Are some races inherently superior to others?

[Lost canaan]

All races are equal no-one is better than the other like garrus vakarian having reach and shepard having flexibility

[Wind in the Willows]

So if i take a mentallyu disabled child and put them in the care of a pair of genuises...

Define "mentally disabled". If you're referring to somebody who was born with a damaged brain, who would be lucky to learn to walk and talk, of course they're most likely not going to be genuises. However, if you're referring to a high-functioning autistic person (say with Asperger's), then they're probably going to turn out highly intelligent.

High functioning Autism and Aspergers are two different things.

[Grenartia]

I fucking knew thats the reaction i'd get, did any of you bother to actually I don't know actually read it?

You may be suprised. I know I was.

That... was actually a pretty good read. Color me pleasantly surprised.

Save for the blatant Holocaust-denial and anti-Jewish sentiments.

[Wind in the Willows]

All races are equal no-one is better than the other like garrus vakarian having reach and shepard having flexibility

If races were truly equal, there wouldn't be special treatment for certain races.

[Grenartia]

Define "mentally disabled". If you're referring to somebody who was born with a damaged brain, who would be lucky to learn to walk and talk, of course they're most likely not going to be genuises. However, if you're referring to a high-functioning autistic person (say with Asperger's), then they're probably going to turn out highly intelligent.

High functioning Autism and Aspergers are two different things.

Source?

All races are equal no-one is better than the other like garrus vakarian having reach and shepard having flexibility

If races were truly equal, there wouldn't be special treatment for certain races.

Said "special treatment" is only to give the disadvantaged equal opportunities.

[Lewis Armistead]

All men are created equal.

- Lewis A. Armistead

[Kaizakhstan]

High functioning Autism and Aspergers are two different things.

Source?

If races were truly equal, there wouldn't be special treatment for certain races.

Said "special treatment" is only to give the disadvantaged equal opportunities.

"I've got it! We'll give people equal opportunities by treating them unequally!"

[Avenio]

We're even to the point where we can produce good genetic estimates of what percentage of African / European ancestry that Americans who identify as "black" or "white" actually have. The general African-American population is something like one sixth to one fifth European by bulk genetics, on average.

This is not indicative of anything more than our ability to use SNPs to study population genetics and determine ancestry.

The method by which the lines have been drawn may be social; but those lines correspond to clusters of genetic differences.

Wrong. As I said, the races are paraphyletic groupings. Worse, some are even polyphyletic. The races themselves are not clusters, but themselves contain dozens of different clines that spread across the entire human population. The races are nothing more than attempts on our part to draw lines in the sand where no such lines actually exist.

[Wind in the Willows]

High functioning Autism and Aspergers are two different things.

Source?

If races were truly equal, there wouldn't be special treatment for certain races.

Said "special treatment" is only to give the disadvantaged equal opportunities.

http://www.autism.org.uk/about-autism/a ... rence.aspx

[The Grim Reaper]

Source?



Said "special treatment" is only to give the disadvantaged equal opportunities.

"I've got it! We'll give people equal opportunities by treating them unequally!"

Which is a viewpoint that is internally consistent with a pro-social welfare viewpoint - that is, the current state of an individual is not equal to their potential state. The poor can't be expected to perform to a respective level to the rich - not because they are incapable of, but because their poverty prevents them from doing so.

In an equivalent view, affirmative action for the races works in the same way as it does for genders - it stops members of historically privileged races and genders from blocking out members of less privileged races and genders.

It's giving people equal opportunities by treating unequal bases unequally.

[Wind in the Willows]

High functioning Autism and Aspergers are two different things.

Source?

If races were truly equal, there wouldn't be special treatment for certain races.

Said "special treatment" is only to give the disadvantaged equal opportunities.

Nobody should get any special treatment at all.

[Yankee Empire]

That... was actually a pretty good read. Color me pleasantly surprised.

Save for the blatant Holocaust-denial and anti-Jewish sentiments.

Don't like some things about the site. Therefore ignore everything else on there.

True logic bro.

[Grenartia]

Source?



Said "special treatment" is only to give the disadvantaged equal opportunities.

"I've got it! We'll give people equal opportunities by treating them unequally!"

If you have a 7 ft. tall person, a 5 ft. tall person, and a 3 ft. tall person, all trying to look over a 6 ft. tall fence, does it not make more sense to give the 5ft and 3ft tall people 1ft and 3ft tall blocks (respectively) to stand on, as opposed to giving them all 1ft tall blocks?

[The God-Realm]

Korean race is master race.

[Grenartia]

Source?



Said "special treatment" is only to give the disadvantaged equal opportunities.

http://www.autism.org.uk/about-autism/a ... rence.aspx

I was always lead to believe that AS was a form of HFA. Meh. Learn something new everyday.

Save for the blatant Holocaust-denial and anti-Jewish sentiments.

Don't like some things about the site. Therefore ignore everything else on there.

True logic bro.

The PRIMARY cause of the site is ANTI-ZIONISM (aka, anti-Jewish). Its no different than ignoring "2+2=4" on a KKK website, because of the anti-black sentiment on the site.

[Kaizakhstan]

"I've got it! We'll give people equal opportunities by treating them unequally!"

If you have a 7 ft. tall person, a 5 ft. tall person, and a 3 ft. tall person, all trying to look over a 6 ft. tall fence, does it not make more sense to give the 5ft and 3ft tall people 1ft and 3ft tall blocks (respectively) to stand on, as opposed to giving them all 1ft tall blocks?

It's not fair that the short person can use their height as an excuse to get whatever block they want, when someone else who has worked harder for, and is more qualified to receive a block has to settle for a lower-quality block because the higher-quality block has been taken by the short person.

[Wind in the Willows]

http://www.autism.org.uk/about-autism/a ... rence.aspx

I was always lead to believe that AS was a form of HFA. Meh. Learn something new everyday.

Don't like some things about the site. Therefore ignore everything else on there.

True logic bro.

The PRIMARY cause of the site is ANTI-ZIONISM (aka, anti-Jewish). Its no different than ignoring "2+2=4" on a KKK website, because of the anti-black sentiment on the site.

Anti-Zionism is not Anti-Jewish.

http://www.nkusa.org/
http://www.truetorahjews.org
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... onism.html
http://www.freewebs.com/jewsagainstzionism/
http://www.israelversusjudaism.org/

Take a look at the above links, all Jewish organizations against Zionism.

[Grenartia]

If you have a 7 ft. tall person, a 5 ft. tall person, and a 3 ft. tall person, all trying to look over a 6 ft. tall fence, does it not make more sense to give the 5ft and 3ft tall people 1ft and 3ft tall blocks (respectively) to stand on, as opposed to giving them all 1ft tall blocks?

It's not fair that the short person can use their height as an excuse to get whatever block they want, when someone else who has worked harder for, and is more qualified to receive a block has to settle for a lower-quality block because the higher-quality block has been taken by the short person.

How the fuck does a person "work harder for, and become more qualified to receive" a block to boost their height? And the blocks are of the same fucking quality. One is not going to break under the weight of a person. Also, of what use is the 3ft. block to the 7ft person?

I was always lead to believe that AS was a form of HFA. Meh. Learn something new everyday.



The PRIMARY cause of the site is ANTI-ZIONISM (aka, anti-Jewish). Its no different than ignoring "2+2=4" on a KKK website, because of the anti-black sentiment on the site.

Anti-Zionism is not Anti-Jewish.

http://www.nkusa.org/
http://www.truetorahjews.org
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... onism.html
http://www.freewebs.com/jewsagainstzionism/
http://www.israelversusjudaism.org/

Take a look at the above links, all Jewish organizations against Zionism.

The way the site uses the term "anti-Zionism" it is anti-Jewish.

[Wind in the Willows]

It's not fair that the short person can use their height as an excuse to get whatever block they want, when someone else who has worked harder for, and is more qualified to receive a block has to settle for a lower-quality block because the higher-quality block has been taken by the short person.

How the fuck does a person "work harder for, and become more qualified to receive" a block to boost their height? And the blocks are of the same fucking quality. One is not going to break under the weight of a person. Also, of what use is the 3ft. block to the 7ft person?

Anti-Zionism is not Anti-Jewish.

http://www.nkusa.org/
http://www.truetorahjews.org
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... onism.html
http://www.freewebs.com/jewsagainstzionism/
http://www.israelversusjudaism.org/

Take a look at the above links, all Jewish organizations against Zionism.

The way the site uses the term "anti-Zionism" it is anti-Jewish.

Jews created and run the websites that I posted in my last post. Why the fuck would a Jew be against themselves? Just admit that you have lost the argument.

Being Anti-Zionist is not Anti-Jewish.

[Chinese Regions]

Yes, augments.

[Risottia]

Current thinking by geneticists is that you can run genetic testing and determine what race someone identifies as with a high probability of accuracy.

So they're comparing phenotypes with genotypes. The "race" category fails at being a phenotypical or genotypical descriptor.

wiki: race
Biological definitions of race (Long & Kittles 2003) Concept Reference Definition
Hooton (1926): "A great division of mankind, characterized as a group by the sharing of a certain combination of features, which have been derived from their common descent, and constitute a vague physical background, usually more or less obscured by individual variations, and realized best in a composite picture."
Mayr (1969): "A subspecies is an aggregate of phenotypically similar populations of a species, inhabiting a geographic subdivision of the range of a species, and differing taxonomically from other populations of the species."
Dobzhansky (1970)_ "Races are genetically distinct Mendelian populations. They are neither individuals nor particular genotypes, they consist of individuals who differ genetically among themselves."
Templeton (1998): "A subspecies (race) is a distinct evolutionary lineage within a species. This definition requires that a subspecies be genetically differentiated due to barriers to genetic exchange that have persisted for long periods of time; that is, the subspecies must have historical continuity in addition to current genetic differentiation."

"Race" as used demographically by the US Census is real enough to be determined with very high accuracy by a computer with a gene sample.

The wording choices of the US Census fail at being normative for anthropology. Anyway, if you want to claim administrative statements are normative for anthropology, here:

"The European Union rejects theories which attempt to determine the existence of separate human races."

Speaking about the method itself, considering how self-identification is mostly a result of non-self-identification by phenotypical groups, and how phenotypes are influenced by genotypes, no major surprise.

The "race" pseudotaxon the US census use isn't scientifically sound and mostly a politically-determined characterization, as hinted by these two facts:

wiki: white american
Definitions of who is "white" has changed throughout the history of the United States. At different times people of Italian, Irish, Jewish, and Eastern European heritage have been considered non-White, but are now generally considered White. Currently the question of whether people of Hispanic and non-Jewish Middle Eastern descent should be considered White is the topic of some discussion in the US.


wiki:definitions of whiteness in the US
Irish Americans were always considered white in the legal sense but many thought they were inferior because of the mentioned above, and their Roman Catholic religion. The Immigration Act of 1924 which was based on scientific racism and favored the "whitest Europeans" to immigrate had a gentle view on Irish immigration.
...
Southern Italians, were classified as a different nationality primarily at the request of their Northern Italian counterparts who were considered Alpine more akin to French and Germans.

[Mollary]

No race is superior to another and the examples in the OP are just sweeping generalisations.

[Terrordome]

No race is superior to another and the examples in the OP are just sweeping generalisations.

This basicly. Although there are a few physical advantages/disadvantages.

For instance blacks don't really have to worry about sunburn, and pacific islanders tend to be lactose intolerant. Inuit noses are better at breathing cold air.

[Grenartia]

How the fuck does a person "work harder for, and become more qualified to receive" a block to boost their height? And the blocks are of the same fucking quality. One is not going to break under the weight of a person. Also, of what use is the 3ft. block to the 7ft person?

The way the site uses the term "anti-Zionism" it is anti-Jewish.

Jews created and run the websites that I posted in my last post. Why the fuck would a Jew be against themselves? Just admit that you have lost the argument.

Being Anti-Zionist is not Anti-Jewish.

I was using the term Anti-Zionism IN THE SAME CONTEXT THAT THE SITE WAS.

This DOES NOT mean that I at all agree with that context.

[Napkiraly]

Race is a social construction and has no legitimate biological basis. Therefore no.