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Zweite Alaje
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sun May 19, 2013 9:51 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:
No, I didn't have sex before 18. I'm not a whore like most people are these days.

If you talk like that to people you know IRL, I'm surprised you haven't had your jaw broken yet.


IRL I'm not bound by NS type "flaming" rules. If anything I'm even more of an asshole IRL.
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Yankee Empire
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Postby Yankee Empire » Sun May 19, 2013 9:51 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Bralia wrote:Do you have any idea how many people you called whores right here on NSG? :blink:

And? Do you think I give two fucks?

Resora wrote:Perhaps not, but attitudes like these

certainly support the "insufferable boring person" hypothesis.

If one had to fuck people to be interesting or fun, they must be severely lacking in personality and self esteem.



:lol: :clap:

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The New Earth Coalition
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Postby The New Earth Coalition » Sun May 19, 2013 9:51 pm

Technically it becomes illegal when she turned 18. An adult (18+) and a minor (17-) engaging in intimate/sexual activities has always been illegal.
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Wisconsin9
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun May 19, 2013 9:53 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:If you talk like that to people you know IRL, I'm surprised you haven't had your jaw broken yet.


IRL I'm not bound by NS type "flaming" rules. If anything I'm even more of an asshole IRL.

How in God's name are you not dead?
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Cosara
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Postby Cosara » Sun May 19, 2013 9:53 pm

The New Earth Coalition wrote:Technically it becomes illegal when she turned 18. An adult (18+) and a minor (17-) engaging in intimate/sexual activities has always been illegal.

This is my point, but they just want an exception because she's "not guilty enough"
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Libertarian California
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Postby Libertarian California » Sun May 19, 2013 9:53 pm

Pope Joan wrote:It reminds me of the two teens making out in Wisconsin, and the parents turned in each others' kids for statutory rape because they were both under age and consent did not matter under state law, and the DA went ahead and prosecuted them!

These sex offender laws need serious revision.

We get all up in arms because of poor little victims like Amber, and then pass harsh laws that punish all kinds of innocent people.


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Cosara
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Postby Cosara » Sun May 19, 2013 9:54 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:
IRL I'm not bound by NS type "flaming" rules. If anything I'm even more of an asshole IRL.

How in God's name are you not dead?

Ask Axl Rose. He's gotten away with worse things than calling people whores.
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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Sun May 19, 2013 9:55 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:
IRL I'm not bound by NS type "flaming" rules. If anything I'm even more of an asshole IRL.

How in God's name are you not dead?

Be nice. Be nice. Be nice.

That's it. I'm writing a new version of Kafka's In The Penal Colony, except that the machine will try to write "be nice" into the warden's flesh.

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Postby Bralia » Sun May 19, 2013 9:55 pm

Cosara wrote:
The New Earth Coalition wrote:Technically it becomes illegal when she turned 18. An adult (18+) and a minor (17-) engaging in intimate/sexual activities has always been illegal.

This is my point, but they just want an exception because she's "not guilty enough"

Do you even listen to our arguments? :eyebrow:
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Zweite Alaje
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sun May 19, 2013 9:55 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:
IRL I'm not bound by NS type "flaming" rules. If anything I'm even more of an asshole IRL.

How in God's name are you not dead?


1.) People are usually afraid of me. I'm often told I'm scary.
2.) I can fight.
3.) I have a lot of good friends that can fight.
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Postby ALMF » Sun May 19, 2013 9:56 pm

Harkonna wrote:Would there even be an argument if it was an 18 year old boy committing statutory rape against a 15 year old girl?

It wold be less blindingly obvious becous of the gender biases in our society but Id like to think I wold.
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Postby Cosara » Sun May 19, 2013 9:56 pm

Bralia wrote:
Cosara wrote:This is my point, but they just want an exception because she's "not guilty enough"

Do you even listen to our arguments? :eyebrow:

Yes. That's basically your argument.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sun May 19, 2013 9:58 pm

Yankee Empire wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:And? Do you think I give two fucks?


If one had to fuck people to be interesting or fun, they must be severely lacking in personality and self esteem.



:lol: :clap:

Don't ever change Alaje.


I don't plan on it, assholeness forever, fuck sugarcoating.
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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Sun May 19, 2013 9:59 pm

Cosara wrote:
Bralia wrote:Do you even listen to our arguments? :eyebrow:

Yes. That's basically your argument.

They're challenging the legitimacy of the laws in question, Cos.

Zweite Alaje wrote:I don't plan on it, assholeness forever, fuck sugarcoating.

I prefer being kind with a pinch of snarkiness.
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Bralia
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Postby Bralia » Sun May 19, 2013 9:59 pm

Cosara wrote:
Bralia wrote:Do you even listen to our arguments? :eyebrow:

Yes. That's basically your argument.

So in other words, no? I thank you for your honesty. If you don't understand your opponent's arguments how can you possibly make an educated argument for your own case?
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Yankee Empire
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Postby Yankee Empire » Sun May 19, 2013 10:01 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:
IRL I'm not bound by NS type "flaming" rules. If anything I'm even more of an asshole IRL.

How in God's name are you not dead?

Whores are lovers not fighters?
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Libertarian California
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Postby Libertarian California » Sun May 19, 2013 10:01 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:How in God's name are you not dead?


1.) People are usually afraid of me. I'm often told I'm scary.
2.) I can fight.
3.) I have a lot of good friends that can fight.


You know me as another identity...and through that identity, I'd say we are good friends :)
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Cosara
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Postby Cosara » Sun May 19, 2013 10:01 pm

Evraim wrote:
Cosara wrote:Yes. That's basically your argument.

They're challenging the legitimacy of the laws in question, Cos.

Fuck that shit. My proposal:

Age of Consent: 18

Anyone having sex below that age shall be charged with statutory rape. That's the law here in Texas.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun May 19, 2013 10:01 pm

Yankee Empire wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:How in God's name are you not dead?

Whores are lovers not fighters?

Well, that explains why I have yet to get laid.
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The New Earth Coalition
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Postby The New Earth Coalition » Sun May 19, 2013 10:01 pm

Bralia wrote:
Cosara wrote:This is my point, but they just want an exception because she's "not guilty enough"

Do you even listen to our arguments? :eyebrow:


Sorry, I didn't have time to read 800+ posts, so I just posted what I thought.
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Yankee Empire
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Postby Yankee Empire » Sun May 19, 2013 10:03 pm

Evraim wrote:
Cosara wrote:Yes. That's basically your argument.

They're challenging the legitimacy of the laws in question, Cos.

Zweite Alaje wrote:I don't plan on it, assholeness forever, fuck sugarcoating.

I prefer being kind with a pinch of snarkiness.


I don't think he is an "asshole" though, I think he just speaks his piece and makes no apoliges.

It's great compared to the people that have no passion and just tiptoe around everything and people who use excessive sarcasm.
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Zweite Alaje
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sun May 19, 2013 10:04 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:
1.) People are usually afraid of me. I'm often told I'm scary.
2.) I can fight.
3.) I have a lot of good friends that can fight.


You know me as another identity...and through that identity, I'd say we are good friends :)

Wut? You tryin to play mind games with me?
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Yankee Empire
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Postby Yankee Empire » Sun May 19, 2013 10:04 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Yankee Empire wrote:Whores are lovers not fighters?

Well, that explains why I have yet to get laid.

...Do you... pick fights with people you want to have sex with?
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Postby Cosara » Sun May 19, 2013 10:05 pm

Yankee Empire wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Well, that explains why I have yet to get laid.

...Do you... pick fights with people you want to have sex with?

That explains why..
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun May 19, 2013 10:05 pm

Yankee Empire wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Well, that explains why I have yet to get laid.

...Do you... pick fights with people you want to have sex with?

I suppose that's one way to keep yourself a virgin.
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