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Postby Ensiferum » Thu May 16, 2013 10:12 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
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I suppose so, unless it actually gets sold. Can't exactly bash a centre-right asshat for doing something to show how stupid privatization is.

I hate the labeling of Obama as a "rightist". It's a great way to feel real edgy and hate on America, but not much else.


Not edgy at all. He is a centre-rightist. Sorry but not the whole world lives in America, you need to accept this and deal with it because refusing to do so doesn't make you 3dgy or cooL.

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Postby Insane Kidney Mentality » Thu May 16, 2013 10:12 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Insane Kidney Mentality wrote:Republicans against... privatization...? What?

Am I missing something here? Or is it just one of those things where they'll do anything to spite the current administration?

Obama's making a point, that Republicans aren't really for privatization unless it benefits them.


Obama is only going to be stating the obvious.

My bets are that the Republicans will somehow relate this to Obama's 'Socialist' Policies. *Nods*
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Postby Cosara » Thu May 16, 2013 10:13 pm

Ensiferum wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:I hate the labeling of Obama as a "rightist". It's a great way to feel real edgy and hate on America, but not much else.


Not edgy at all. He is a centre-rightist. Sorry but not the whole world lives in America, you need to accept this and deal with it because refusing to do so doesn't make you 3dgy or cooL.

Who the fuck do you consider left wing? :blink:
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Postby Forster Keys » Thu May 16, 2013 10:14 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Ensiferum wrote:
I suppose so, unless it actually gets sold. Can't exactly bash a centre-right asshat for doing something to show how stupid privatization is.

I hate the labeling of Obama as a "rightist". It's a great way to feel real edgy and hate on America, but not much else.


Well he basically is.
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Postby Insane Kidney Mentality » Thu May 16, 2013 10:15 pm

Ensiferum wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:I hate the labeling of Obama as a "rightist". It's a great way to feel real edgy and hate on America, but not much else.


Not edgy at all. He is a centre-rightist. Sorry but not the whole world lives in America, you need to accept this and deal with it because refusing to do so doesn't make you 3dgy or cooL.


Americans don't need to accept anything - they're Americans. Now pipe down before we stuff freedom, democracy, and apple pie down your throats and up your arses with predator drones. *Nods*

Besides generally, currently all American presidents within the twenty-first century have been shit. Right, left, or otherwise.
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Postby Ensiferum » Thu May 16, 2013 10:16 pm

Cosara wrote:
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Not edgy at all. He is a centre-rightist. Sorry but not the whole world lives in America, you need to accept this and deal with it because refusing to do so doesn't make you 3dgy or cooL.

Who the fuck do you consider left wing? :blink:


Left wing would be anyone who is actually left of centre. Social Democrats for example, Greens in America, Libertarians are socially left, the SNP is centre-left. Obama is a centre-rightist and really hasn't implemented any "leftist" policies, the closest he got was his original draft of "Obamacare" and Dodd-Frank.

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Postby Forster Keys » Thu May 16, 2013 10:16 pm

If a Republican suggested this it'd be condemned to kingdom come, but apparently, purely because this came from Obama, he couldn't possibly mean it, and it's just a big trick! Well there's no evidence of a big conspiracy, so I'm just going to take this proposal on face value.
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Postby Libertarian California » Thu May 16, 2013 10:17 pm

Ensiferum wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:I hate the labeling of Obama as a "rightist". It's a great way to feel real edgy and hate on America, but not much else.


Not edgy at all. He is a centre-rightist. Sorry but not the whole world lives in America, you need to accept this and deal with it because refusing to do so doesn't make you 3dgy or cooL.


Well...this is a thread, about the American president, who is American, lives in America, and was elected by Americans. This thread is pretty much about America. Therefore, American political definitions are valid.
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Postby Insane Kidney Mentality » Thu May 16, 2013 10:17 pm

Cosara wrote:
Ensiferum wrote:
Not edgy at all. He is a centre-rightist. Sorry but not the whole world lives in America, you need to accept this and deal with it because refusing to do so doesn't make you 3dgy or cooL.

Who the fuck do you consider left wing? :blink:


Sweden. Finland. Generally countries with alot of ice, probably. *Shrugs*
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Postby Forster Keys » Thu May 16, 2013 10:17 pm

Ensiferum wrote:
Cosara wrote:Who the fuck do you consider left wing? :blink:


Left wing would be anyone who is actually left of centre. Social Democrats for example, Greens in America, Libertarians are socially left, the SNP is centre-left. Obama is a centre-rightist and really hasn't implemented any "leftist" policies, the closest he got was his original draft of "Obamacare" and Dodd-Frank.


Precisely. Conservatives across most of the Western world support universal healthcare.
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Postby Libertarian California » Thu May 16, 2013 10:18 pm

Forster Keys wrote:If a Republican suggested this it'd be condemned to kingdom come, but apparently, purely because this came from Obama, he couldn't possibly mean it, and it's just a big trick! Well there's no evidence of a big conspiracy, so I'm just going to take this proposal on face value.


This is pretty much true.

However, I think Obama is doing a good thing here. In fact, I think it's better that Obama does this rather than the Republicans because Obama has more support, and thus going through with this will be easier.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu May 16, 2013 10:18 pm

Good, they should sell it.

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Postby Forster Keys » Thu May 16, 2013 10:20 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:If a Republican suggested this it'd be condemned to kingdom come, but apparently, purely because this came from Obama, he couldn't possibly mean it, and it's just a big trick! Well there's no evidence of a big conspiracy, so I'm just going to take this proposal on face value.


This is pretty much true.

However, I think Obama is doing a good thing here. In fact, I think it's better that Obama does this rather than the Republicans because Obama has more support, and thus going through with this will be easier.


Well not in Tennessee he doesn't. Refreshingly if an actual decision requires the acquiescence or any role of the state of TN, then state Republicans look to block it. How odd this world is.
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Postby Insane Kidney Mentality » Thu May 16, 2013 10:20 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Ensiferum wrote:
Not edgy at all. He is a centre-rightist. Sorry but not the whole world lives in America, you need to accept this and deal with it because refusing to do so doesn't make you 3dgy or cooL.


Well...this is a thread, about the American president, who is American, lives in America, and was elected by Americans. This thread is pretty much about America. Therefore, American political definitions are valid.


Lies. Obama is a Kenyan born in the Islamic Territory of Hawaii, living in the White House plotting with Communist sympathizers, and was elected by Illegal Immigrants from Mexico. At least, that's what Fox News taught me...

But yeah, the American left and right is further right than the European right. *Shrugs*
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Postby Cosara » Thu May 16, 2013 10:20 pm

Ensiferum wrote:
Cosara wrote:Who the fuck do you consider left wing? :blink:


Left wing would be anyone who is actually left of centre. Social Democrats for example, Greens in America, Libertarians are socially left, the SNP is centre-left. Obama is a centre-rightist and really hasn't implemented any "leftist" policies, the closest he got was his original draft of "Obamacare" and Dodd-Frank.

Wikipedia wrote:In left-right politics, right-wing describes an outlook or specific position that accepts or supports social hierarchy or social inequality. Social hierarchy and social inequality is viewed by those affiliated with the Right as either inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable, whether it arises through traditional social differences or from competition in market economies. It typically accepts or justifies this position on the basis of natural law or tradition.
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Postby Radiatia » Thu May 16, 2013 10:21 pm

Sorry, call me ignorant, but what's the TVA?

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu May 16, 2013 10:22 pm

Radiatia wrote:Sorry, call me ignorant, but what's the TVA?


Tennessee Valley Authority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_Valley_Authority

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Postby Libertarian California » Thu May 16, 2013 10:22 pm

Fuck. Ninja'd by Nixon.
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Postby Forster Keys » Thu May 16, 2013 10:22 pm

Radiatia wrote:Sorry, call me ignorant, but what's the TVA?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_Valley_Authority

A publicly owned TDR New Deal conglomerate.
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Postby Radiatia » Thu May 16, 2013 10:23 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Radiatia wrote:Sorry, call me ignorant, but what's the TVA?


Tennessee Valley Authority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_Valley_Authority


Ohhhhhh! Yes, yes, I know what that is.

Sorry I'm terrible with abbreviations :lol:

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Postby Forster Keys » Thu May 16, 2013 10:23 pm

This thread is full of ninjas. *throws down smoke bomb*
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Postby Cosara » Thu May 16, 2013 10:23 pm

Libertarian California wrote:Fuck. Ninja'd by Nixon.

Nixon beat you all to it.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu May 16, 2013 10:23 pm

Forster Keys wrote:
Radiatia wrote:Sorry, call me ignorant, but what's the TVA?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_Valley_Authority

A publicly owned TDR New Deal conglomerate.


Ah yes, TDR. One of the better presidents ;)

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu May 16, 2013 10:24 pm

Libertarian California wrote:Fuck. Ninja'd by Nixon.


Nixon is the One.

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Postby SaintB » Thu May 16, 2013 10:24 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:Republicans are against privatising something? :blink:

Because Obama did it.
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