China lays claim to Okinawa as territory dispute with Japan

[New England and The Maritimes]

WTH? Okinawa has been Japanese forever, and will be till kingdom come.
U just wrong, China.

Japanese since about 1869, you mean, right? Before that it was an independent tributary of a Daimyo in Kyushu, yet also paid tribute to Chinese rulers.

[Ganos Lao]

Lived in Normandy yes, married with local populace yes, spoke Norman language and had their own customs . Not French.

"Norman" was just a provincial dialect of French.

But there is indeed a Norman language considered separate from French. I think that's what he was referring to.

[Earth Federation]

Yes yes china has the right to dictate is will all over the world in the name of the communism and blah blah blah all propaganda's crap

[Jetan]

"Norman" was just a provincial dialect of French.

But there is indeed a Norman language considered separate from French. I think that's what he was referring to.

Exactly.

[The Godly Nations]

spoke a dialect of French, and adopted French customs. French.

Norman was not dialect of French. Hell, french didn't even exist yet. Adopted some french customs but not all, creating their own mix. Not French.

It was, it was a dialect of French. As for customs, clearly derived from French customs, and so, they are indeed French. Hell, they even identified as French.

[The Godly Nations]

"Norman" was just a provincial dialect of French.

But there is indeed a Norman language considered separate from French. I think that's what he was referring to.

It isn't a seperate language.

[Churchilland]

I love how a "communist" party tries citing tributary states as a form of "legitimate ownership." Honestly, imperialism is bad unless it glorifies your nationalist bullshit, right?

They didn't care about "Communism" back in Mao's time. Why should they now?

Because being called Nazi isn't nice...

[Orham]

The point is, last I checked the Okinawan people themselves have declared that sovereignty over their territory rightly belongs to Japan and to their provincial government. That should settle the matter, and the people arguing that Okinawa ought to belong to China should give up.

[Ganos Lao]

Norman was not dialect of French. Hell, french didn't even exist yet. Adopted some french customs but not all, creating their own mix. Not French.

It was, it was a dialect of French. As for customs, clearly derived from French customs, and so, they are indeed French. Hell, they even identified as French.

The Norman language is not a dialect of French.

Even the French themselves consider it a separate language from theirs, giving it the status of regional language.

The Norman language developed from the Old Norse language of the Vikings who settled in the region mixing with the language of the people already there.

[Jetan]

Norman was not dialect of French. Hell, french didn't even exist yet. Adopted some french customs but not all, creating their own mix. Not French.

It was, it was a dialect of French. As for customs, clearly derived from French customs, and so, they are indeed French. Hell, they even identified as French.

They identified as Norman. As for language:

Norman (Normandy: Nourmaund, Guernésiais: Normand, Jèrriais: Nouormand) is a Romance language and one of the Oïl languages. Norman can be classified as one of the northern Oïl languages along with Picard and Walloon. The name Norman-French is sometimes used to describe not only the Norman language, but also the administrative languages of Anglo-Norman and Law French used in England. For the most part, the written forms of modern French and Norman are intercomprehensible

Not French

[Jerusalemian]

CHINA HAS CLAIMED HEAVEN IN ACCORDANCE WITH HISTORICAL TIES WITH THE PLACE!

[Blekksprutia]

WTH? Okinawa has been Japanese forever, and will be till kingdom come.
U just wrong, China.

No, Okinawa has been Japanese since...1868. When the Ryukyu Kingdom was annexed by the Meiji Government.

I didn't know there was a before 1900!

[Ganos Lao]

But there is indeed a Norman language considered separate from French. I think that's what he was referring to.

It isn't a seperate language.

Yes, it is. Provide evidence is isn't. Also, were you serious about the 1763 thing? If so, why?

[The Godly Nations]

It was, it was a dialect of French. As for customs, clearly derived from French customs, and so, they are indeed French. Hell, they even identified as French.

The Norman language is not a dialect of French.

Even the French themselves consider it a separate language from theirs, giving it the status of regional language.

The Norman language developed from the Old Norse language of the Vikings who settled in the region mixing with the language of the people already there.

No, Norman is a Oil Language, meaning it is a French Dialect, which is about as Viking as modern Standard French is Gaullic.

[Jetan]

The Norman language is not a dialect of French.

Even the French themselves consider it a separate language from theirs, giving it the status of regional language.

The Norman language developed from the Old Norse language of the Vikings who settled in the region mixing with the language of the people already there.

No, Norman is a Oil Language, meaning it is a French Dialect, which is about as Viking as modern Standard French is Gaullic.

Oïl languages =/= Dialects of French

[The Godly Nations]

It isn't a seperate language.

Yes, it is. Provide evidence is isn't. Also, were you serious about the 1763 thing? If so, why?

No, because it has no official recognition, and is simply a Patois.

[The Godly Nations]

No, Norman is a Oil Language, meaning it is a French Dialect, which is about as Viking as modern Standard French is Gaullic.

Oïl languages =/= Dialects of French

Still French Patois, not a seperate language.

[Ganos Lao]

The Norman language is not a dialect of French.

Even the French themselves consider it a separate language from theirs, giving it the status of regional language.

The Norman language developed from the Old Norse language of the Vikings who settled in the region mixing with the language of the people already there.

No, Norman is a Oil Language, meaning it is a French Dialect, which is about as Viking as modern Standard French is Gaullic.

Nope. Any linguistic chart of the Langue d'oïl would show you that French is considered separate from the others. Grouped in the same category? Sure. But not at all similar - why else would the people who speak the other languages be noted as fighting for the ability to keep their languages still spoken?

[Ganos Lao]

Yes, it is. Provide evidence is isn't. Also, were you serious about the 1763 thing? If so, why?

No, because it has no official recognition, and is simply a Patois.

It has no official recognition? Then why does the French government have it as a regional language and acts as if it is separate from French?

[The Godly Nations]

No, Norman is a Oil Language, meaning it is a French Dialect, which is about as Viking as modern Standard French is Gaullic.

Nope. Any linguistic chart of the Langue d'oïl would show you that French is considered separate from the others. Grouped in the same category? Sure. But not at all similar - why else would the people who speak the other languages be noted as fighting for the ability to keep their languages still spoken?

Because they want to keep their patois, which is hardly as different from standard French as Cantonese, Min, and Wu is from Standard Mandarin.

[Jetan]

Oïl languages =/= Dialects of French

Still French Patois, not a seperate language.

No, it's a separate language related to other Langue d'oïl, not a dialect or a patois.

[The Godly Nations]

Still French Patois, not a seperate language.

No, it's a separate language related to other Langue d'oïl, not a dialect or a patois.

It isn't a seperate language. Basque is a seperate language, Norman French isn't.

[Ganos Lao]

Nope. Any linguistic chart of the Langue d'oïl would show you that French is considered separate from the others. Grouped in the same category? Sure. But not at all similar - why else would the people who speak the other languages be noted as fighting for the ability to keep their languages still spoken?

Because they want to keep their patois, which is hardly as different from standard French as Cantonese, Min, and Wu is from Standard Mandarin.

So what makes Norman and French not so different? Provide evidence beyond "it IS a patois!" for our clarification.

[Jetan]

No, it's a separate language related to other Langue d'oïl, not a dialect or a patois.

It isn't a seperate language. Basque is a seperate language, Norman French isn't.

Yes. It. Is.

Really, what are you basing your absurd notion of it being a dialect on? I bet you think Swedish, Norwegian and Danish are all just dialects of each other too.

[Greed and Death]

They are trying to use it as a bargaining chip. I think the US should send a Carrier group and double the marines on Okinawa for a joint exercise with Japan.