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Creationism vs. Evolution

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did i get you guys? or are you googling?
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Tue May 21, 2013 12:17 am

Need a name wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:This is the difference between a view that can improve, and a view that is doomed to stay exactly as wrong as it ever was.

Which, for creationism, is pretty damn wrong.


why is it wrong? but answer the previous question first

Very well:
why does everything have to be about science, why is God creating the earth harder to believe than a bigbang from unstable nothing?

Because there is a reason for believing that science is true. There is no reason at all to believe in any form of god, and even if there was there would be no reason to suppose that it was any particular god, that there was only one of them, that it created anything, that it cares or has any interest in our lives, that it is benevolent if it does, that its existence implies an afterlife, or reward or punishment for any action, or that it would behave in such as way as to be completely incompatible with what natural science says is true (which is what Creationism demands that it does)

Creationism is wrong for a thousand thousand reasons, not the least of which being, the earth is demonstrably older then they all say it is.
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Postby Enadail » Tue May 21, 2013 12:18 am

Need a name wrote:the cambrian explosion against, very few if any in between fossils. againts


How is the Cambrian explosion against evolution?

And few if any transitional fossils? We have tons of them.

Need a name wrote:bull, unstable nothing doesn't count as facts


So again, you're an expert in theoretical physics? Able to disprove the notion with a wave of your hand?

Need a name wrote:Bull again, if you read the bible it is good at knowing what is going to happen


I've read the Bible. And no, the Bible has a shitty track record of predicting the future. Hell, it had a shitty record of the past.

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Postby Anachronous Rex » Tue May 21, 2013 12:19 am

Need a name wrote:did i get you guys? or are you googling?

It is easier to say something untrue then it is to prove it is untrue. Be patient, you will get what is coming to you.
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Postby Sassinia » Tue May 21, 2013 12:19 am

Evolution = 1
Creationism = 0

'Nuff said.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue May 21, 2013 12:19 am

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Need a name wrote:did i get you guys? or are you googling?

It is easier to say something untrue then it is to prove it is untrue. Be patient, you will get what is coming to you.

Hell, I keep reposting Div's thing with all the links and he ignores that every single damn time.
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Postby Need a Name » Tue May 21, 2013 12:21 am

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Need a name wrote:
why is it wrong? but answer the previous question first

Very well:
why does everything have to be about science, why is God creating the earth harder to believe than a bigbang from unstable nothing?

Because there is a reason for believing that science is true. There is no reason at all to believe in any form of god, and even if there was there would be no reason to suppose that it was any particular god, that there was only one of them, that it created anything, that it cares or has any interest in our lives, that it is benevolent if it does, that its existence implies an afterlife, or reward or punishment for any action, or that it would behave in such as way as to be completely incompatible with what natural science says is true (which is what Creationism demands that it does)

Creationism is wrong for a thousand thousand reasons, not the least of which being, the earth is demonstrably older then they all say it is.


God is good and cares for us, we were created in his image. yes and the thing called evolution a theory. unstable nothing or God?
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Tue May 21, 2013 12:21 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:It is easier to say something untrue then it is to prove it is untrue. Be patient, you will get what is coming to you.

Hell, I keep reposting Div's thing with all the links and he ignores that every single damn time.

Well then he has no defense.
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Postby Need a Name » Tue May 21, 2013 12:22 am

Sassinia wrote:Evolution = 1
Creationism = 0

'Nuff said.


i gave you guys two against evolution

so creation 0
evolution -1

nuff said
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue May 21, 2013 12:22 am

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Hell, I keep reposting Div's thing with all the links and he ignores that every single damn time.

Well then he has no defense.

Exactly.
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Postby Need a Name » Tue May 21, 2013 12:23 am

how is unstable nothing more practical than God? seriously unstable NOTHING
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Postby Hodori » Tue May 21, 2013 12:23 am

Need a name wrote:yes and the thing called evolution a theory


One of the, if not the absolute, best-supported ones.
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Need a name wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Very well:

Because there is a reason for believing that science is true. There is no reason at all to believe in any form of god, and even if there was there would be no reason to suppose that it was any particular god, that there was only one of them, that it created anything, that it cares or has any interest in our lives, that it is benevolent if it does, that its existence implies an afterlife, or reward or punishment for any action, or that it would behave in such as way as to be completely incompatible with what natural science says is true (which is what Creationism demands that it does)

Creationism is wrong for a thousand thousand reasons, not the least of which being, the earth is demonstrably older then they all say it is.


God is good and cares for us, we were created in his image. yes and the thing called evolution a theory. unstable nothing or God?

You haven't demonstrated the underlined, so it is no more relevant then my saying, "Quetzalcoatl will drink your blood and eat your soul."

The last bit is a false dichotomy.
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Postby Need a Name » Tue May 21, 2013 12:24 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Well then he has no defense.

Exactly.


i don't ignore them i look them through
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue May 21, 2013 12:24 am

Need a name wrote:
Sassinia wrote:Evolution = 1
Creationism = 0

'Nuff said.

i gave you guys two against evolution

so creation 0
evolution -1

If we're playing the zero-sum game, then here:
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Mavorpen wrote:Sure.

Speaking of which, I've been meaning to sig that or put it in my factbook for future reference.

Right. Tallyho.

http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
http://www.txtwriter.com/backgrounders/ ... tents.html
http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolu ... /live.html
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... 0/lines_01
http://www.nature.com/nature/newspdf/evolutiongems.pdf
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... _tiktaalik
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... /devitt_01
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_23
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_16
http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidenc ... lution.htm
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/fitch/cours ... dence.html
http://www.imls.uzh.ch/research/noll/pu ... 73_785.pdf
http://www.cell.com/developmental-cell/ ... 0703003253
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/scien ... .html?_r=1
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/91/3/221
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 1006000526
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/310/5746/287
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome_2.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0
http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/molb.ws.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 331a0.html
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 050603.php
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071801.php
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20060327/evo.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://scienceray.com/biology/zoology/a ... maritimus/
http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~pgore/geology/ ... vation.pdf
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc ... l#atavisms

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Need a name wrote:how is unstable nothing more practical than God? seriously unstable NOTHING

God explains everything by explaining nothing. It is the least practical explanation imaginable.
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Postby Need a Name » Tue May 21, 2013 12:24 am

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Need a name wrote:
God is good and cares for us, we were created in his image. yes and the thing called evolution a theory. unstable nothing or God?

You haven't demonstrated the underlined, so it is no more relevant then my saying, "Quetzalcoatl will drink your blood and eat your soul."

The last bit is a false dichotomy.


no, you just realized how dumb unstable nothing is.
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Postby Hodori » Tue May 21, 2013 12:25 am

Need a name wrote:how is unstable nothing more practical than God? seriously unstable NOTHING


We can detect the result of the inherent instability of a total vacuum and quantum fluctuations.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:
Need a name wrote:how is unstable nothing more practical than God? seriously unstable NOTHING

God explains everything by explaining nothing. It is the least practical explanation imaginable.



and unstable nothing is completely practical :roll:
God explains everything
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue May 21, 2013 12:26 am

Need a name wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Exactly.

i don't ignore them i look them through

No you don't. Otherwise you'd know what evolution is. I think you have answersingenesis.com open and you're just quoting from that.
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Postby Caecuser » Tue May 21, 2013 12:27 am

Need a name wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:God explains everything by explaining nothing. It is the least practical explanation imaginable.



and unstable nothing is completely practical :roll:
God explains everything


You could make up any fantasy creature you want in order to explain away the things you can't understand but without evidence you're just daydreaming.

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Hodori wrote:
Need a name wrote:how is unstable nothing more practical than God? seriously unstable NOTHING


We can detect the result of the inherent instability of a total vacuum and quantum fluctuations.


then your definition of nothing is flawed. nothing is no thing, nothing can't do anything. we can't picture nothing because there are things everywhere!
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Postby Hodori » Tue May 21, 2013 12:27 am

Need a name wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:God explains everything by explaining nothing. It is the least practical explanation imaginable.



and unstable nothing is completely practical :roll:
God explains everything


"Why is the sky blue?"
God.

"Why are cars fast?"
God.

"Why does Timmy have cancer?"
God.

Yep. :roll:
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Postby Need a Name » Tue May 21, 2013 12:28 am

Caecuser wrote:
Need a name wrote:

and unstable nothing is completely practical :roll:
God explains everything


You could make up any fantasy creature you want in order to explain away the things you can't understand but without evidence you're just daydreaming.


i will give you guys evidence when it is not 3:30 am, i need to call my teacher. there were like 10 of you, so it's fair
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