China lays claim to Okinawa as territory dispute with Japan

[Ganos Lao]

NS Summer is upon us all

I call it eternal summer as it appears earlier and earlier every year.

It has always been summer around here.

[The Nuclear Fist]

We're working on the Mainland first, then we simply assume that those portion would naturally flock to us because of our national pristage.

That's an awful lot of assumptions. Poor assumptions, at that. Let's assume they don't. Let's assume they prefer the way things are, rather than joining up with a war ravaged China (and it would be ravaged). How does a hypothetical KMT-led China respond?

As for the stupidity of restoring Republican control, we need to first start by establishing a base amongst mainlanders, then using them, and our own forces, to overthrow the Commies.

Ah, so you've got no legs to stand on.

[The Nuclear Fist]

They are all dirty Commies, and why America must take away their seat from the UN and give it back to the legitimate government of China.

That is, quite literally, impossible.

[Ganos Lao]

It's gonna take more than that to convince me.

You have to provide details about these differences. Every proposition must have collaborating evidence to back it up.

http://www.axl.cefan.ulaval.ca/europe/franco-normand.htm

Notice how the French, Jerrais, and Guernesiais hardly differ.

So why don't you provide an English source for the people here who don't speak French.

Do you speak French, mate?

[Solmakia]

I personally don't really give a fuck about the land disputes, but I'm siding with China on this one because the forced prostitution of women from Korea and China was not at all necessary, and was just cruel and abusive. I can't stand those Japs trying to make excuses. Accept that you guys fucked up, and move on. Don't keep trying to make yourselves seem like the angels, because you weren't; you were monsters.
Yes, I know that Japan did officially apologize, but I'm not believing that it was sincere. I personally believe them to be monsters, but I also realize that not all Japanese people are like that, and in fact, most Japanese people are decent human beings. The deniers, on the other hand, are just like Holocaust deniers.

[Ganos Lao]

They are all dirty Commies, and why America must take away their seat from the UN and give it back to the legitimate government of China.

That is, quite literally, impossible.

TGN's been claiming that the world ought to return - in terms of boundaries - to what it was like in 1763 with the signing of the Treaty of Paris.

So the ROC wouldn't even be the legitimate government of China, because by that logic, it'd be some old dynasty that would be.

[The Godly Nations]

We're working on the Mainland first, then we simply assume that those portion would naturally flock to us because of our national pristage.

That's an awful lot of assumptions. Poor assumptions, at that. Let's assume they don't. Let's assume they prefer the way things are, rather than joining up with a war ravaged China (and it would be ravaged). How does a hypothetical KMT-led China respond?

As for the stupidity of restoring Republican control, we need to first start by establishing a base amongst mainlanders, then using them, and our own forces, to overthrow the Commies.

Ah, so you've got no legs to stand on.

We'll cross that bridge when we get there, for now, we must concern ourselves with immediate issues- like the economy, and how to conquer the Mainland, all that.

[The Godly Nations]

They are all dirty Commies, and why America must take away their seat from the UN and give it back to the legitimate government of China.

That is, quite literally, impossible.

One can still dream, one can still dream.

[Solmakia]

That is, quite literally, impossible.

One can still dream, one can still dream.

^this

[The Godly Nations]

That is, quite literally, impossible.

TGN's been claiming that the world ought to return - in terms of boundaries - to what it was like in 1763 with the signing of the Treaty of Paris.

So the ROC wouldn't even be the legitimate government of China, because by that logic, it'd be some old dynasty that would be.

Qing,

[Gigaverse]

Well, the "Communists" on the mainland are no more communist than you are. Facts true by May 17, 2013.

They are all dirty Commies, and why America must take away their seat from the UN and give it back to the legitimate government of China.

I see no difference between the Mainland Commies and the Island Nazis. Both are not legitimate representatives of China and the Chinese people, judging many aspects. Until a proper Revolution or Preemptive Strike against either or both takes place, I refuse to recognize both the "People's Nation" and "People's Republic".

That aside, Nazi America isn't the owner of the UN - they couldn't afford take away the UN seat from their biggest debtor and give it to a tiny regime of "just-that-bad's"; that'd make a Cold War.

[Ganos Lao]

I personally don't really give a fuck about the land disputes, but I'm siding with China on this one because the forced prostitution of women from Korea and China was not at all necessary, and was just cruel and abusive. I can't stand those Japs trying to make excuses. Accept that you guys fucked up, and move on. Don't keep trying to make yourselves seem like the angels, because you weren't; you were monsters.
Yes, I know that Japan did officially apologize, but I'm not believing that it was sincere. I personally believe them to be monsters, but I also realize that not all Japanese people are like that, and in fact, most Japanese people are decent human beings. The deniers, on the other hand, are just like Holocaust deniers.

What does any of this have to do with the Imperial Japanese Army's actions in WWII? This is about Okinawa and its status centuries before WWII began.

[Arumdaum]

That is, quite literally, impossible.

TGN's been claiming that the world ought to return - in terms of boundaries - to what it was like in 1763 with the signing of the Treaty of Paris.

So the ROC wouldn't even be the legitimate government of China, because by that logic, it'd be some old dynasty that would be.

It's funny because in 1763 China wasn't even ruled by Chinese people.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

That's China for you,they claim asia in the name of the Chinese civilization!

Well, they were the first to see the moon so its inherently a Chinese territory belonging to the Chinese people *nods*

This bullying and aggressive actions of China will bounce back to them, I am sure of that.

Whoever's going to teach them a lesson, it's not going to be the US.
http://www.mossekongen.no/downloads/200 ... iefing.pdf

[The Nuclear Fist]

We'll cross that bridge when we get there, for now, we must concern ourselves with immediate issues- like the economy, and how to conquer the Mainland, all that.

Stop dodging the question. If the Taiwanese conquer mainland China, but the ROC clains in other nations (and Tibet) don't want any part of China, what does the KMT government do?

How does it respond?

Personally, I'm beginning to suspect you'd just support invading them.

[Ganos Lao]

TGN's been claiming that the world ought to return - in terms of boundaries - to what it was like in 1763 with the signing of the Treaty of Paris.

So the ROC wouldn't even be the legitimate government of China, because by that logic, it'd be some old dynasty that would be.

Qing,

Exactly. The ROC wouldn't be able to hold any legitimate authority in China, then, because the Qing Dynasty would be the sole legitimate authority if we used your logic.

On that note, we better tell Japan's leaders to move out of their offices. Got to restore the Shogunate, after all.

[The Nuclear Fist]

That is, quite literally, impossible.

One can still dream, one can still dream.

It's a very stupid dream.

[The Godly Nations]

They are all dirty Commies, and why America must take away their seat from the UN and give it back to the legitimate government of China.

I see no difference between the Mainland Commies and the Island Nazis. Both are not legitimate representatives of China and the Chinese people, judging many aspects. Until a proper Revolution or Preemptive Strike against either or both takes place, I refuse to recognize both the "People's Nation" and "People's Republic".

That aside, Nazi America isn't the owner of the UN - they couldn't afford take away the UN seat from their biggest debtor and give it to a tiny regime of "just-that-bad's"; that'd make a Cold War.

No, the KMT stopped with the whole Nazi-oppression thing a long time ago, we are now more open to Democracy, as Dr Sun Yat-Sen would have wanted.

[Ganos Lao]

TGN's been claiming that the world ought to return - in terms of boundaries - to what it was like in 1763 with the signing of the Treaty of Paris.

So the ROC wouldn't even be the legitimate government of China, because by that logic, it'd be some old dynasty that would be.

It's funny because in 1763 China wasn't even ruled by Chinese people.

I brought this sort of thing up earlier in the thread when I posed the question of "well, by the Chinese general's logic, does this mean the Mongols can return to rule China?"

I mean, why not, right? The Mongols got tribute from China long ago, therefore, China is theirs by rights.

[The Nuclear Fist]

TGN's been claiming that the world ought to return - in terms of boundaries - to what it was like in 1763 with the signing of the Treaty of Paris.

So the ROC wouldn't even be the legitimate government of China, because by that logic, it'd be some old dynasty that would be.

What would that possibly achieve?

[Gigaverse]

I personally don't really give a fuck about the land disputes, but I'm siding with China on this one because the forced prostitution of women from Korea and China was not at all necessary, and was just cruel and abusive. I can't stand those Japs trying to make excuses. Accept that you guys fucked up, and move on. Don't keep trying to make yourselves seem like the angels, because you weren't; you were monsters.
Yes, I know that Japan did officially apologize, but I'm not believing that it was sincere. I personally believe them to be monsters, but I also realize that not all Japanese people are like that, and in fact, most Japanese people are decent human beings. The deniers, on the other hand, are just like Holocaust deniers.

...

So you're saying that you'd support someone who would readily repeat most of whatever Japan did in WWII all over again?

[The Godly Nations]

We'll cross that bridge when we get there, for now, we must concern ourselves with immediate issues- like the economy, and how to conquer the Mainland, all that.

Stop dodging the question. If the Taiwanese conquer mainland China, but the ROC clains in other nations (and Tibet) don't want any part of China, what does the KMT government do?

How does it respond?

Personally, I'm beginning to suspect you'd just support invading them.

I said that we are not focus on those issues simply because of the more pressing issue of conquering the mainland and expelling the Commies.

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

I personally don't really give a fuck about the land disputes, but I'm siding with China on this one because the forced prostitution of women from Korea and China was not at all necessary, and was just cruel and abusive. I can't stand those Japs trying to make excuses. Accept that you guys fucked up, and move on. Don't keep trying to make yourselves seem like the angels, because you weren't; you were monsters.
Yes, I know that Japan did officially apologize, but I'm not believing that it was sincere. I personally believe them to be monsters, but I also realize that not all Japanese people are like that, and in fact, most Japanese people are decent human beings. The deniers, on the other hand, are just like Holocaust deniers.

May I ask what this have to do with the ridiculous claim of mainland China to Japanese territory of Okinawa?

[The Godly Nations]

One can still dream, one can still dream.

It's a very stupid dream.

A beautiful dream, and we must all start somewhere- Democracy was a dream once as well.

[Ganos Lao]

TGN's been claiming that the world ought to return - in terms of boundaries - to what it was like in 1763 with the signing of the Treaty of Paris.

So the ROC wouldn't even be the legitimate government of China, because by that logic, it'd be some old dynasty that would be.

What would that possibly achieve?

I'm not saying it'd achieve anything - I'm making an observation based on what TGN's been posting in this thread. He actually did say that he supports the world going back to the way it was in 1763 and all, so I figured, heh, might as well point out that it'd be impossible to support such a venture and then go "ROC FUCK YEAH!"