[The Nihilistic view]

there wasn't a problem! The problem is that bsa is having to comprise their morals because people (many whom were not involved in the scouting program) were protesting. That's the problem.

I understand how you see it that way. Try to make them go backwards, then. I think it would be a debate you will ultimately lose because it's a crappy side of the debate to be on.

Is that not the gay side?

[Desperate Measures]

Not secret at all. It's pretty clear: it means trying to be unerring in your adherence to moral principles.

Which includes unconditional acceptance of perfectly legitimate sexual preferences such as homosexuality, heterosexuality, bisexuality, pansexuality, and a lot of things in between.

If you don't accept those, you have erred in you adherence to moral principles, and therefore you are not morally straight.

is this really cleverly disguised sarcasm?

It's Bluth. Nod and give thanks that he took an interest in you.

[Christo et Ecclesiae]

there wasn't a problem! The problem is that bsa is having to comprise their morals because people (many whom were not involved in the scouting program) were protesting. That's the problem.

I understand how you see it that way. Try to make them go backwards, then. I think it would be a debate you will ultimately lose because it's a crappy side of the debate to be on.

yeah I know. Hahaha at least you get my point.

[Christo et Ecclesiae]

I understand how you see it that way. Try to make them go backwards, then. I think it would be a debate you will ultimately lose because it's a crappy side of the debate to be on.

Is that not the gay side?

no! They have more support and a rainbow flag. I wish we had a rainbow flag..

[Christo et Ecclesiae]

hey! What a great idea! You can help me out if you wish.

I don't think I will, but thanks.

no problem. Just thought I'd offer.

[Farnhamia]

Is that not the gay side?

no! They have more support and a rainbow flag. I wish we had a rainbow flag..

Your flag looks like one that the African National Congress rejected. The colors are right but the design is ... not so much.

[Hittanryan]

I understand how you see it that way. Try to make them go backwards, then. I think it would be a debate you will ultimately lose because it's a crappy side of the debate to be on.

Is that not the gay side?

No, it's the side that thinks it has a moral imperative to keep society frozen in the 1930s. That's the crappy side.

[Desperate Measures]

I understand how you see it that way. Try to make them go backwards, then. I think it would be a debate you will ultimately lose because it's a crappy side of the debate to be on.

yeah I know. Hahaha at least you get my point.

Well, it sucks to feel like your view isn't being understood. I get it - doesn't mean I agree with the interpretation.

[Christo et Ecclesiae]

no! They have more support and a rainbow flag. I wish we had a rainbow flag..

Your flag looks like one that the African National Congress rejected. The colors are right but the design is ... not so much.

the CEE flag?

[Grenartia]

You are fired from the problem solving committee. Have your desk empty by the end of the day.

there wasn't a problem! The problem is that bsa is having to comprise their morals because people (many whom were not involved in the scouting program) were protesting. That's the problem.

Except that people who WERE involved in scouting were being thrown out for something that doesn't actually inherently compromise the morals and values of the Scouts, and those whe weren't involved in scouting are only not involved because they're being kept from being involved in it. That's the REAL problems.

[The Nihilistic view]

Is that not the gay side?

No, it's the side that thinks it has a moral imperative to keep society frozen in the 1930s. That's the crappy side.

Crap=slang for poo. Poo comes out of arse, gays fuck arses. They are on the crappy side!

[Farnhamia]

No, it's the side that thinks it has a moral imperative to keep society frozen in the 1930s. That's the crappy side.

Crap=slang for poo. Poo comes out of arse, gays fuck arses. They are on the crappy side!

When a joke requires that much explanation it's not really funny.

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

yeah I know. Hahaha at least you get my point.

Well, it sucks to feel like your view isn't being understood. I get it - doesn't mean I agree with the interpretation.

Oh, I understand it too.

It's just that it lacks any intellectual validity whatsoever, and is absolutely morally bankrupt.

As a Christian, I cannot embrace an anti-Christian position like CEE's that is completely incompatible with the teachings of the Christ in every way.

I hope CEE becomes a Christian someday, so he can see the error of his ways and reform.

[The Keystone Federation]

Guess so

What happened to preaching to me for the last few pages that all opinions are equally valid?

A) I'm tired
B) There's more to life than just convincing others they're wrong.

[Farnhamia]

Your flag looks like one that the African National Congress rejected. The colors are right but the design is ... not so much.

the CEE flag?

Yes.

[Desperate Measures]

Crap=slang for poo. Poo comes out of arse, gays fuck arses. They are on the crappy side!

When a joke requires that much explanation it's not really funny.

I read a book by Freud on exactly that. It was the only book I ever read by him. I can tell you this. Freud cannot tell a joke.

[Farnhamia]

When a joke requires that much explanation it's not really funny.

I read a book by Freud on exactly that. It was the only book I ever read by him. I can tell you this. Freud cannot tell a joke.

A classic case of over-analysis, ja?

[Desperate Measures]

I read a book by Freud on exactly that. It was the only book I ever read by him. I can tell you this. Freud cannot tell a joke.

A classic case of over-analysis, ja?

I can't remember the exact jokes he used as examples but it was something like: "A man goes to the grocery store to buy some butter for his wife and he forgets it and she hits him in the head with her rolling pin. And now, we will see how when we analyze and break down this humorous joke, it becomes increasingly unfunny."

[The Nihilistic view]

Crap=slang for poo. Poo comes out of arse, gays fuck arses. They are on the crappy side!

When a joke requires that much explanation it's not really funny.

Or the person needing it explained is a total Muppet.