Words and Gender: Does Gender Differentiation Matter?

[The Nihilistic view]

Daycare is shut down today because of chemicals found in the drinking water.

Please stop trying to be funny. You're just not very good at it.

And you are?

[Land of Tob]

I am merely saying what is true. That is not sexism. It is a fact.

You would be amazed how little we care what you think.

If you can't demonstrate it, don't bother.

Then why even respond if you don't care?

[Rocopurr]

I don't see the point of seperate gender terms in careers. Its all the same career so I don't see why it matters.

[Land of Tob]

Please stop trying to be funny. You're just not very good at it.

And you are?

He thinks he is.

[Nailed to the Perch]

And, see, this is exactly why we are promoting gender-neutral language. Because the people arguing against it are doing so on the basis of a belief that gender routinely affects one's ability to do their job. You support sexism. We don't. The entire point of saying "poet" instead of "poetess" or "police officer" instead of "policewoman" is to combat the attitudes of people like you, who would insist that gender can be used to determine someone's capability for the job.

Why is saying the gender in the word sexist? Because the gender is inferior? No, it isn't. Why are you all so insulted by something like that? It's been done for thousands of years and it will continue.

Because he just said that gender affects one's ability to perform a job. By definition, that means being of a certain gender makes one BETTER or WORSE - or SUPERIOR and INFERIOR - at a given position, in his view.

Also, murder has been done for thousands of years and will continue. Amazingly, that doesn't stop me from thinking murder is bad and should be discouraged. It's almost like "this thing exists" is in no way a defense of the position that "this thing SHOULD exist."

[Mirage]

So saying that i don't put any effort into "not addressing arguments" equates to being a troll.

Wow. You are clearly... something.

Coming onto a debate forum with no intention of doing so does make you a troll, yes.

No intention of not addressing arguments means i have intention of addressing them .

I thought you were better than this.

If you can't demonstrate it, don't bother.

Only it has been. But with your "knowledge" or "lack of", i don't expect you to understand.

[Neo Art]

Great idea! Why don't we get rid of the words husband and wife, brother and sister, and aunt and uncle while we're at it because those are obviously very sexist as well. It just so insulting to women that they can't amount to becoming a husband, brother or uncle.

spouse
sibling

also: parent. child. cousin. Grandparent. Stepparent. Half sibling. Grandchild.

There are, in fact, gender neutral terms for almost all familial relationships. We don't really have one for "sibling of parent" but perhaps we should.

[The Nihilistic view]

And you are?

He thinks he is.

Evidently. Or he is trying to troll/flame.

[Immoren]

Great idea! Why don't we get rid of the words husband and wife, brother and sister, and aunt and uncle while we're at it because those are obviously very sexist as well. It just so insulting to women that they can't amount to becoming a husband, brother or uncle.

[Land of Tob]

Why is saying the gender in the word sexist? Because the gender is inferior? No, it isn't. Why are you all so insulted by something like that? It's been done for thousands of years and it will continue.

Because you just said that gender affects one's ability to perform a job. By definition, that means being of a certain gender makes one BETTER or WORSE - or SUPERIOR and INFERIOR - at a given position, in your view.

Also, murder has been done for thousands of years and will continue. Amazingly, that doesn't stop me from thinking murder is bad and should be discouraged. It's almost like "this thing exists" is in no way a defense of the position that "this thing SHOULD exist."

You made a huge mistake there, because I did not say it affects their ability to perform a job. That was different person. I am so sorry for your epic failure of international measurement.

[Seperates]

Sure. It relates as a societal and psychological construst. Get rid of the biases and pre-suppusitions and we'd probably find that gender and race really don't affect anything in any meaningful statistical difference.

Biological too. And yes it does.

Take a man and a woman. Give them the same training, food etc. No steroids or anything. Tell me which one would be naturally stronger ?

The biological 'genders' are much more similar than society would have you believe.

Define 'stronger'? Is it endurance? Maxing? What are they training for?

[Neo Art]

Please stop trying to be funny. You're just not very good at it.

And you are?

I am, as a matter of fact, fucking hilarious. I'm also far more clever than someone who thinks "I know you are but what am I?" is witty.

[Land of Tob]

He thinks he is.

Evidently. Or he is trying to troll/flame.

I really think he just thinks he's funny.

[Mirage]

Because he just said that gender affects one's ability to perform a job. By definition, that means being of a certain gender makes one BETTER or WORSE - or SUPERIOR and INFERIOR - at a given position, in his view.

Because that is the truth. The actual difference may vary from person to person, but the difference exists.

[Nailed to the Perch]

Because you just said that gender affects one's ability to perform a job. By definition, that means being of a certain gender makes one BETTER or WORSE - or SUPERIOR and INFERIOR - at a given position, in your view.

Also, murder has been done for thousands of years and will continue. Amazingly, that doesn't stop me from thinking murder is bad and should be discouraged. It's almost like "this thing exists" is in no way a defense of the position that "this thing SHOULD exist."

You made a huge mistake there, because I did not say it affects their ability to perform a job. That was different person. I am so sorry for your epic failure of international measurement.

Kiddo, I corrected that about 10 seconds later. I know you're having fun, but try addressing the content of a post just for variety, maybe?

[Land of Tob]

You made a huge mistake there, because I did not say it affects their ability to perform a job. That was different person. I am so sorry for your epic failure of international measurement.

Kiddo, I corrected that about 10 seconds later. I know you're having fun, but try addressing the content of a post just for variety, maybe?

I pointed out your mistake, "kiddo".

[The Nihilistic view]

So after a long and tiresome debate we have come to the conclusion that Gender Differentiation does matter. For those unconvinced by the arguments thus far presented i give you the humble bra.



I wonder why it is important to give a bra to the right gender?

[Veyliss]

He thinks he is.

Evidently. Or he is trying to troll/flame.

Where's the "report" button on this site?

IMO Accusation of trolling and flaming, instead of just reporting, is in itself a form of flaming.

[Mirage]

Biological too. And yes it does.

Take a man and a woman. Give them the same training, food etc. No steroids or anything. Tell me which one would be naturally stronger ?

The biological 'genders' are much more similar than society would have you believe.

Define 'stronger'? Is it endurance? Maxing? What are they training for?

In this particular case, let us just say, "who can lift more weight".

[Land of Tob]

So after a long and tiresome debate we have come to the conclusion that Gender Differentiation does matter. For those unconvinced by the arguments thus far presented i give you the humble bra.

(Image)

I wonder why it is important to give a bra to the right gender?

Why don't we just wear it, too? Equality!

[Rocopurr]

So after a long and tiresome debate we have come to the conclusion that Gender Differentiation does matter. For those unconvinced by the arguments thus far presented i give you the humble bra.

(Image)

I wonder why it is important to give a bra to the right gender?

Not all women wear bras, and if a man wants to wear a bra let him.

So, you see, there is no 'right gender' for a bra.

[Neo Art]

So after a long and tiresome debate we have come to the conclusion that Gender Differentiation does matter. For those unconvinced by the arguments thus far presented i give you the humble bra.

(Image)

I wonder why it is important to give a bra to the right gender?

are you under this strange impression that all women wear bras? I'm not entirely sure your social circle has hit puberty yet.

Which, frankly, would explain a lot.

[Land of Tob]

So after a long and tiresome debate we have come to the conclusion that Gender Differentiation does matter. For those unconvinced by the arguments thus far presented i give you the humble bra.

(Image)

I wonder why it is important to give a bra to the right gender?

Not all women wear bras, and if a man wants to wear a bra let him.

So, you see, there is no 'right gender' for a bra.

But it's kind of socially unacceptable for a man to wear a bra. Let us wear bras damnit! EQUALITY.

[Mirage]

But it's kind of socially unacceptable for a man to wear a bra. Let us wear bras damnit! EQUALITY.

What about same restrooms ?

[Rocopurr]

Not all women wear bras, and if a man wants to wear a bra let him.

So, you see, there is no 'right gender' for a bra.

But it's kind of socially unacceptable for a man to wear a bra. Let us wear bras damnit! EQUALITY.

People won't exactly know you're wearing a bra unless you're not wearing a shirt.