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Postby Scholencia » Wed May 22, 2013 3:01 am

Disserbia wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Not races, but indeed some cultures are superior to others. Like for example, Europe has always been a center of the world and it is not comparable to the primitive, barbaric tribes from the pre-Columbian era.

Has it? I mean in the most modern period yes, but always?

Well, from the Ancient Greek, Rome until the 8th century it was developed. Than stagnation came due to migration of germanic and slavic (barbarian) tribes. After some time, Europe got on their feet again. So yes, it is about 2300 years of being the best place on Easrth.
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Postby Reddogkeno101 » Wed May 22, 2013 3:05 am

First to answer the question, no not in all shapes and forms, but certain races adapted to certain environments, and slowly evolution has been making us and our ancestors more adapted to their environments. Certain races are superior in certain areas, but no race is overall superior to another. Sorry if what I said isn't exactly cohesive, it's just how I roll.
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Postby Disserbia » Wed May 22, 2013 3:07 am

Scholencia wrote:
Disserbia wrote:Has it? I mean in the most modern period yes, but always?

Well, from the Ancient Greek, Rome until the 8th century it was developed. Than stagnation came due to migration of germanic and slavic (barbarian) tribes. After some time, Europe got on their feet again. So yes, it is about 2300 years of being the best place on Easrth.

The stagnation like their early progress was due to many influences, but even at those times and before and after they were not alone in their status...also developed? How really?
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Scholencia wrote:Well, from the Ancient Greek, Rome until the 8th century it was developed. Than stagnation came due to migration of germanic and slavic (barbarian) tribes. After some time, Europe got on their feet again. So yes, it is about 2300 years of being the best place on Easrth.

The stagnation like their early progress was due to many influences, but even at those times and before and after they were not alone in their status...also developed? How really?


A centralized Empire and solid buildings made of concrete and roads that are usable every time of the year. Compare that to the Barbarians of that time

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Postby Disserbia » Wed May 22, 2013 3:19 am

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Disserbia wrote:The stagnation like their early progress was due to many influences, but even at those times and before and after they were not alone in their status...also developed? How really?


A centralized Empire and solid buildings made of concrete and roads that are usable every time of the year. Compare that to the Barbarians of that time

Are barbarians the only other people in the world at that time?
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Postby Scholencia » Wed May 22, 2013 3:22 am

Disserbia wrote:
Scholencia wrote:Well, from the Ancient Greek, Rome until the 8th century it was developed. Than stagnation came due to migration of germanic and slavic (barbarian) tribes. After some time, Europe got on their feet again. So yes, it is about 2300 years of being the best place on Easrth.

The stagnation like their early progress was due to many influences, but even at those times and before and after they were not alone in their status...also developed? How really?

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Sedikal wrote:This isn't a question of "race" but culture and socio-economic situations.


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How is this even a real question.No

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Postby Draakonite » Wed May 22, 2013 3:31 am

Disserbia wrote:
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A centralized Empire and solid buildings made of concrete and roads that are usable every time of the year. Compare that to the Barbarians of that time

Are barbarians the only other people in the world at that time?


In it's original meaning, yes.
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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Wed May 22, 2013 3:35 am

Some people are inherently superior to others. Who could doubt that Einstein or Ramnuajan or al-Khwarizmi were born extraordinarily smart? However, I don't believe that when averaged among races, there is any significant difference. Even if some races are ever so slightly better than others, race would be only a negligible factor in determining intelligence, fitness, etc. So to summarize, some people are born with better genes than others, but when averaged out to races, there are no significant difference.
Edit: Just to clarify, I do not support forced sterilization of supposedly "less intelligent" or "less healthy" humans. While in the long term, that might cause humankind to get smarter and healthier, it would be astoundingly and incomprehensibly immoral. I just think that some people are born with lucky genes.
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Postby Paixao » Wed May 22, 2013 4:06 am

Hippostania wrote:Yes, there are some differences between races. There's a reason why nearly all 60 meter running record holders are black.


...and it's not down to race but rather genetics. :palm:

EDIT: Also, since when is 60m the standard measure for running? :eyebrow:
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Postby Aaland » Wed May 22, 2013 5:51 am

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Hippostania wrote:Yes, there are some differences between races. There's a reason why nearly all 60 meter running record holders are black.


...and it's not down to race but rather genetics. :palm:

EDIT: Also, since when is 60m the standard measure for running? :eyebrow:

Since 1900.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 22, 2013 5:58 am

Aaland wrote:
Paixao wrote:
...and it's not down to race but rather genetics. :palm:

EDIT: Also, since when is 60m the standard measure for running? :eyebrow:

Since 1900.

"The 60 metres was an Olympic event in the 1900 and 1904 Summer Games but was removed from the schedule thereafter."
:eyebrow: The standard measure for running, but not in the Olympics?

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Wed May 22, 2013 6:08 am

Draakonite wrote:In common speech, almost. Only China comes to my mind.

Then you are very ignorant of history.
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Postby Yankee Empire » Wed May 22, 2013 6:14 am

Merriwhether wrote:
Sedikal wrote:This isn't a question of "race" but culture and socio-economic situations.


^This.


Culture and socio-economic situtatiosn dictate phenotypes *nods*
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Postby Aaland » Wed May 22, 2013 6:59 am

Ifreann wrote:

"The 60 metres was an Olympic event in the 1900 and 1904 Summer Games but was removed from the schedule thereafter."
:eyebrow: The standard measure for running, but not in the Olympics?

Oh, I missed the "standard" part. Derp.

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Postby Freeman » Wed May 22, 2013 7:05 am

Im white but the blacks are better.
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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 23, 2013 2:26 pm

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Not races, but indeed some cultures are superior to others. Like for example, Europe has always been a center of the world and it is not comparable to the primitive, barbaric tribes from the pre-Columbian era.

Europe has always been a center of the world? Haha, bullshit.
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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 23, 2013 2:27 pm

Hippostania wrote:Yes, there are some differences between races. There's a reason why nearly all 60 meter running record holders are black.

Yes, it's because of your shallow understanding of basic biology.
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Postby Shaggai » Thu May 23, 2013 2:33 pm

Why yes. Intelligent races, such as humans, are inherently superior to nonintelligent/nonsentient races such as E. Coli.
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Postby Mkuki » Thu May 23, 2013 2:35 pm

Shaggai wrote:Why yes. Intelligent races, such as humans, are inherently superior to nonintelligent/nonsentient races such as E. Coli.

Considering those aren't races... :meh:
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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 23, 2013 2:35 pm

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Disserbia wrote:Has it? I mean in the most modern period yes, but always?

Well, from the Ancient Greek, Rome until the 8th century it was developed. Than stagnation came due to migration of germanic and slavic (barbarian) tribes. After some time, Europe got on their feet again. So yes, it is about 2300 years of being the best place on Easrth.

The stagnation came due to the inefficient economy, shitty rulers, corruption, the slave economy, having an empire that's too large to control, alongside the growing power of the Germanic tribes which coincided with the decline of Rome, not due to migration. During the Middle Ages, Europe was literally a horrible place to be in comparison to East Asia and the Islamic World, both of which were prospering. Europe, especially Western Europe, was cut off from most trade as old roads degraded and fell out of use, and also due to its location on the western fringe of the Eurasian continent. European goods were also not very much desired by the people of other nations.
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Postby Mkuki » Thu May 23, 2013 2:35 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Yes, there are some differences between races. There's a reason why nearly all 60 meter running record holders are black.

And clearly, it's because they're black. :roll:

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Postby Shaggai » Thu May 23, 2013 2:38 pm

Mkuki wrote:
Shaggai wrote:Why yes. Intelligent races, such as humans, are inherently superior to nonintelligent/nonsentient races such as E. Coli.

Considering those aren't races... :meh:

Well, I mean, the human race, you know, close enough... :p
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