China lays claim to Okinawa as territory dispute with Japan

[The God-Realm]

He did, said he does not post so the biased ebil mauds wont deat him.

They are not THAT bad, granted the mods dislike me but they do their job well.

Ooh, so capitalists wishing for deaths of other members of NSG shouldn't be mod-traced and deleted.

Once again, I must say I love how your twisted mind work, Dok.

Juche isnt capitalism it is socialist self reliance of the state.

[Ganos Lao]

I dont actually want to raze Japan. (Not all of it at any rate)

Define "not all of it".

[The God-Realm]

I dont actually want to raze Japan. (Not all of it at any rate)

Define "not all of it".

Probably only the evil cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

[Gigaverse]

Ooh, so capitalists wishing for deaths of other members of NSG shouldn't be mod-traced and deleted.

Once again, I must say I love how your twisted mind work, Dok.

Juche isnt capitalism it is socialist self reliance of the state.

No, I mean that's how Dok thinks the mods are.

But... let's just keep this on topic, shall we?

[Gigaverse]

I dont actually want to raze Japan. (Not all of it at any rate)

Define "not all of it".

It's another way to say "99.999999999999999999999999% percent of it".

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

Define "not all of it".

It's another way to say "99.999999999999999999999999% percent of it".

While we're at it lets also do the same to other countries who "murdered people and raped women"
Pretty much most of the world will be doomed..

[The God-Realm]

It's another way to say "99.999999999999999999999999% percent of it".

While we're at it lets also do the same to other countries who "murdered people and raped women"
Pretty much most of the world will be doomed..

Switzerland is saved.

[Ganos Lao]

It's another way to say "99.999999999999999999999999% percent of it".

While we're at it lets also do the same to other countries who "murdered people and raped women"
Pretty much most of the world will be doomed..

So begins the Imperium of Penguins.

[Solmakia]

Define "not all of it".

It's another way to say "99.999999999999999999999999% percent of it".

Ah, so close bro.
No. Only the densely populated areas and the mainland.
The Islands will be left alone.

[Gigaverse]

It's another way to say "99.999999999999999999999999% percent of it".

Ah, so close bro.
No. Only the densely populated areas and the mainland.
The Islands will be left alone.

So that still means you wanted the deaths of millions and the rapes of others.

Why am I, again, not surprised?

[New England and The Maritimes]

To be quite honest, calling Okinawa "Chinese" is even more absurd than calling Gotland "German."

[The God-Realm]

To be quite honest, calling Okinawa "Chinese" is even more absurd than calling Gotland "German."

Gotland is not contested though.

[Ironrite]

To be quite honest, calling Okinawa "Chinese" is even more absurd than calling Gotland "German."

Gotland is not contested though.

Neither should Okinawa be...

[Saiwania]

China knows that it now has the military might and economic power on the world stage and is getting land hungry, a sort of victory disease they are having. Only China is shrewdly going after nations weaker than itself and isn't laying any claim to countries which are in a position to effectively retaliate like say, Russia. I interpret this as China testing how far it is able to go with territorial acquisition before it encounters any substantial resistance to those plans.

China knows that it will eventually get Taiwan, and is setting its sights on picking as much land off of its neighbors as possible. They will not be stopped unless all of the targeted nations including the other world powers join forces and take a stand against Chinese aggression. There needs to be a "firm line in the sand" established for China to not cross.

[Arumdaum]

To be quite honest, calling Okinawa "Chinese" is even more absurd than calling Gotland "German."

Gotland is not contested though.

China isn't really seriously claiming Okinawa I think, aren't they just trying to strengthen their claim to the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands?

[Gigaverse]

Gotland is not contested though.

China isn't really seriously claiming Okinawa I think, aren't they just trying to strengthen their claim to the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands?

The safest assumption, in this case, is probably the most pessimistic.

[Fruition (Ancient)]

Gotland is not contested though.

China isn't really seriously claiming Okinawa I think, aren't they just trying to strengthen their claim to the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands?

China wants to claim everything. Trust me, this is just the stepping stone.

[NERVUN]

China isn't really seriously claiming Okinawa I think, aren't they just trying to strengthen their claim to the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands?

The safest assumption, in this case, is probably the most pessimistic.

It is more likely the Senkakus. After all, the Senkaku are a part of Okinawa (and are close to them). Should Japan's claims to Okinawa be weaken, how much weaker would their claims on the Senkaku be?

Not to mention trying to kickstart an independence movement would give Tokyo something close to home to worry about.

[Fruition (Ancient)]

The safest assumption, in this case, is probably the most pessimistic.

It is more likely the Senkakus. After all, the Senkaku are a part of Okinawa (and are close to them). Should Japan's claims to Okinawa be weaken, how much weaker would their claims on the Senkaku be?

Not to mention trying to kickstart an independence movement would give Tokyo something close to home to worry about.

Would you say Japan drives out the Chinese in those islands?

[Avenio]

China knows that it now has the military might and economic power on the world stage and is getting land hungry, a sort of victory disease they are having. Only China is shrewdly going after nations weaker than itself and isn't laying any claim to nations which are in a position to effectively retaliate like say, Russia. I interpret this as China testing how far it is able to go with territorial acquisition before it encounters any substantial resistance to those plans.

How naive of you to think that this is remotely possible.

This isn't the 12th century any more. Nations don't go on wars of conquest anymore - and most likely can't to any real degree. War is probably more expensive now than it ever has been, and considering how globalized China's economy has become, any wars of conquest would give the rest of the world every excuse to place strict sanctions on them and cut off trade completely, which would be a mortal blow to their economy.

They learned the same lesson the US is learning; you can get a lot more of what you want with back room dealings and soft power than you can with military aggression.

This is just posturing, nothing more. Something to rile up their populace and stoke patriotic fervour.

[Fruition (Ancient)]

China knows that it now has the military might and economic power on the world stage and is getting land hungry, a sort of victory disease they are having. Only China is shrewdly going after nations weaker than itself and isn't laying any claim to nations which are in a position to effectively retaliate like say, Russia. I interpret this as China testing how far it is able to go with territorial acquisition before it encounters any substantial resistance to those plans.

How naive of you to think that this is remotely possible.

This isn't the 12th century any more. Nations don't go on wars of conquest anymore - and most likely can't to any real degree. War is probably more expensive now than it ever has been, and considering how globalized China's economy has become, any wars of conquest would give the rest of the world every excuse to place strict sanctions on them and cut off trade completely, which would be a mortal blow to their economy.

They learned the same lesson the US is learning; you can get a lot more of what you want with back room dealings and soft power than you can with military aggression.

This is just posturing, nothing more. Something to rile up their populace and stoke patriotic fervour.

Exactly. Why should China be engaging in such a barbaric, humiliating act? Right on.

[Gigaverse]

China knows that it now has the military might and economic power on the world stage and is getting land hungry, a sort of victory disease they are having. Only China is shrewdly going after nations weaker than itself and isn't laying any claim to nations which are in a position to effectively retaliate like say, Russia. I interpret this as China testing how far it is able to go with territorial acquisition before it encounters any substantial resistance to those plans.

How naive of you to think that this is remotely possible.

This isn't the 12th century any more. Nations don't go on wars of conquest anymore - and most likely can't to any real degree. War is probably more expensive now than it ever has been, and considering how globalized China's economy has become, any wars of conquest would give the rest of the world every excuse to place strict sanctions on them and cut off trade completely, which would be a mortal blow to their economy.

They learned the same lesson the US is learning; you can get a lot more of what you want with back room dealings and soft power than you can with military aggression.

This is just posturing, nothing more. Something to rile up their populace and stoke patriotic fervour.

You could be right, but my constant paranoia prevented me from effectively believing you.

[Fruition (Ancient)]

How naive of you to think that this is remotely possible.

This isn't the 12th century any more. Nations don't go on wars of conquest anymore - and most likely can't to any real degree. War is probably more expensive now than it ever has been, and considering how globalized China's economy has become, any wars of conquest would give the rest of the world every excuse to place strict sanctions on them and cut off trade completely, which would be a mortal blow to their economy.

They learned the same lesson the US is learning; you can get a lot more of what you want with back room dealings and soft power than you can with military aggression.

This is just posturing, nothing more. Something to rile up their populace and stoke patriotic fervour.

You could be right, but my constant paranoia prevented me from effectively believing you.

Why would you be paranoid?

[Gigaverse]

You could be right, but my constant paranoia prevented me from effectively believing you.

Why would you be paranoid?

I'm a conspiracy theorists. People like that are constantly paranoid.

[Fruition (Ancient)]

Why would you be paranoid?

I'm a conspiracy theorists. People like that are constantly paranoid.

Good thing I'm not. Best of luck in your endeavours.