Are some races inherently superior to others?

[Evraim]

I get bored easily. Those websites are simply too predictable for my tastes - constant repetition of the basics of National Socialism that I already know since the age of 15, basically. Nazis ain't even fun to troll (trust me, I've tried), especially when you largely agree with them on many counts. And they don't have any RP threads that I know of.

NS, however, is enough big and diverse website to find both like-minded folks and lads who are amusing to screw around with just to laugh at how pissed they get when someone actually challenges the validity of their worldview.

I've thought of posting on Stormfront in an effort to dispel the peculiar notions those folks seem to have about Jews. Would you recommend doing this? A number of the individuals who frequent the site seem quite ignorant and unwilling to listen to anything which might alter their paradigm for perceiving the world. May I also ask which tenants of the National Socialist ideology appeal to you? I appreciate the rationalizations of Fascists. I am capable of comprehending how Francisco Franco or Benito Mussolini could inspire loyalty in their followers. What I cannot understand is how somebody who claims not to be racist could support National Socialism in the form popularized by Adolf Hitler. Perhaps you could enlighten me?

[Cannot think of a name]

Yes

Road rally > NASCAR

But really, NO

Word search saves me from repeating a joke and having to read a thread.

[SaintB]

Yes

Road rally > NASCAR

But really, NO

Word search saves me from repeating a joke and having to read a thread.

Best feature on NS?

[Sidhae]

I get bored easily. Those websites are simply too predictable for my tastes - constant repetition of the basics of National Socialism that I already know since the age of 15, basically. Nazis ain't even fun to troll (trust me, I've tried), especially when you largely agree with them on many counts. And they don't have any RP threads that I know of.

NS, however, is enough big and diverse website to find both like-minded folks and lads who are amusing to screw around with just to laugh at how pissed they get when someone actually challenges the validity of their worldview.

I've thought of posting on Stormfront in an effort to dispel the peculiar notions those folks seem to have about Jews. Would you recommend doing this? A number of the individuals who frequent the site seem quite ignorant and unwilling to listen to anything which might alter their paradigm for perceiving the world. May I also ask which tenants of the National Socialist ideology appeal to you? I appreciate the rationalizations of Fascists. I am capable of comprehending how Francisco Franco or Benito Mussolini could inspire loyalty in their followers. What I cannot understand is how somebody who claims not to be racist could support National Socialism in the form popularized by Adolf Hitler. Perhaps you could enlighten me?

I would strongly suggest against posting content that advocates Jews, homosexuals or anything else that goes against the tenets of National Socialism - similarly to NS and internet forums in general, there aren't that many enlightened individuals on Stormfront or other National Socialist forums who could overlook their pre-conceived ideological notions to look at things from the other side. Part of them are overly-enthusiastic about their ideology, part of them are just posers who (like a lot of self-proclaimed liberal kids here) demonstrate their ideological orthodoxy to fit in, and some are just plain losers frustrated about their lives and seeking an outlet to their anger, genuine intelligent National Socialists making up a strong minority. I hence prefer to lone-wolf rather than run with the pack - I have that nasty habit of thinking too much to make a good ideological follower to any idea.

Personally, I find the strong nationalism, socialist economic ideas and the collective interests of a nation being held above selfish individual desires appealing in National Socialism, as well as it's harsh realist take on politics and life in general.

I do believe that every race has it's unique and inherent qualities that are the product of thousands of years of natural and cultural selection, that any race can ascend to superiority over others thanks to those qualities under the right circumstances, and that races shouldn't mix to avoid losing those qualities and their identity that makes them unique. That would probably qualify me as a sworn racist by liberal standards. I don't, however, see why that should prevent constructive cooperation between folks of different races or justify unnecessary violence against one or another group.

I hope that more or less answers your questions.

[The Godly Nations]

Some cultures places different emphasis on certain things than others. I read a survey somewhere, I think it was in a book by Dr Albert Ellis, that Asians, on average, have a slightly lower IQ than white people. Yet, because Asian culture places more emphasis on focus and strictures than white people, they are able to perform better, even on a equal, or lower level of intelligence.

[Disserbia]

Some cultures places different emphasis on certain things than others. I read a survey somewhere, I think it was in a book by Dr Albert Ellis, that Asians, on average, have a slightly lower IQ than white people. Yet, because Asian culture places more emphasis on focus and strictures than white people, they are able to perform better, even on a equal, or lower level of intelligence.

That is literally meaningless to this discussion.

[The Godly Nations]

Some cultures places different emphasis on certain things than others. I read a survey somewhere, I think it was in a book by Dr Albert Ellis, that Asians, on average, have a slightly lower IQ than white people. Yet, because Asian culture places more emphasis on focus and strictures than white people, they are able to perform better, even on a equal, or lower level of intelligence.

That is literally meaningless to this discussion.

It isn't, it isn't a matter of inherent qualities of a race, but the enviorment in which the individual child was raised.

[Disserbia]

That is literally meaningless to this discussion.

It isn't, it isn't a matter of inherent qualities of a race, but the enviorment in which the individual child was raised.

Yeah I'm talking about the way you are measuring it though.

[SaintB]

That is literally meaningless to this discussion.

It isn't, it isn't a matter of inherent qualities of a race, but the enviorment in which the individual child was raised.

Minor variations in appearance or whatever doesn't make a race. A different race would be a different species.

[The Godly Nations]

It isn't, it isn't a matter of inherent qualities of a race, but the enviorment in which the individual child was raised.

Yeah I'm talking about the way you are measuring it though.

Please explain.

[The Godly Nations]

It isn't, it isn't a matter of inherent qualities of a race, but the enviorment in which the individual child was raised.

Minor variations in appearance or whatever doesn't make a race. A different race would be a different species.

This is a rather exclusive definition of race.

[SaintB]

Minor variations in appearance or whatever doesn't make a race. A different race would be a different species.

This is a rather exclusive definition of race.

Only as far as some people think.

[Disserbia]

Yeah I'm talking about the way you are measuring it though.

Please explain.

IQ tests are extremely limited and also ethno-centric, the cultural thing is a bit of a stereotype.

[Forster Keys]

Please explain.

IQ tests are extremely limited and also ethno-centric, the cultural thing is a bit of a stereotype.

Essentially they're just measuring your skills of categorisation amongst other things. I heard an interesting appraisal of it once. While we might describe a rat as a rodent and a mammal, our agrarian ancestors, who would have scored quite low on IQ tests just as Sub-Saharan agrarian people do today, would have answered that it was something that a cat chased.

[The Godly Nations]

Please explain.

IQ tests are extremely limited and also ethno-centric, the cultural thing is a bit of a stereotype.

Okay, I still don't see how IQ tests can be 'ethno-centric'.

[Forster Keys]

IQ tests are extremely limited and also ethno-centric, the cultural thing is a bit of a stereotype.

Okay, I still don't see how IQ tests can be 'ethno-centric'.

What one culture considers intelligence might not be the same for another.

[Grave_n_idle]

It has jack shit to do with liberalism.

Yes, it does. Liberals the main proponents of race denial.

Possibly. There is a correlation between further education - especially sciences - and less rightwing politics.

As such, people who are to the left (of the right wing) are more likely to understand how a concept like 'race' is meaningless.

[Adventus Secundus]

Motorcycle races are definitely superior to stock-car races...

but pod-races beat them all hands-down. I think Star Wars showed us that much.

[Grave_n_idle]

No shit. I live in reality.

You live in Narnia, or some other magical place where liberal means the opposite of what it actually means. When you want to have an actual discussion between mature adults, expand your vocabulary.

My use of "liberal" is in accordance and constistent with everything liberals do and promote. Funny you should mention vocabulary, considering I'm a linguist, my vocabulary is most likely many times that of yours.

And mine is likely many times larger than yours*. But vocabulary size proves very little in this discussion.

EDIT: * vocabulary, obviously.

[Grave_n_idle]

The Human Genome Project is a liberal plot.

Science is a liberal plot. *nod*

As Dawkins said "science is the poetry of reality".

And it's well known that reality has a liberal bias.

[Grave_n_idle]

IQ tests are extremely limited and also ethno-centric, the cultural thing is a bit of a stereotype.

Okay, I still don't see how IQ tests can be 'ethno-centric'.

It's one of the common complaints with regard to IQ testing (the other main one being that you can 'learn' how to score better on IQ tests). It's pretty commonly accepted that IQ tests tend to be culturally biased.

(For example - any question that uses letter or word patterns has some cultural bias, since it gives preference to people that speak that language fluently).

[Piero Sraffa]

NASCAR is superior to Formula 1. I propose the segregation of all Formula 1 racers and their fans to the limit the spread of their poor taste!

[Evraim]

Science is a liberal plot. *nod*

As Dawkins said "science is the poetry of reality".

And it's well known that reality has a liberal bias.

How gauche.

[Grave_n_idle]

As Dawkins said "science is the poetry of reality".

And it's well known that reality has a liberal bias.

How gauche.

Gauche? That doesn't seem to contextually fit. Does it mean something else over here?

[Libertarian California]

Well there are inherent differences between various ethnic groups. But does that determine superiority? It's a controversial question with controversial answers.