Sex and Sexual Orientation of NSers

[Mike the Progressive]

Don't try and lecture me on who I should and who i should not ally myself with.

So... LGBTBNPOPWIASBTISSODBTPSTCRBELGBTSFTATA

(Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals & Transgendered But Not Post-Op People Who Identify As Straight Because There Is Some Sort Of Division Between Transgendered People So They Can't Really Be Called Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals & Transgendered So Fuck Them And Their Argument)

God damn... and to think people were struggling with accepting just the tail end of LGBT...

I wish we could just stick with LGBT, all these acronyms are giving me headaches. And while I admit sexuality is complex and diverse, the whole QUILTBAG is just overdoing it.

[Aalnordhavn]

Do you mind refraining from posting that image? Seriously. That doesn't legitimize whatever argument you're trying to make.

Pssst.... it is the argument I'm making! You, AFAIK a cis person, are arguing against a trans woman about what it means to be a trans woman. This makes you inherently wrong, so

I think you may be mistaken. Being in an argument with a trans woman invalidates any argument or point that I have? Really? Wow. I need to get you on my side for every argument against white people on NS.

[DrakoBlaria]

I am a pansexual.
Hey, dont look at me like that. Like you wouldnt tap that

[The Steel Magnolia]

Don't try and lecture me on who I should and who i should not ally myself with.

So... LGBTBNPOPWIASBTISSODBTPSTCRBELGBTSFTATA

(Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals & Transgendered But Not Post-Op People Who Identify As Straight Because There Is Some Sort Of Division Between Transgendered People So They Can't Really Be Called Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals & Transgendered So Fuck Them And Their Argument)

God damn... and to think people were struggling with accepting just the tail end of LGBT...

...

Dude. I don't even like QUILTBAG. LGBT is fine, LGBTQ if you really must.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Pssst.... it is the argument I'm making! You, AFAIK a cis person, are arguing against a trans woman about what it means to be a trans woman. This makes you inherently wrong, so

I think you may be mistaken. Being in an argument with a trans woman invalidates any argument or point that I have? Really? Wow. I need to get you on my side for every argument against white people on NS.

Tumblr. Every argument on tumblr, that's the only place it really works.

[Linux and the X]

Pssst.... it is the argument I'm making! You, AFAIK a cis person, are arguing against a trans woman about what it means to be a trans woman. This makes you inherently wrong, so

I think you may be mistaken. Being in an argument with a trans woman invalidates any argument or point that I have? Really? Wow. I need to get you on my side for every argument against white people on NS.

No, not any. Just those about what it means to be a trans woman.

[Aalnordhavn]

I think you may be mistaken. Being in an argument with a trans woman invalidates any argument or point that I have? Really? Wow. I need to get you on my side for every argument against white people on NS.

No, not any. Just those about what it means to be a trans woman.

Oh no. Please. Drag out that image in whatever argument against Scandinavians, liberalism or racial equality I'm defending to legitimize it. Not like you're doing that for TSM... am I right?

Oh. Just when you're pandering to someone. I get it.

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Don't try and lecture me on who I should and who i should not ally myself with.

So... LGBTBNPOPWIASBTISSODBTPSTCRBELGBTSFTATA

(Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals & Transgendered But Not Post-Op People Who Identify As Straight Because There Is Some Sort Of Division Between Transgendered People So They Can't Really Be Called Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals & Transgendered So Fuck Them And Their Argument)

God damn... and to think people were struggling with accepting just the tail end of LGBT...

All of the reasons you are wrong:

1) You keep using the irrational past tense of "transgender." Ew. "Transgendered" isn't a word.
2) You continue to speak about trans* issues you know nothing about by the arbitrary categorization of "pre-op" and "post-op."
3) Which points to your ignorance because that assumes SRS is necessary to validate a trans* person's gender identity. It is not.

A woman with a penis is a woman if she identifies as a woman. She is as much a woman as a cisgender woman. If she, being a transwoman with a penis, exclusively is attracted to men, she is a heterosexual. If she undergoes SRS, and remains exclusively attracted to men, she is still a heterosexual. If she never undergoes SRS, and even if she has no intention of undergoing SRS, she is still a heterosexual. Do you get it now?

[Aalnordhavn]

So... LGBTBNPOPWIASBTISSODBTPSTCRBELGBTSFTATA

(Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals & Transgendered But Not Post-Op People Who Identify As Straight Because There Is Some Sort Of Division Between Transgendered People So They Can't Really Be Called Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals & Transgendered So Fuck Them And Their Argument)

God damn... and to think people were struggling with accepting just the tail end of LGBT...

All of the reasons you are wrong:

1) You keep using the irrational past tense of "transgender." Ew. "Transgendered" isn't a word.
2) You continue to speak about trans* issues you know nothing about by the arbitrary categorization of "pre-op" and "post-op."
3) Which points to your ignorance because that assumes SRS is necessary to validate a trans* person's gender identity. It is not.

A woman with a penis is a woman if she identifies as a woman. She is as much a woman as a cisgender woman. If she, being a transwoman with a penis, exclusively is attracted to men, she is a heterosexual. If she undergoes SRS, and remains exclusively attracted to men, she is still a heterosexual. If she never undergoes SRS, and even if she has no intention of undergoing SRS, she is still a heterosexual. Do you get it now?

This was never in question. For the love of GOD.

It was simply Obrenovacia saying "some trans-people are more woman than others" (bad reference to Orwell) in a poorly worded post and all hell breaking loose from it.

What you're saying has never been lost on anyone in this argument.

[The Ostland]

I'm a Christian, and I think homosexuality is wrong, but I say that you shouldn't force change onto people. The Bible says that you should love everyone. So take that fanatical atheists and fanatics of my own religion! Fanatical atheists think that religion is violent and hateful, but it isn't. I believe everyone should love each other as human beings. And to the fanatics of my own religion, you should just be quiet! You are not making Christianity look better. You are taking the true meaning of Christ's message and stomping on it. Fanatics of anything please shut up and respect everyone. Thank you.

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It was simply Obrenovacia saying "some trans-people are more woman than others" (bad reference to Orwell) in a poorly worded post and all hell breaking loose from it.

You cannot use "poorly worded" to defend what is intrinsically a flawed concept.

If you identify as male, you're male. If you identify as female, you're female. If you identify as non-binary, you're non-binary. End of.

[Hathradic States]

I'm a Christian, and I think homosexuality is wrong, but I say that you shouldn't force change onto people. The Bible says that you should love everyone. So take that fanatical atheists and fanatics of my own religion! Fanatical atheists think that religion is violent and hateful, but it isn't. I believe everyone should love each other as human beings. And to the fanatics of my own religion, you should just be quiet! You are not making Christianity look better. You are taking the true meaning of Christ's message and stomping on it. Fanatics of anything please shut up and respect everyone. Thank you.

Damn I wish more people were like you. No sarcasm.

[The Steel Magnolia]

All of the reasons you are wrong:

1) You keep using the irrational past tense of "transgender." Ew. "Transgendered" isn't a word.
2) You continue to speak about trans* issues you know nothing about by the arbitrary categorization of "pre-op" and "post-op."
3) Which points to your ignorance because that assumes SRS is necessary to validate a trans* person's gender identity. It is not.

A woman with a penis is a woman if she identifies as a woman. She is as much a woman as a cisgender woman. If she, being a transwoman with a penis, exclusively is attracted to men, she is a heterosexual. If she undergoes SRS, and remains exclusively attracted to men, she is still a heterosexual. If she never undergoes SRS, and even if she has no intention of undergoing SRS, she is still a heterosexual. Do you get it now?

This was never in question. For the love of GOD.

It was simply Obrenovacia saying "some trans-people are more woman than others" (bad reference to Orwell) in a poorly worded post and all hell breaking loose from it.

What you're saying has never been lost on anyone in this argument.

...Well, yeah. Because it was a stupid thing to say. No one's argued it's the end of the world.

[Linux and the X]

Oh. Just when you're pandering to someone. I get it.

Sorry, who exactly am I supposed to be pandering to?

Oh, and did you get permission from the site owner before hotlinking to that image?

[Cameroi]

socially androgynous, erotically hetero, whole hearted supporter of all genders and orientations.

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

I'm a Christian.

Since when is that either a gender or an orientation?

[Aalnordhavn]

Oh. Just when you're pandering to someone. I get it.

Sorry, who exactly am I supposed to be pandering to?

Oh, and did you get permission from the site owner before hotlinking to that image?

TSM...

As for the link to the image, I tried but there's nothing here yet.

Did you?

[Linux and the X]

Sorry, who exactly am I supposed to be pandering to?

TSM...

Oh, this oughta be good.

As for the link to the image, I tried but there's nothing here yet.

Did you?

Um, yeah.

[Mattville Islands]

Well I am not straight.
I am still debating with my self if im gay or bi (Male) . I prefer the guys then the chicks but I am still deciding weather im fully 100% gay or bi

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

I'm a Christian, and I think homosexuality is wrong, but I say that you shouldn't force change onto people. The Bible says that you should love everyone. So take that fanatical atheists and fanatics of my own religion! Fanatical atheists think that religion is violent and hateful, but it isn't. I believe everyone should love each other as human beings. And to the fanatics of my own religion, you should just be quiet! You are not making Christianity look better. You are taking the true meaning of Christ's message and stomping on it. Fanatics of anything please shut up and respect everyone. Thank you.

Damn I wish more people were like you. No sarcasm.

You wish more people posted off-topic rants?

[Starkindler]

I'm a Christian.

Since when is that either a gender or an orientation?

It's both.
Christian means hetero and cisgender by definition.

[Immoren]

Since when is that either a gender or an orientation?

It's both.
Christian means hetero and cisgender by definition.

i think there are christians' who disagree.

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

Since when is that either a gender or an orientation?

It's both.
Christian means hetero and cisgender by definition.

No.

[The Holy Therns]

Since when is that either a gender or an orientation?

It's both.
Christian means hetero and cisgender by definition.

That's the silliest thing I've heard, and I work as a silly-thing-hearer. People call me several times a day to tell me their silly thing and have them judged on the silly scale, and by all the gods and goddesses of silly, this thing was the silliest of the lot.

You broke the silly scale, hon. What am I to work for now?

[TaQud]

the whole QUILTBAG is just overdoing it.

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