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Postby Khadgar » Fri May 17, 2013 6:19 am

New Chalcedon wrote:
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Yeah this is really confusing...


Not really. Obama's proposing it, so the Republicans are against it - even if they were for it for decades until the minute before Obama proposed it.

Frankly, this entire sad episode is emblematic of two things:

(1) Obama's sad and sorry desire to capitulate at every turn in order to be the "adult" in the room; and
(2) The GOP's inability to take "Yes" for an answer.



I hold out hope that he's trolling them. Fading hope I'll admit.

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Postby Greed and Death » Fri May 17, 2013 7:52 am

New Chalcedon wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
Yeah this is really confusing...


Not really. Obama's proposing it, so the Republicans are against it - even if they were for it for decades until the minute before Obama proposed it.

Frankly, this entire sad episode is emblematic of two things:

(1) Obama's sad and sorry desire to capitulate at every turn in order to be the "adult" in the room; and
(2) The GOP's inability to take "Yes" for an answer.

Give the Republicans a few months to find energy companies willing to funnel kick backs into their super PACs and they may say yes later. You can't surprise the Republicans with what they want like this they need time to turn the privatization into election funds.
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Postby Choronzon » Fri May 17, 2013 7:56 am

Khadgar wrote:
New Chalcedon wrote:
Not really. Obama's proposing it, so the Republicans are against it - even if they were for it for decades until the minute before Obama proposed it.

Frankly, this entire sad episode is emblematic of two things:

(1) Obama's sad and sorry desire to capitulate at every turn in order to be the "adult" in the room; and
(2) The GOP's inability to take "Yes" for an answer.



I hold out hope that he's trolling them. Fading hope I'll admit.

He had to know that the GOP would refuse. There is no way the congressman from Tennessee away were going to not raise a stink about this. I think the notion that he's doing this to prove a point may have some standing.

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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Fri May 17, 2013 9:26 am

Libertarian California wrote:I can get behind the president on this.


So...you hate economic freedom and individual liberty?
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Postby Arkolon » Fri May 17, 2013 9:34 am

Kvatchdom wrote:Republicans are against privatising something? :blink:


Republican logic:

If Obama/homosexuals/muslims/young people/Communists/Europeans/Non-Uhmurrikans does/do it, we're against it.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri May 17, 2013 9:38 am

Arkolon wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Republicans are against privatising something? :blink:


Republican logic:

If Obama/homosexuals/muslims/young people/Communists/Europeans/Non-Uhmurrikans does/do it, we're against it.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri May 17, 2013 9:38 am

Arkolon wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Republicans are against privatising something? :blink:


Republican logic:

If Obama/homosexuals/muslims/young people/Communists/Europeans/Non-Uhmurrikans does/do it, we're against it.


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Postby Arkolon » Fri May 17, 2013 9:42 am

Gauthier wrote:
Arkolon wrote:
Republican logic:

If Obama/homosexuals/muslims/young people/Communists/Europeans/Non-Uhmurrikans does/do it, we're against it.


If Obama declared his love for Ayn Rand, Paul Ryan would suddenly declare himself a Classic Marxist.


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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Fri May 17, 2013 9:43 am

Gauthier wrote:
Arkolon wrote:
Republican logic:

If Obama/homosexuals/muslims/young people/Communists/Europeans/Non-Uhmurrikans does/do it, we're against it.


If Obama declared his love for Ayn Rand,

By Ayn Rand, I assume you mean the eminent twentieth-century Russian-American philosopher?
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Postby Gauthier » Fri May 17, 2013 9:45 am

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
If Obama declared his love for Ayn Rand,

By Ayn Rand, I assume you mean the eminent twentieth-century Russian-American philosopher?


I actually meant the White House pastry chef.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 17, 2013 9:45 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Arkolon wrote:
Republican logic:

If Obama/homosexuals/muslims/young people/Communists/Europeans/Non-Uhmurrikans does/do it, we're against it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v3etuIw-aM

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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 17, 2013 9:46 am

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
If Obama declared his love for Ayn Rand,

By Ayn Rand, I assume you mean the eminent twentieth-century Russian-American philosopher?

Perhaps you should familiarise yourself with her works.

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Postby Luveria » Fri May 17, 2013 9:48 am


The theme song of the republican party.
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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Fri May 17, 2013 9:50 am

Ifreann wrote:
Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:By Ayn Rand, I assume you mean the eminent twentieth-century Russian-American philosopher?

Perhaps you should familiarise yourself with her works.


That is something I would do well to do.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri May 17, 2013 10:25 am

Forster Keys wrote:If a Republican suggested this it'd be condemned to kingdom come,

Oh, Alternate Reality, when will you get your shit together?
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Postby Choronzon » Fri May 17, 2013 10:27 am

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
If Obama declared his love for Ayn Rand,

By Ayn Rand, I assume you mean the eminent twentieth-century Russian-American philosopher?

You should familiarize yourself with her writings.

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri May 17, 2013 10:33 am

Choronzon wrote:
Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:By Ayn Rand, I assume you mean the eminent twentieth-century Russian-American philosopher?

You should familiarize yourself with her writings.

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Postby Pope Joan » Fri May 17, 2013 11:11 am

Forster Keys wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Republicans are against privatising something? :blink:


Yeah this is really confusing...


True, I really don't get it.

But then I think this is a good idea, so maybe I am somehow a Republicant, except they disagree with me?
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Postby Tekania » Fri May 17, 2013 11:17 am

Reichsland wrote:First off, if this thread already exists I am sorry for creating a duplicate. I looked and didn't see one, so I went with it.
Now for the good stuff, in President Obama's latest budget proposal, he proposed selling off the TVA.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/16/obama-tva_n_3090958.html

I don't think the federal government should sell it. I am biased though because of two reasons. 1) My dad works for TVA as a Foreman of a Line Crew. Hes been there 26 years and its always been a good job for him. You grow up around it, and I suppose it grows on you. 2) Here shortly, I will be going to Lineman Training down at Bellefonte and if I pass I will become employed by TVA. So it kind of worries me that if I did get a job, and it was sold, what would happen to mine and everyone else's jobs?

So what do you think NSG, should we sell the TVA, or should we keep this part of the New Deal alive and kicking?


I think the controversy has highlighted the lengths the GOP will go to to simply oppose Obama..... We need Obama to start proposing bans on same-sex marriage, so we can get it legalized in all 50 states.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri May 17, 2013 11:38 am

Tekania wrote:
Reichsland wrote:First off, if this thread already exists I am sorry for creating a duplicate. I looked and didn't see one, so I went with it.
Now for the good stuff, in President Obama's latest budget proposal, he proposed selling off the TVA.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/16/obama-tva_n_3090958.html

I don't think the federal government should sell it. I am biased though because of two reasons. 1) My dad works for TVA as a Foreman of a Line Crew. Hes been there 26 years and its always been a good job for him. You grow up around it, and I suppose it grows on you. 2) Here shortly, I will be going to Lineman Training down at Bellefonte and if I pass I will become employed by TVA. So it kind of worries me that if I did get a job, and it was sold, what would happen to mine and everyone else's jobs?

So what do you think NSG, should we sell the TVA, or should we keep this part of the New Deal alive and kicking?



I think the controversy has highlighted the lengths the GOP will go to to simply oppose Obama..... We need Obama to start proposing bans on same-sex marriage, so we can get it legalized in all 50 states.


Don't forget to have Obama propose increasing defense spending and deregulation.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri May 17, 2013 11:43 am

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
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If Obama declared his love for Ayn Rand,

By Ayn Rand, I assume you mean the eminent twentieth-century Russian-American philosopher?

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Postby New Chalcedon » Sat May 18, 2013 2:03 am

Ifreann wrote:
Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:By Ayn Rand, I assume you mean the eminent twentieth-century Russian-American philosopher?

Perhaps you should familiarise yourself with her works.


Well, they are certainly not to be tossed aside lightly.
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Postby Luveria » Sat May 18, 2013 2:05 am

Gauthier wrote:
Tekania wrote:

I think the controversy has highlighted the lengths the GOP will go to to simply oppose Obama..... We need Obama to start proposing bans on same-sex marriage, so we can get it legalized in all 50 states.


Don't forget to have Obama propose increasing defense spending and deregulation.

Obama already did increase defence spending.

“Over the next 10 years, the growth in the defense budget will slow, but the fact of the matter is this: It will still grow, because we have global responsibilities that demand our leadership. In fact, the defense budget will still be larger than it was toward the end of the Bush administration.”
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Postby New Catalonia » Sat May 18, 2013 2:07 am

Hang on, wait...

A Democrat President wants to sell off a public asset and the Republicans oppose it?!

What the hell is happening to the world?!?! :unsure:
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Postby New Chalcedon » Sat May 18, 2013 2:10 am

Luveria wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Don't forget to have Obama propose increasing defense spending and deregulation.

Obama already did increase defence spending.

“Over the next 10 years, the growth in the defense budget will slow, but the fact of the matter is this: It will still grow, because we have global responsibilities that demand our leadership. In fact, the defense budget will still be larger than it was toward the end of the Bush administration.”
— President Obama


But he's weak on security! Sean Hannity said so, so I know it's true! *nods*

New Catalonia wrote:Hang on, wait...

A Democrat President wants to sell off a public asset and the Republicans oppose it?!

What the hell is happening to the world?!?! :unsure:


Democrats haven't been liberals for the last 20+ years as far as economics is concerned, and their social liberalism is only permitted because it doesn't hurt Wall Street.
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