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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun May 19, 2013 9:25 am

Volnotova wrote:
Fruition wrote:From a Christian perspective(not necessarily mine), Noah getting drunk on the grape juice he drank from his own vineyard caused him to curse his youngest son and to praise his oldest son, thereby the youngest son becoming the head chief of the tribe that will proliferate into an entire African tribe, and the oldest son the same for Europe.


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Postby Katzistanza » Sun May 19, 2013 9:30 am

No. There is always more variation within a group than between groups.
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Sun May 19, 2013 9:32 am

Yes. The Human Race is inherently superior to the Martian Race.


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Postby Volnotova » Sun May 19, 2013 9:36 am

Inyourfaceistan wrote:Yes. The Human Race is inherently superior to the Martian Race.


Pff, everyone knows the Jovians and the Venusians are clearly superior to humanity.
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Postby Great Borealia » Sun May 19, 2013 9:37 am

I don't think there is any race superior to another, but there are superior and inferior cultures.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sun May 19, 2013 9:37 am

Inyourfaceistan wrote:Yes. The Human Race is inherently superior to the Martian Race.


If Bugs Bunny taught me anything, it's that Martians are far superior to humans... but inferior to (anthropomorphic) rabbits.
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Postby Katzistanza » Sun May 19, 2013 9:39 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:Yes. The Human Race is inherently superior to the Martian Race.


If Bugs Bunny taught me anything, it's that Martians are far superior to humans... but inferior to (anthropomorphic) rabbits.


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Postby Helito » Sun May 19, 2013 9:41 am

Fruition wrote:From a Christian perspective(not necessarily mine), Noah getting drunk on the grape juice he drank from his own vineyard caused him to curse his youngest son and to praise his oldest son, thereby the youngest son becoming the head chief of the tribe that will proliferate into an entire African tribe, and the oldest son the same for Europe.


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Postby Volnotova » Sun May 19, 2013 9:44 am

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It is not. I suggest you do not continue to speak out with such ignorance - it makes you look foolish.



Sure it is. Ask five different people to define intelligence and you'll get five different answers.

Bell Curve is a scientific theory.
There are races. There are smarter races/stronger races etc.
To ignore that is ignorance.


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Postby Duesenberg (Ancient) » Sun May 19, 2013 9:44 am

Some races are more advanced (via technological, social, or economic means) than others, but I think that has more to do with power than it does with race. That is called bigotry. Let's face it, the Caucasian race is more powerful than the Pacific Islander race. Is it because they're Caucasian? No. It just so happened that hundreds of years ago, Caucasians were more advanced through technological and economic means, ergo, this allowed them more leverage over other people. There should be no such thing as superiority, as it just seems not only arrogant but condescending.
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Postby Evraim » Sun May 19, 2013 10:40 am

Yankee Empire wrote:The thing is most Racialists tend not to use these terms as they are too broad to pin down certain traits though certain general things can be taken from them.

White,Black, Brown are more of a new world Cultural simplification of race due to the great amount of interbreeding, among the Various Europeans, the Natives and Africans.
And so throughout North and South America you get these broad groupings of "Mutts" that is just simplified by something obvious like skin color and Facial structure.

When it comes to tracing descent though, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup


As a social construct, race is affected by such cultural simplifications.

Yankee Empire wrote:Like I said simply because certain beleifs and identifications of Race may be socially constructed, that doesn't mean race in itself is "only a social construct".


Actually, it does - because the way in which you group people affects their shared characteristics. Without these arbitrary divisions, we would have no particular reason to note the differences between West Africans and Europeans.

Yankee Empire wrote:Source?


Africans Americans who obtained more than fifty percent of their genetic heritage from European ancestors, and yet are almost invariably categorized along with Africans who have minimal amounts of European heritage. I believe my first source cites a number of examples.

http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1435.html

This source claims that while a signifcant number of people within a given racial group might be related this is not always the case.
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Postby Mushet » Sun May 19, 2013 10:42 am

Jehuddah wrote:
Mushet wrote:That is not race, that is genepools, it's not blacks in general it's disproportionally Kenyans, and disproportionally Kenyans with Kalenjin genetics, that genepool happens to produce good runners in Africa just like the Tarahumara genepool produces good runners in Mexico (don't know how much they've been to the Olympics though)

You know race is based on Genetics, right?
That's precisely what we say. There are races. Ignoring it is ignorance.

It's not the black race, that's a social construct, it's genepools, the Kalenjim aren't a race, it's an ethnic group
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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Sun May 19, 2013 10:43 am

Yes. The Indy 500 has proved itself as being the master race at turning left 1000 times per year with a history that goes back to 1909. no other race can compare to it's history and, I dare say culture, of making the left turn. All of you backwards NASCAR fans should bow down to is superiority.
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Postby Immoren » Sun May 19, 2013 10:44 am

I personally think wife carrying competition is superiorirest race.
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Postby Mollary » Sun May 19, 2013 10:45 am

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Postby The Whispers » Sun May 19, 2013 10:46 am

Frankly, Tauren's racial stomp is kinda OP.

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Postby Thafoo » Sun May 19, 2013 10:47 am

it's obvious that Asians are the smartest, sexiest people on the planet

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Postby Evraim » Sun May 19, 2013 10:50 am

Thafoo wrote:it's obvious that Asians are the smartest, sexiest people on the planet

Aside from the Jews of course. :p

Volnotova wrote:
Jehuddah wrote:Bell Curve is a scientific theory.
There are races. There are smarter races/stronger races etc.
To ignore that is ignorance.


I don't even know what to say.

Hit him with a biology textbook.
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Postby Sahrani DR » Sun May 19, 2013 10:51 am

Humanity is not divided in races....yet. Simply, because Homo Sapiens is too "young" as a species, and therefore has not yet had the time to divide in species. Only climatic adaptions have emerged.

The fact that you claim that different "races" perform differently, is merely because of social,cultural,economic and historical reasons.
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Postby Fulflood » Sun May 19, 2013 10:51 am

Sedikal wrote:This isn't a question of "race" but culture and socio-economic situations.

Yes, very much so.
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Postby The Amarican Empire » Sun May 19, 2013 10:53 am

The Aryan race is superior industrialized first and we just think of new tech that makes things easier for us.

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Postby Diopolis » Sun May 19, 2013 10:53 am

Fruition wrote:From a Christian perspective(not necessarily mine), Noah getting drunk on the grape juice he drank from his own vineyard caused him to curse his youngest son and to praise his oldest son, thereby the youngest son becoming the head chief of the tribe that will proliferate into an entire African tribe, and the oldest son the same for Europe.

The oldest son proliferated into asia, it was the middle son who was the father of europe.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sun May 19, 2013 10:54 am

The Amarican Empire wrote:The Aryan race is superior industrialized first and we just think of new tech that makes things easier for us.


There is no 'Aryan race'.
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Postby Evraim » Sun May 19, 2013 10:54 am

Sahrani DR wrote:Humanity is not divided in races....yet. Simply, because Homo Sapiens is too "young" as a species, and therefore has not yet had the time to divide in species. Only climatic adaptions have emerged.

The fact that you claim that different "races" perform differently, is merely because of social,cultural,economic and historical reasons.

Species =/= Race

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