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Postby Aryavartha » Thu May 16, 2013 9:25 pm

chinese call this 'peaceful rise' which is more like 'pissful rise' where they just piss on their neighbors.

make an outrageous claim, and be stubborn about it, and then offer to retract it in exchange for something elsewhere. standard PRC technique that is used all the time with india.

IOW, what's mine in mine, lets negotiate for what you have.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu May 16, 2013 9:26 pm

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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 9:28 pm

NERVUN wrote:It wouldn't have gotten published at all if the leadership didn't agree with it, not to mention the Ministry of Foreign Affairs didn't disown it either when asked.



It is the opinion of two people, it doesn't mean that the leadership agrees with it simply because it is printed. It is, it seems to me, printed simply because it is wildly nationalistic, and it is not disowned because of that very same reason.

A Chinese military official said that he thinks that Avian Flu is a American conspiracy against the helpless Chinese, I doubt that that entire government owned to that belief, yet, they published it, if I remembered correctly, and didn't seem to disavow it, because it had a purpose- to direct hatred against the Americans. This, too, it seems, is more or less simply nationalistic rambling, that the higher officials may not even take seriously.
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Postby Norstal » Thu May 16, 2013 9:29 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
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Were the Japanese historically originated from Chinese roots?




*holding back something that is about to come out of my mouth*(I didn't say what.)

The people of Japan are generally thought to have arrived from Korea and from Southeast Asia, possibly some from Sakhalin.

Pretty sure they came from pretty much everywhere from the Eastern seaboard of Asia.

It's like, the U.S of Asia! And then they got terribly xenophobic...
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 9:30 pm

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Spiritwolf wrote:The Chinese are simply going to eventually push the Japanese back into what the Japanese people have always been over the ages.......... a strong, fearless, aggressively fierce militaristic culture that will show no weakness, will not give nor ask for any quarter, and will absolutely fuck China up. The dawn of the age of the modern Samurai draws near and his blade thirsts for the blood of the enemies of Japan.


This is one of the funnier things I've read in NSG. Yeah, Japan is going to take on China with its declining birth rate, aging workforce, overwhelming national debt, and export-based economy that relies on Chinese markets. Not only that, but the average Japanese person is getting lonelier and less likely to marry and have children. Good luck building a military capable of challenging the PRC.

With regards to the article, the PRC did not make the claims directly and I don't see an issue with it if they did. I like how outraged and offened NSGers seem when they read this shit. Nobody really gives a shit what the PRC claims. It's like how the RoC claims all of mainland China.


I agree with the KMT's claim to all of China, and we will eventually chase those Communist bandits out, and reestablish the Republics control over the entirety of China.

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Postby Norstal » Thu May 16, 2013 9:31 pm

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Arumdaum wrote:Except that Chinese isn't even really a language. Never said that it was a language. They're both their own language families.


It is a language. The Chinese consider themselves speaking a single language, and they consider the various dialects as just that, dialects.

Then why do they call it Mandarin and Cantonese and not just "Chinese"?
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Postby NERVUN » Thu May 16, 2013 9:31 pm

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NERVUN wrote:It wouldn't have gotten published at all if the leadership didn't agree with it, not to mention the Ministry of Foreign Affairs didn't disown it either when asked.



It is the opinion of two people, it doesn't mean that the leadership agrees with it simply because it is printed. It is, it seems to me, printed simply because it is wildly nationalistic, and it is not disowned because of that very same reason.

A Chinese military official said that he thinks that Avian Flu is a American conspiracy against the helpless Chinese, I doubt that that entire government owned to that belief, yet, they published it, if I remembered correctly, and didn't seem to disavow it, because it had a purpose- to direct hatred against the Americans. This, too, it seems, is more or less simply nationalistic rambling, that the higher officials may not even take seriously.

It's also not the first time China has done this, not only with Okinawa and Japan, but other nations.

Forgive me for doubting that this was two out of control academics who aren't getting a *wink wink nudge nudge* from the CCP while doing so.
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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 16, 2013 9:32 pm

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This is one of the funnier things I've read in NSG. Yeah, Japan is going to take on China with its declining birth rate, aging workforce, overwhelming national debt, and export-based economy that relies on Chinese markets. Not only that, but the average Japanese person is getting lonelier and less likely to marry and have children. Good luck building a military capable of challenging the PRC.

With regards to the article, the PRC did not make the claims directly and I don't see an issue with it if they did. I like how outraged and offened NSGers seem when they read this shit. Nobody really gives a shit what the PRC claims. It's like how the RoC claims all of mainland China.


I agree with the KMT's claim to all of China, and we will eventually chase those Communist bandits out, and reestablish the Republics control over the entirety of China.

By that you mean this?
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Postby NERVUN » Thu May 16, 2013 9:32 pm

Norstal wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:The people of Japan are generally thought to have arrived from Korea and from Southeast Asia, possibly some from Sakhalin.

Pretty sure they came from pretty much everywhere from the Eastern seaboard of Asia.

It's like, the U.S of Asia! And then they got terribly xenophobic...

Eh, depends on when.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 9:32 pm

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It is a language. The Chinese consider themselves speaking a single language, and they consider the various dialects as just that, dialects.

Then why do they call it Mandarin and Cantonese and not just "Chinese"?


They don't, 'Putonghua' simply means 'Common Speech' and 'Guangdonghua' Guang-zhou speech

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Thu May 16, 2013 9:32 pm

The Godly Nations wrote:I agree with the KMT's claim to all of China, and we will eventually chase those Communist bandits out, and reestablish the Republics control over the entirety of China.

Taiwan isn't going to do anything like that. It simply does not have the power.
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Postby Norstal » Thu May 16, 2013 9:33 pm

NERVUN wrote:
The Godly Nations wrote:

It is the opinion of two people, it doesn't mean that the leadership agrees with it simply because it is printed. It is, it seems to me, printed simply because it is wildly nationalistic, and it is not disowned because of that very same reason.

A Chinese military official said that he thinks that Avian Flu is a American conspiracy against the helpless Chinese, I doubt that that entire government owned to that belief, yet, they published it, if I remembered correctly, and didn't seem to disavow it, because it had a purpose- to direct hatred against the Americans. This, too, it seems, is more or less simply nationalistic rambling, that the higher officials may not even take seriously.

It's also not the first time China has done this, not only with Okinawa and Japan, but other nations.

Forgive me for doubting that this was two out of control academics who aren't getting a *wink wink nudge nudge* from the CCP while doing so.

"Sir, there's an anti-Japanese riot outside."
"Oh, let them have their fun."

It's really obvious when they have an agenda or not.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 9:33 pm

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I agree with the KMT's claim to all of China, and we will eventually chase those Communist bandits out, and reestablish the Republics control over the entirety of China.

By that you mean this?


That, exactly. We'll have to get rid of the Communist Bandits first.

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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 9:35 pm

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It's also not the first time China has done this, not only with Okinawa and Japan, but other nations.

Forgive me for doubting that this was two out of control academics who aren't getting a *wink wink nudge nudge* from the CCP while doing so.


No, I am saying that they published it because it has useful propaganda purposes at home, not because they believe that they really should own Okinawa, or are really going to base their foriegn policy on that claim.
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Postby Gigaverse » Thu May 16, 2013 9:36 pm

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Arumdaum wrote:By that you mean this?


That, exactly. We'll have to get rid of the Communist Bandits first.

Oh look, how amazingly impressive: A staunch Chinese nationalist expansionist not-so-much-different-than-Communist-Chinese war advocate. Why am I not surprised?
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 9:36 pm

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The Godly Nations wrote:I agree with the KMT's claim to all of China, and we will eventually chase those Communist bandits out, and reestablish the Republics control over the entirety of China.

Taiwan isn't going to do anything like that. It simply does not have the power.


They Republic of China will one day reestablish its control over lands stolen by the Communist bandits. We must simply keep an optimistic heart.

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Postby Norstal » Thu May 16, 2013 9:37 pm

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Norstal wrote:Then why do they call it Mandarin and Cantonese and not just "Chinese"?


They don't, 'Putonghua' simply means 'Common Speech' and 'Guangdonghua' Guang-zhou speech

Well, I mean, they are technically dialects, but that being a dialect doesn't mean that it's a separate language.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 9:37 pm

Gigaverse wrote:Oh look, how amazingly impressive: A staunch Chinese nationalist expansionist not-so-much-different-than-Communist-Chinese war advocate. Why am I not surprised?


Nope, we're worlds apart- for one, we are Capitalists. Secondly, Freedom and Democracy.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 9:38 pm

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They don't, 'Putonghua' simply means 'Common Speech' and 'Guangdonghua' Guang-zhou speech

Well, I mean, they are technically dialects, but that being a dialect doesn't mean that it's a separate language.


Most Chinese consider it as dialects of Chinese, rather than a different language.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Thu May 16, 2013 9:40 pm

The Godly Nations wrote:They Republic of China will one day reestablish its control over lands stolen by the Communist bandits. We must simply keep an optimistic heart.

Big difference between optimism and being stupid.

The idea of Taiwain conquering China is the latter.

More importantly, why should the non-Chinese lands go to these hypothetical Taiwanese bandits? Why should Mongolians, Russians, Tajiks, Tibetans, Afghanis, Pakistanis, Indians, and Burmese have their native citizenship stripped for the 'benefit' of some far off would-be conquerors?
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Postby Gigaverse » Thu May 16, 2013 9:41 pm

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Gigaverse wrote:Oh look, how amazingly impressive: A staunch Chinese nationalist expansionist not-so-much-different-than-Communist-Chinese war advocate. Why am I not surprised?


Nope, world's different- for one, we are Capitalists.

Well, the "Communists" on the mainland are no more communist than you are. Facts true by May 17, 2013.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Thu May 16, 2013 9:43 pm

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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 9:44 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
The Godly Nations wrote:They Republic of China will one day reestablish its control over lands stolen by the Communist bandits. We must simply keep an optimistic heart.

Big difference between optimism and being stupid.

The idea of Taiwain conquering China is the latter.

More importantly, why should the non-Chinese lands go to these hypothetical Taiwanese bandits? Why should Mongolians, Russians, Tajiks, Tibetans, Afghanis, Pakistanis, Indians, and Burmese have their native citizenship stripped for the 'benefit' of some far off would-be conquerors?


We're working on the Mainland first, then we simply assume that those portion would naturally flock to us because of our national pristage.

As for the stupidity of restoring Republican control, we need to first start by establishing a base amongst mainlanders, then using them, and our own forces, to overthrow the Commies.

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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 9:45 pm

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Nope, world's different- for one, we are Capitalists.

Well, the "Communists" on the mainland are no more communist than you are. Facts true by May 17, 2013.


They are all dirty Commies, and why America must take away their seat from the UN and give it back to the legitimate government of China.

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