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Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Thu May 16, 2013 8:20 pm

Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Next, they'll claim entire Japan.


Were the Japanese historically originated from Chinese roots?




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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Thu May 16, 2013 8:23 pm

Fruition wrote:
Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Next, they'll claim entire Japan.


Were the Japanese historically originated from Chinese roots?




*holding back something that is about to come out of my mouth*(I didn't say what.)

That is what's on my mind.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:33 pm

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Nope, there is very little difference between Norman French and standard French, especially when compared to the difference between Min dialects, and standard Mandarin. Norman French isn't even as deviant from Standard French, as Min dialects are from each other.

Chinese languages are not a valid basis of judgement on what constitutes a language and what is a dialect. Norman is separate language. As to differences between languages, see the earlier example of Swedish, Norwegian and Danish.


Chinese dialects are a valid basis for judgment, because the difference between Norman and Standard French is not enough to constitute a language. Yorkshire Dialect or Geordie is probably just as liable to call themselves a language if Norman calls itself a language seperate from French.

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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:34 pm

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When Norse invaders arrived in the then-province of Neustria and settled the land that became known as Normandy, they gradually adopted the Gallo-Romance speech of the existing populations – much as Norman rulers in England later adopted the speech of the administered people. There are Norse influences in the Norman language as a result, and in some cases, Norse words adopted in Norman have been borrowed into French – and more recently some of the English words used in French can be traced back to Norman origins.

Why all this pretense that Norman is separate from French if it's just a dialect of French?


Because it is not a language. It is not very different from standard French, and the amount of Norse words is probably only slightly more than the amount of Gallic words in Modern French.

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Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Thu May 16, 2013 8:34 pm

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Jetan wrote:Chinese languages are not a valid basis of judgement on what constitutes a language and what is a dialect. Norman is separate language. As to differences between languages, see the earlier example of Swedish, Norwegian and Danish.


Chinese dialects are a valid basis for judgment, because the difference between Norman and Standard French is not enough to constitute a language. Yorkshire Dialect or Geordie is probably just as liable to call themselves a language if Norman calls itself a language seperate from French.


There is already a version of a Chinese dialect called "Cantonese", which is used only locally.
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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 16, 2013 8:38 pm

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Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Next, they'll claim entire Japan.


Of course, once we chase the Communist Bandits from the Mainland, we'll start claiming you Japanese as well. Might as well restore some sanity there.

No, China won't. That'd be pretty ridiculous, and make China just look plain silly.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:40 pm

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Of course, once we chase the Communist Bandits from the Mainland, we'll start claiming you Japanese as well. Might as well restore some sanity there.

No, China won't. That'd be pretty ridiculous, and make China just look plain silly.


Not once we make Japan a province, or, at least, a tributary to the Republic.

Of course, we are only on the tentative stage so far, we still have to deal with the Communist Bandits of the mainland first.

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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:41 pm

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Chinese dialects are a valid basis for judgment, because the difference between Norman and Standard French is not enough to constitute a language. Yorkshire Dialect or Geordie is probably just as liable to call themselves a language if Norman calls itself a language seperate from French.


There is already a version of a Chinese dialect called "Cantonese", which is used only locally.



Nope, it is used in Guangdong, and a good portion of the overseas Chinese Community, as is Minnan, and Taishan.

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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 16, 2013 8:41 pm

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Arumdaum wrote:No, China won't. That'd be pretty ridiculous, and make China just look plain silly.


Not once we make Japan a province, or, at least, a tributary to the Republic.

Of course, we are only on the tentative stage so far, we still have to deal with the Communist Bandits of the mainland first.

Except that'll never happen...
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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 16, 2013 8:42 pm

Fruition wrote:
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Chinese dialects are a valid basis for judgment, because the difference between Norman and Standard French is not enough to constitute a language. Yorkshire Dialect or Geordie is probably just as liable to call themselves a language if Norman calls itself a language seperate from French.


There is already a version of a Chinese dialect called "Cantonese", which is used only locally.

It's not a dialect, but a completely different language from Mandarin, although the two are in the same Chinese language family. The speakers of the two languages don't understand each other at all. China's a lot more diverse than people think it is. Also, it's the dominant Chinese language for the Chinese who live overseas.
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Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Thu May 16, 2013 8:43 pm

The Godly Nations wrote:
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There is already a version of a Chinese dialect called "Cantonese", which is used only locally.



Nope, it is used in Guangdong, and a good portion of the overseas Chinese Community, as is Minnan, and Taishan.


Yeah.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:46 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
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Not once we make Japan a province, or, at least, a tributary to the Republic.

Of course, we are only on the tentative stage so far, we still have to deal with the Communist Bandits of the mainland first.

Except that'll never happen...


What'll never happen?

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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:46 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Fruition wrote:
There is already a version of a Chinese dialect called "Cantonese", which is used only locally.

It's not a dialect, but a completely different language from Mandarin, although the two are in the same Chinese language family. The speakers of the two languages don't understand each other at all. China's a lot more diverse than people think it is. Also, it's the dominant Chinese language for the Chinese who live overseas.


Except, it is a dialect of Chinese.

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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 16, 2013 8:46 pm

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Arumdaum wrote:Except that'll never happen...


What'll never happen?

Japan turning into a province of China after the Chinese conquest of Korea.
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:47 pm

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What'll never happen?

Japan turning into a province of China after the Chinese conquest of Korea.


No, we'll have to start with retaking the Mainland from the Communists, then we'll think about conquering Korea and Japan.

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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 16, 2013 8:47 pm

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Arumdaum wrote:It's not a dialect, but a completely different language from Mandarin, although the two are in the same Chinese language family. The speakers of the two languages don't understand each other at all. China's a lot more diverse than people think it is. Also, it's the dominant Chinese language for the Chinese who live overseas.


Except, it is a dialect of Chinese.

As much as French is a dialect of Indo-European.
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Postby Aethrys » Thu May 16, 2013 8:50 pm

Strykla wrote:I kind of feel like every other nation should be collectively yelling, "Fight! Fight! Fight!"


Japan is prepared to fight to the last american soldier.
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Postby Spiritwolf » Thu May 16, 2013 8:52 pm

The Chinese are simply going to eventually push the Japanese back into what the Japanese people have always been over the ages.......... a strong, fearless, aggressively fierce militaristic culture that will show no weakness, will not give nor ask for any quarter, and will absolutely fuck China up. The dawn of the age of the modern Samurai draws near and his blade thirsts for the blood of the enemies of Japan.

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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:52 pm

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Except, it is a dialect of Chinese.

As much as French is a dialect of Indo-European.


There is no such thing as a language called 'Indo-European'- that is a language Family. Chinese is part of the Sino-Tibetan language family.

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Postby Gigaverse » Thu May 16, 2013 8:54 pm

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Arumdaum wrote:Japan turning into a province of China after the Chinese conquest of Korea.


No, we'll have to start with retaking the Mainland from the Communists, then we'll think about conquering Korea and Japan.

Then which bellicose hellhole country are you found crawling from?
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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:55 pm

Spiritwolf wrote:The Chinese are simply going to eventually push the Japanese back into what the Japanese people have always been over the ages.......... a strong, fearless, aggressively fierce militaristic culture that will show no weakness, will not give nor ask for any quarter, and will absolutely fuck China up. The dawn of the age of the modern Samurai draws near and his blade thirsts for the blood of the enemies of Japan.


The Japanese blood, apperantly, is full of powerful warroir-ness, wholly lacking in weakness. Just as the blood of the Feudal Knights flow in the viens of the French, so too is the blood of the Samurai flowing in the viens of the Japanese, causing both these proud nations to be the mighty warriors they are. Japan, fearless warriors they are, still haven't done anything about those American bases, though.

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Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Thu May 16, 2013 8:55 pm

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Arumdaum wrote:Japan turning into a province of China after the Chinese conquest of Korea.


No, we'll have to start with retaking the Mainland from the Communists, then we'll think about conquering Korea and Japan.


Were you the guy I saw in pharmacy two days ago?


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Postby The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:56 pm

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No, we'll have to start with retaking the Mainland from the Communists, then we'll think about conquering Korea and Japan.

Then which bellicose hellhole country are you found crawling from?


They have pushed the Republic to the Formosan Islands, but we shall retake the mainland from the Communists.

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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 16, 2013 8:56 pm

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Arumdaum wrote:As much as French is a dialect of Indo-European.


There is no such thing as a language called 'Indo-European'- that is a language Family. Chinese is part of the Sino-Tibetan language family.

Except that Chinese isn't even really a language. Never said that it was a language. They're both their own language families.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Thu May 16, 2013 8:57 pm

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When Norse invaders arrived in the then-province of Neustria and settled the land that became known as Normandy, they gradually adopted the Gallo-Romance speech of the existing populations – much as Norman rulers in England later adopted the speech of the administered people. There are Norse influences in the Norman language as a result, and in some cases, Norse words adopted in Norman have been borrowed into French – and more recently some of the English words used in French can be traced back to Norman origins.

Why all this pretense that Norman is separate from French if it's just a dialect of French?


Because it is not a language. It is not very different from standard French, and the amount of Norse words is probably only slightly more than the amount of Gallic words in Modern French.


Norman is its own language, mate. Best accept it.

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Gigaverse wrote:Then which bellicose hellhole country are you found crawling from?


They have pushed the Republic to the Formosan Islands, but we shall retake the mainland from the Communists.


But that goes against the 1763 Consensus you advocated earlier in this thread, because the ROC did not exist at the time of the signing of the Treaty of Paris.



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