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Postby Norstal » Mon May 20, 2013 11:26 am

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Norstal wrote:So do the Germans? And the French too? Or the U.S if you count Civil War as a catastrophe.

America hasn't done a good job, and wars aren't counted. Don't know about the others.

Ok...what about natural disasters then?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/pos ... -on-sandy/

Or what exactly is a "catastrophe" if a giant fucking war that halved a population isn't?
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Postby Kvatchdom » Mon May 20, 2013 11:29 am

Norstal wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:America hasn't done a good job, and wars aren't counted. Don't know about the others.

Ok...what about natural disasters then?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/pos ... -on-sandy/

Or what exactly is a "catastrophe" if a giant fucking war that halved a population isn't?

Think about Katrina and many others. The US population has fucked over and around. The Japanese worked together on it.

I'm not very knowledgeable of the subject though, so don't listen to me.
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Postby Israeli Defense Force » Mon May 20, 2013 11:32 am

Superior is a loaded word.

But peoples of different ethnic/"racial" (if you want to use the word race) backgrounds can be, and are in many cases, obviously different in physical and mental capabilities. There are many reasons for this, owing to development (evolution) in areas of different terrain, climate, and so on. Some peoples are more likely to be tall and skinny, some stout, some better runners and others better thinkers. But at the end of the day we're all still humans, and while we should embrace our unique heritages at the same time we should not forget that all humans are entitled to recognized as such.
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Postby Natapoc » Mon May 20, 2013 11:50 am

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Natapoc wrote:1. First get rid of that red and black flag until you get some analysis. Same goes for the hammer and sickle and anarchy symbols. No one who asks such a question has the right to use the symbolism of freedom.
2. No. No races are inherently superior to others because race does not exist as a biological reality (it does exist as a cultural reality).

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Postby Chinese Regions » Mon May 20, 2013 11:57 am

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Golgothium wrote:Race, no. Culture/Cultural practices? Definitely.


In some cases, belonging to an ethnic group does determine cultural practices.

Meh don't think so, geography might, Greeks and the unrelated Spaniards have late dinners and afternoon naps I think because both of their nations are in the Mediterranean but not strictly near one another.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon May 20, 2013 11:58 am

The Vermin Confederation of Mossflower wrote:
Natapoc wrote:1. First get rid of that red and black flag until you get some analysis. Same goes for the hammer and sickle and anarchy symbols. No one who asks such a question has the right to use the symbolism of freedom.
2. No. No races are inherently superior to others because race does not exist as a biological reality (it does exist as a cultural reality).

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Carry on.

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Postby Norstal » Mon May 20, 2013 12:38 pm

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Norstal wrote:Ok...what about natural disasters then?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/pos ... -on-sandy/

Or what exactly is a "catastrophe" if a giant fucking war that halved a population isn't?

Think about Katrina and many others. The US population has fucked over and around. The Japanese worked together on it.

I'm not very knowledgeable of the subject though, so don't listen to me.

The Japanese worked together during Fukushima? The victims, specifically refugees, were treated badly due to superstitions about radiation.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopher ... radiation/

I mean, I guess the government were a little bit better. Haha, no.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_ ... r_disaster

Due to frustration with Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) and the Japanese government "providing differing, confusing, and at times contradictory, information on critical health issues"


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Postby Shamshu the Defiant » Mon May 20, 2013 12:41 pm

Norstal wrote:The Japanese worked together during Fukushima? The victims, specifically refugees, were treated badly due to superstitions about radiation.


Superstitions?

Excuse me, ever hear of a little piece of history called "Godzilla"?

*looks it up*

Huh. Apparently that wasn't really a thing that happened.

I'm sorry. You're right.
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Postby Asmir » Tue May 21, 2013 3:43 pm

You would have to define superior... Many believe that minority races deserve extra help in society and that because of past events are unable to fix their status without lowering standards for them. These people believe that some races are superior to others and its a slap in the face to anyone affected by it. Me, I personally believe that race offers advantages to any culture and that the more divers the culture the more advantages it has.

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Postby Cameroi » Tue May 21, 2013 4:11 pm

hybreds are always healthier and sturdier then pedigrees. even if they're not always prettier, which they sometimes are too.
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Postby Avenio » Tue May 21, 2013 4:13 pm

I always find it amusing that the people who seem to know the least about evolutionary biology are always the ones that decide to use it to try and to shore up their own bigotries.

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Postby Asmir » Tue May 21, 2013 5:59 pm

Cameroi wrote:hybreds are always healthier and sturdier then pedigrees. even if they're not always prettier, which they sometimes are too.


A very good point. There is no such thing as racial purity, only inbreeding.

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Postby Olthar » Tue May 21, 2013 6:08 pm

Of course. We elves are very much superior any others. We've got far longer life spans, and we don't need to sleep unlike you lesser races who waste hours of the day in pointless unconsciousness. We also have a natural affinity for magic. Even our basic senses of sight and hearing are better than yours. Truly, elves are the greatest.
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Postby Karpathos » Tue May 21, 2013 6:12 pm

BTW-Pacificans are better than everyone. It's a fact.
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Postby Aaland » Tue May 21, 2013 6:17 pm

Asmir wrote:
Cameroi wrote:hybreds are always healthier and sturdier then pedigrees. even if they're not always prettier, which they sometimes are too.


A very good point. There is no such thing as racial purity, only inbreeding.

This is a myth, most white majority countries have a large enough pool of in-group genetic diversity that if they theoretically closed their borders forever they wouldn't all become inbred mutants. As for the suggestion that hybrids are healthier, when you consider the genetic variance within a group there is no evidence that "hybrid vigour" somehow applies to races of humans.

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Postby Sagustus » Tue May 21, 2013 7:54 pm

The Jewish race. They are God's chosen people.

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Postby Vastyr » Tue May 21, 2013 7:55 pm

Yes. Vampires are superior to us in every way, other then being allergic to the sun and needing blood consumption.

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Postby Geilinor » Tue May 21, 2013 8:45 pm

Are we still making this type of thread? I'm getting annoyed with NSG.
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Postby Libertarian California » Tue May 21, 2013 9:12 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:Asians know how to fix the nation after a catastrophe better than most do, but I believe it has nothing to do with race.


The North Koreans, the Vietnamese, the Cambodians, the Burmese, and the Thai seem to be having trouble.
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Postby Yankee Empire » Wed May 22, 2013 1:23 am

Israeli Defense Force wrote:We should all celebrate and revel in our diversity rather than ignoring science and pretending we're all cookie-cutter copies of each other.

Why?


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Why? Those guys seem pretty ugly to me. Except for the Chap in the Pith helmet.
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Geilinor wrote:Are we still making this type of thread? I'm getting annoyed with NSG.

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Postby Scholencia » Wed May 22, 2013 2:51 am

What's the opinion of the NS community?

Not races, but indeed some cultures are superior to others. Like for example, Europe has always been a center of the world and it is not comparable to the primitive, barbaric tribes from the pre-Columbian era.

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Postby Disserbia » Wed May 22, 2013 2:58 am

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What's the opinion of the NS community?

Not races, but indeed some cultures are superior to others. Like for example, Europe has always been a center of the world and it is not comparable to the primitive, barbaric tribes from the pre-Columbian era.

Has it? I mean in the most modern period yes, but always?
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