Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Next, they'll claim entire Japan.
Were the Japanese historically originated from Chinese roots?
*holding back something that is about to come out of my mouth*(I didn't say what.)
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by Fruition (Ancient) » Thu May 16, 2013 8:20 pm
Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Next, they'll claim entire Japan.

by Nationalist Eminral Republic » Thu May 16, 2013 8:23 pm
Federation of Eminral Republic|Pederasyon ng Republika ng Eminral
エミンラル共和連邦 | Federación de la República Eminral

by The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:33 pm
Jetan wrote:The Godly Nations wrote:
Nope, there is very little difference between Norman French and standard French, especially when compared to the difference between Min dialects, and standard Mandarin. Norman French isn't even as deviant from Standard French, as Min dialects are from each other.
Chinese languages are not a valid basis of judgement on what constitutes a language and what is a dialect. Norman is separate language. As to differences between languages, see the earlier example of Swedish, Norwegian and Danish.

by The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:34 pm
Ganos Lao wrote:
When Norse invaders arrived in the then-province of Neustria and settled the land that became known as Normandy, they gradually adopted the Gallo-Romance speech of the existing populations – much as Norman rulers in England later adopted the speech of the administered people. There are Norse influences in the Norman language as a result, and in some cases, Norse words adopted in Norman have been borrowed into French – and more recently some of the English words used in French can be traced back to Norman origins.
Why all this pretense that Norman is separate from French if it's just a dialect of French?

by Fruition (Ancient) » Thu May 16, 2013 8:34 pm
The Godly Nations wrote:Jetan wrote:Chinese languages are not a valid basis of judgement on what constitutes a language and what is a dialect. Norman is separate language. As to differences between languages, see the earlier example of Swedish, Norwegian and Danish.
Chinese dialects are a valid basis for judgment, because the difference between Norman and Standard French is not enough to constitute a language. Yorkshire Dialect or Geordie is probably just as liable to call themselves a language if Norman calls itself a language seperate from French.
by Arumdaum » Thu May 16, 2013 8:38 pm

by The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:40 pm

by The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:41 pm
Fruition wrote:The Godly Nations wrote:
Chinese dialects are a valid basis for judgment, because the difference between Norman and Standard French is not enough to constitute a language. Yorkshire Dialect or Geordie is probably just as liable to call themselves a language if Norman calls itself a language seperate from French.
There is already a version of a Chinese dialect called "Cantonese", which is used only locally.
by Arumdaum » Thu May 16, 2013 8:41 pm
The Godly Nations wrote:Arumdaum wrote:No, China won't. That'd be pretty ridiculous, and make China just look plain silly.
Not once we make Japan a province, or, at least, a tributary to the Republic.
Of course, we are only on the tentative stage so far, we still have to deal with the Communist Bandits of the mainland first.
by Arumdaum » Thu May 16, 2013 8:42 pm
Fruition wrote:The Godly Nations wrote:
Chinese dialects are a valid basis for judgment, because the difference between Norman and Standard French is not enough to constitute a language. Yorkshire Dialect or Geordie is probably just as liable to call themselves a language if Norman calls itself a language seperate from French.
There is already a version of a Chinese dialect called "Cantonese", which is used only locally.


by The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:46 pm

by The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:46 pm
Arumdaum wrote:Fruition wrote:
There is already a version of a Chinese dialect called "Cantonese", which is used only locally.
It's not a dialect, but a completely different language from Mandarin, although the two are in the same Chinese language family. The speakers of the two languages don't understand each other at all. China's a lot more diverse than people think it is. Also, it's the dominant Chinese language for the Chinese who live overseas.
by Arumdaum » Thu May 16, 2013 8:46 pm

by The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:47 pm
by Arumdaum » Thu May 16, 2013 8:47 pm
The Godly Nations wrote:Arumdaum wrote:It's not a dialect, but a completely different language from Mandarin, although the two are in the same Chinese language family. The speakers of the two languages don't understand each other at all. China's a lot more diverse than people think it is. Also, it's the dominant Chinese language for the Chinese who live overseas.
Except, it is a dialect of Chinese.

by Aethrys » Thu May 16, 2013 8:50 pm
Strykla wrote:I kind of feel like every other nation should be collectively yelling, "Fight! Fight! Fight!"

by Spiritwolf » Thu May 16, 2013 8:52 pm

by The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:52 pm

by Gigaverse » Thu May 16, 2013 8:54 pm
Art-person(?). Japan liker. tired-ish.
Student inlinguistics???. On-and-off writer.
MAKE CAKE NOT stupidshiticanmakefunof.born in, raised in and emigrated from vietbongistan lolol
Operating this polity based on preferences and narrative purposes
clowning incident | clowning incident | bottom text
can produce noises in (in order of grasp) vietbongistani, oldspeak
and bonjourois (learning weebspeak and hitlerian at uni)

by The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:55 pm
Spiritwolf wrote:The Chinese are simply going to eventually push the Japanese back into what the Japanese people have always been over the ages.......... a strong, fearless, aggressively fierce militaristic culture that will show no weakness, will not give nor ask for any quarter, and will absolutely fuck China up. The dawn of the age of the modern Samurai draws near and his blade thirsts for the blood of the enemies of Japan.

by Fruition (Ancient) » Thu May 16, 2013 8:55 pm

by The Godly Nations » Thu May 16, 2013 8:56 pm
by Arumdaum » Thu May 16, 2013 8:56 pm

by Ganos Lao » Thu May 16, 2013 8:57 pm
The Godly Nations wrote:Ganos Lao wrote:
When Norse invaders arrived in the then-province of Neustria and settled the land that became known as Normandy, they gradually adopted the Gallo-Romance speech of the existing populations – much as Norman rulers in England later adopted the speech of the administered people. There are Norse influences in the Norman language as a result, and in some cases, Norse words adopted in Norman have been borrowed into French – and more recently some of the English words used in French can be traced back to Norman origins.
Why all this pretense that Norman is separate from French if it's just a dialect of French?
Because it is not a language. It is not very different from standard French, and the amount of Norse words is probably only slightly more than the amount of Gallic words in Modern French.
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