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Creationism vs. Evolution

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Postby Furious Grandmothers » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:56 am

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Oh? Have you? Because nothing you've said there is actually true:

Science is not fact? I assume you mean nothing in science is ever fact... even though they are. The earth is an oblong sphereoid: fact. The average human has 5 fingers: fact. Carbon has 6 electrons: fact. Clearly, you don't even know what the word fact means.

Science is not assumptions based on observations: its conclusions drawn from empirical evidence, which need not be observed.

I was wrong on one thing: you're right that theory is not fact. A theory is MUCH better. A scientific theory is not a "well supported hypothesis". A theory is an explanation based on facts and evidence, and is the highest honor achievable by an idea in science. We have gravitational THEORY, atomic THEORY, cell THEORY. Are you saying gravity, atoms, and cells don't exist?
Seriously... you are woefully uneducated in science and are a prime example of why this debate is necessary.
:rofl: Go read a science textbook, then reread your post, and you will see how ridiculous that statement of yours is. Oh, btw, anyone who can coun could tell you that humans have five fingers, you don't need a scientist to tell you that.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:56 am

The Perseus Arm wrote:Note the Mechanized in mine.


Do you think you could stay to the subject in hand rather than spamming bollocks about bears please?
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:59 am

The Perseus Arm wrote:This subject is now closed due to stupidity from both sides and an invasion by the Perseusian Military. Please move on to other things. Info: my quote was from Wikipedia and please note that I am sick of you people nitpicking my responses and saying that your nitpicks invalidate them.

Stop spamming this thread with your In-Character remarks. *** Warned for spamming ***

You don't have the right, the power, or the ability to stop other people from commenting, even if they happen to trash your arguments in the process. Knock off the spam about the thread being closed or you'll work your way into a forumban.

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Postby Enadail » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:59 am

Furious Grandmothers wrote:
The Perseus Arm wrote: :rofl: Go read a science textbook, then reread your post, and you will see how ridiculous that statement of yours is. Oh, btw, anyone who can coun could tell you that humans have five fingers, you don't need a scientist to tell you that.
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Not only that, all you have to do is google "cell theory" or "gravitational theory" to see what they are. And that he's wrong. In fact, I have a biology textbook next to me right now that talks about cell theory. So I don't see anything ridiculous about my statement at all.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:35 am

*sees this in "view your posts" with unread posts*
*opens thread*
*reads unread posts in thread*
*facepalms*

Seriously? Goddamnit, this is why we need better science education, so that we don't get people saying bullshit like "science doesn't deal with facts" and "the scientific method is biased!!!11!".
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:38 am

Individuality-ness wrote:*sees this in "view your posts" with unread posts*
*opens thread*
*reads unread posts in thread*
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Seriously? Goddamnit, this is why we need better science education, so that we don't get people saying bullshit like "science doesn't deal with facts" and "the scientific method is biased!!!11!".

It is biased if it doesn't jibe with your world view.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:41 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:*sees this in "view your posts" with unread posts*
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Seriously? Goddamnit, this is why we need better science education, so that we don't get people saying bullshit like "science doesn't deal with facts" and "the scientific method is biased!!!11!".

It is biased if it doesn't jibe with your world view.

Reminds me of Faux News.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:56 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:It is biased if it doesn't jibe with your world view.

Reminds me of Faux News.


It is Faux News.
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:13 am

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Oh for fucks Harvard!

http://ideas.time.com/2013/05/31/viewpo ... n-science/


I've been meaning to ask... Do honorary degrees qualify you for anything or is just ceremonial?

I'd be inflamed if that degree means she could practice as a judge or something.

Then, TruTV can finally run their 125th "Judge X" show, Judge Winfrey.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:14 am

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Oh for fucks Harvard!

http://ideas.time.com/2013/05/31/viewpo ... n-science/

*reads article* Oh for fucks sake, goddamn it. It would have been worse had they given her a honorary science degree but damn it Harvard, what the actual flying fuck?
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:15 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Oh for fucks Harvard!

http://ideas.time.com/2013/05/31/viewpo ... n-science/


I've been meaning to ask... Do honorary degrees qualify you for anything or is just ceremonial?

I'd be inflamed if that degree means she could practice as a judge or something.

Then, TruTV can finally run their 125th "Judge X" show, Judge Winfrey.


Strictly ceremonial...although you might have some rights with regards to the awarding University...you know...access to the loos in the event of an emergency or something...
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Postby Vazdania » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:16 am

Josh Beaty wrote:Evolution has gained wide support in the past century and has creeped its way into the school system in such a way that Creationism is frowned upon and not taught in school anymore. In a society where everyone wants scientific proof before students learn the material, topics such as the 'Big Bang Theory' receive outright support without complete scientific proof. There just seems to be a bias towards Creationism because its roots lay in religion. Can you share your viewpoint for or against Creationism and/or Evolution?

I suppose Evolution should be taught in public schools, if sex can be taught there...Private schools should be able to teach creationism if they so choose.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:17 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Oh for fucks Harvard!

http://ideas.time.com/2013/05/31/viewpo ... n-science/

*reads article* Oh for fucks sake, goddamn it. It would have been worse had they given her a honorary science degree but damn it Harvard, what the actual flying fuck?


yeah I know...I'm so irritated I forgot the sake...

had they given her a science degree I think I'd have actually hurled my computer through the window.
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Postby Caecuser » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:18 am

Vazdania wrote:
Josh Beaty wrote:Evolution has gained wide support in the past century and has creeped its way into the school system in such a way that Creationism is frowned upon and not taught in school anymore. In a society where everyone wants scientific proof before students learn the material, topics such as the 'Big Bang Theory' receive outright support without complete scientific proof. There just seems to be a bias towards Creationism because its roots lay in religion. Can you share your viewpoint for or against Creationism and/or Evolution?

I suppose Evolution should be taught in public schools, if sex can be taught there...Private schools should be able to teach creationism if they so choose.


Why allow them to spread misinformation? We should not allow religious indoctrination.

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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:20 am

Vazdania wrote:
Josh Beaty wrote:Evolution has gained wide support in the past century and has creeped its way into the school system in such a way that Creationism is frowned upon and not taught in school anymore. In a society where everyone wants scientific proof before students learn the material, topics such as the 'Big Bang Theory' receive outright support without complete scientific proof. There just seems to be a bias towards Creationism because its roots lay in religion. Can you share your viewpoint for or against Creationism and/or Evolution?

I suppose Evolution should be taught in public schools, if sex can be taught there...Private schools should be able to teach creationism if they so choose.


And I think private schools should be strictly regulated by the government.

But whatever.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:21 am

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:*reads article* Oh for fucks sake, goddamn it. It would have been worse had they given her a honorary science degree but damn it Harvard, what the actual flying fuck?

yeah I know...I'm so irritated I forgot the sake...

had they given her a science degree I think I'd have actually hurled my computer through the window.

That would probably be the least thing you could do.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:23 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:yeah I know...I'm so irritated I forgot the sake...

had they given her a science degree I think I'd have actually hurled my computer through the window.

That would probably be the least thing you could do.
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True....but Harvard is a bit difficult to get to...what with the pond and everything.

Actually my ire is still rising. >:(
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Postby Chinese Regions » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:28 am

Vazdania wrote:
Josh Beaty wrote:Evolution has gained wide support in the past century and has creeped its way into the school system in such a way that Creationism is frowned upon and not taught in school anymore. In a society where everyone wants scientific proof before students learn the material, topics such as the 'Big Bang Theory' receive outright support without complete scientific proof. There just seems to be a bias towards Creationism because its roots lay in religion. Can you share your viewpoint for or against Creationism and/or Evolution?

I suppose Evolution should be taught in public schools, if sex can be taught there...Private schools should be able to teach creationism if they so choose.

In Religious Studies that is.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:32 am

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:That would probably be the least thing you could do.

True....but Harvard is a bit difficult to get to...what with the pond and everything.

Actually my ire is still rising. >:(

Oprah has so much power too. She could help our cause of pro-science, but instead she's advocating anti-science positions like (to talk about the most famous example) "vaccines give you autism". Damn it. Harvard, you're supposed to be better than that.

And why a honorary law degree? Has she done anything worthy of it?
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Postby Great Nepal » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:35 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:True....but Harvard is a bit difficult to get to...what with the pond and everything.

Actually my ire is still rising. >:(

Oprah has so much power too. She could help our cause of pro-science, but instead she's advocating anti-science positions like (to talk about the most famous example) "vaccines give you autism". Damn it. Harvard, you're supposed to be better than that.

And why a honorary law degree? Has she done anything worthy of it?

Maybe (and this is just a wild guess), she provided generousness bribe donation to buy the degree support education and promotion of talent?
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:36 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:True....but Harvard is a bit difficult to get to...what with the pond and everything.

Actually my ire is still rising. >:(

Oprah has so much power too. She could help our cause of pro-science, but instead she's advocating anti-science positions like (to talk about the most famous example) "vaccines give you autism". Damn it. Harvard, you're supposed to be better than that.

And why a honorary law degree? Has she done anything worthy of it?


That is the tragedy...that she does have a lot of power but caters to the irrational. But for Harvard, America's preeminent university, to give this honour to her is pretty despicable. It is nothing to do with learning but everything to do with branding.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:40 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Oprah has so much power too. She could help our cause of pro-science, but instead she's advocating anti-science positions like (to talk about the most famous example) "vaccines give you autism". Damn it. Harvard, you're supposed to be better than that.

And why a honorary law degree? Has she done anything worthy of it?

Maybe (and this is just a wild guess), she provided generousness bribe donation to buy the degree support education and promotion of talent?


No. The question of money in this case is not at issue. The bestowing of honourary degrees is usually a recognition of a public figure and what they have achieved.

I'm not really bothered about the degree...its the commencement speech role she been given that has really irked me.
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