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Creationism vs. Evolution

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Postby Anachronous Rex » Tue May 21, 2013 12:28 am

Need a name wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:You haven't demonstrated the underlined, so it is no more relevant then my saying, "Quetzalcoatl will drink your blood and eat your soul."

The last bit is a false dichotomy.


no, you just realized how dumb unstable nothing is.

No, it's a false dichotomy. I bet you don't even know what that means.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue May 21, 2013 12:29 am

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Need a name wrote:no, you just realized how dumb unstable nothing is.

No, it's a false dichotomy. I bet you don't even know what that means.

Dude, he's apparently 13, that's probably too complicated of a word for him. Dichotomy looks like an SAT word.
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Postby Enadail » Tue May 21, 2013 12:29 am

Need a name wrote:God is good and cares for us, we were created in his image. yes and the thing called evolution a theory. unstable nothing or God?


And yet, there is no evidence for God, at all.

And you have no idea what a theory is, do you?

Frankly, I find the idea of a God to be far more preposterous then the idea of unstable nothingness. At least I can test unstable nothingness. God is so contradictory, so patchwork, its an insane idea.

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Postby Need a Name » Tue May 21, 2013 12:29 am

Hodori wrote:
Need a name wrote:

and unstable nothing is completely practical :roll:
God explains everything


"Why is the sky blue?"
God.

"Why are cars fast?"
God.

"Why does Timmy have cancer?"
God.

Yep. :roll:


God made air, and well air happens to be blue, God made physics and us, so we could make cars, and we sinned so God punished us by disease ajd stuff, that is why timmy has cancer... poor timmy
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Postby Need a Name » Tue May 21, 2013 12:30 am

Need a name wrote:
Hodori wrote:
"Why is the sky blue?"
God.

"Why are cars fast?"
God.

"Why does Timmy have cancer?"
God.

Yep. :roll:


God made air, and well air happens to be blue, God made physics and us, so we could make cars, and we sinned so God punished us by disease and stuff, that is why timmy has cancer... poor timmy
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Tue May 21, 2013 12:30 am

Need a name wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:God explains everything by explaining nothing. It is the least practical explanation imaginable.



and unstable nothing is completely practical :roll:
God explains everything

Well it's demonstrably true, and could potentially provide an infinite energy source. So, yeah, it is.

And, as I said, god explains everything by explaining nothing. You don't actually gain any new insight when you say "god did it." You have the same amount of information you had when you started, you're just more content with your ignorance.
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Postby Enadail » Tue May 21, 2013 12:30 am

Need a name wrote:
Caecuser wrote:
You could make up any fantasy creature you want in order to explain away the things you can't understand but without evidence you're just daydreaming.


i will give you guys evidence when it is not 3:30 am, i need to call my teacher. there were like 10 of you, so it's fair


It was about 10 when you started, I think, and you've had no evidence so far. Hell, you didn't even know what you were saying half the time.

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Postby Need a Name » Tue May 21, 2013 12:31 am

Enadail wrote:
Need a name wrote:God is good and cares for us, we were created in his image. yes and the thing called evolution a theory. unstable nothing or God?


And yet, there is no evidence for God, at all.

And you have no idea what a theory is, do you?

Frankly, I find the idea of a God to be far more preposterous then the idea of unstable nothingness. At least I can test unstable nothingness. God is so contradictory, so patchwork, its an insane idea.


ok, i am not a college student mastering in attempting to school a 13 year-old, nothing is no thing, your definition of nothing is flawed. don't you get that?
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Tue May 21, 2013 12:32 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:No, it's a false dichotomy. I bet you don't even know what that means.

Dude, he's apparently 13, that's probably too complicated of a word for him. Dichotomy looks like an SAT word.

Is he now?

Well, that's slightly less depressing. I believed stupid things at 13.
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Postby Enadail » Tue May 21, 2013 12:32 am

Need a name wrote:
Need a name wrote:
God made air, and well air happens to be blue, God made physics and us, so we could make cars, and we sinned so God punished us by disease and stuff, that is why timmy has cancer... poor timmy


First, air is not blue. Seriously, I know I learned that by the time I was 13.

Second, God, who is all knowing, punished humans for sin... even though he knew we'd sin. So basically, God punished us because he wanted to? He's a dick.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue May 21, 2013 12:32 am

Need a name wrote:God made air, and well air happens to be blue, God made physics and us, so we could make cars, and we sinned so God punished us by disease ajd stuff, that is why timmy has cancer... poor timmy
Need a name wrote:God made air, and well air happens to be blue,
Need a name wrote:air happens to be blue,

My god, do they not teach you about light scattering anymore?! Look at an empty water bottle, does that even LOOK blue?!
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Postby Need a Name » Tue May 21, 2013 12:32 am

Enadail wrote:
Need a name wrote:
i will give you guys evidence when it is not 3:30 am, i need to call my teacher. there were like 10 of you, so it's fair


It was about 10 when you started, I think, and you've had no evidence so far. Hell, you didn't even know what you were saying half the time.


i have evidence but you guys discard it,i at least look at yours
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Postby Need a Name » Tue May 21, 2013 12:33 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Need a name wrote:God made air, and well air happens to be blue, God made physics and us, so we could make cars, and we sinned so God punished us by disease ajd stuff, that is why timmy has cancer... poor timmy
Need a name wrote:God made air, and well air happens to be blue,
Need a name wrote:air happens to be blue,

My god, do they not teach you about light scattering anymore?! Look at an empty water bottle, does that even LOOK blue?!


enough air will look blue.
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Postby Enadail » Tue May 21, 2013 12:33 am

Need a name wrote:
Enadail wrote:
And yet, there is no evidence for God, at all.

And you have no idea what a theory is, do you?

Frankly, I find the idea of a God to be far more preposterous then the idea of unstable nothingness. At least I can test unstable nothingness. God is so contradictory, so patchwork, its an insane idea.


ok, i am not a college student mastering in attempting to school a 13 year-old, nothing is no thing, your definition of nothing is flawed. don't you get that?


A 13 year old with the grammar of a 5 year old... its sad man, it is.

And how is my definition of nothing flawed? Do you know my definition of nothing is? Do you know the physics involved in defining nothing? I don't, and I've studied it.

And again, please define what a scientific theory is.

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Postby Caecuser » Tue May 21, 2013 12:34 am

Need a name wrote:
Enadail wrote:
It was about 10 when you started, I think, and you've had no evidence so far. Hell, you didn't even know what you were saying half the time.


i have evidence but you guys discard it,i at least look at yours


We looked at your evidence and refuted it.

Anything else?

Also - if you did look at our evidence then you'd have to accept Evolution, you can't just refuse to believe it.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue May 21, 2013 12:34 am

Enadail wrote:
Need a name wrote:God made air, and well air happens to be blue, God made physics and us, so we could make cars, and we sinned so God punished us by disease and stuff, that is why timmy has cancer... poor timmy

First, air is not blue. Seriously, I know I learned that by the time I was 13.

Second, God, who is all knowing, punished humans for sin... even though he knew we'd sin. So basically, God punished us because he wanted to? He's a dick.

Dude, even a three year old knows that air is not blue, all he needs to do is look at an empty clear plastic water bottle.

And God is a dick. He's an abusive asshole. Why the hell would I want to worship an abusive asshole?
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Postby Need a Name » Tue May 21, 2013 12:34 am

Enadail wrote:
Need a name wrote:


First, air is not blue. Seriously, I know I learned that by the time I was 13.

Second, God, who is all knowing, punished humans for sin... even though he knew we'd sin. So basically, God punished us because he wanted to? He's a dick.


No, he may have known but he didn't decide us for us to sin, we turned against God so we are the a$$holes
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Postby Enadail » Tue May 21, 2013 12:34 am

Need a name wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:My god, do they not teach you about light scattering anymore?! Look at an empty water bottle, does that even LOOK blue?!


enough air will look blue.


No. No it doesn't. Damnit, seriously? The sky looking blue has nothing to do with the quantity of air, it has to do with the refraction of light.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue May 21, 2013 12:35 am

Need a name wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:My god, do they not teach you about light scattering anymore?! Look at an empty water bottle, does that even LOOK blue?!

enough air will look blue.

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Postby Enadail » Tue May 21, 2013 12:35 am

Need a name wrote:
Enadail wrote:
First, air is not blue. Seriously, I know I learned that by the time I was 13.

Second, God, who is all knowing, punished humans for sin... even though he knew we'd sin. So basically, God punished us because he wanted to? He's a dick.


No, he may have known but he didn't decide us for us to sin, we turned against God so we are the a$$holes


So he knew we'd sin. But somehow we choose, even though he knew it would happen, which means it was preordained, and in the end, he chose to be an ass anyway. He could have prevented it, or knowing it was coming, not punished, but did anyway.

That's like me knowing a train is going to derail tomorrow, and doing nothing about it. I'd be an asshole if I did that.
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Postby Need a Name » Tue May 21, 2013 12:35 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Enadail wrote:First, air is not blue. Seriously, I know I learned that by the time I was 13.

Second, God, who is all knowing, punished humans for sin... even though he knew we'd sin. So basically, God punished us because he wanted to? He's a dick.

Dude, even a three year old knows that air is not blue, all he needs to do is look at an empty clear plastic water bottle.

And God is a dick. He's an abusive asshole. Why the hell would I want to worship an abusive asshole?
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he made one rule and we humans broke it, one rule, he is wise. wiser than you
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Postby Kilobugya » Tue May 21, 2013 12:35 am

Yeah, and what about teaching the phlogiston or the epicycles theory in schools ?

Evolution is a fact, like gravity or chemistry. The theory of evolution is backed by as much evidence as the gravity theory or the atomic theory are. Hell, we can **read DNA**. It's over. Teaching creationism in school would be like teaching phlogiston theory or epicycles in schools. It can be done in an history or epistemology class, to show how people were wrong in the past. That's about it.
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Postby Need a Name » Tue May 21, 2013 12:36 am

Enadail wrote:
Need a name wrote:
No, he may have known but he didn't decide us for us to sin, we turned against God so we are the a$$holes


So you're saying God isn't all knowing, got it.


i didn't say that, he did know. but he didn't decide for us, he gave us free will!
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Tue May 21, 2013 12:36 am

There is a certain point where you just have to throw your hands up in the air and say, "I am not dumb enough to have an argument with this person."

I am at that point.
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Postby Need a Name » Tue May 21, 2013 12:37 am

Kilobugya wrote:Yeah, and what about teaching the phlogiston or the epicycles theory in schools ?

Evolution is a fact, like gravity or chemistry. The theory of evolution is backed by as much evidence as the gravity theory or the atomic theory are. Hell, we can **read DNA**. It's over. Teaching creationism in school would be like teaching phlogiston theory or epicycles in schools. It can be done in an history or epistemology class, to show how people were wrong in the past. That's about it.


ok where did the unstable nothing come from, everything has a start, isn't that what you guys said?
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