Words and Gender: Does Gender Differentiation Matter?

[Mirage]

I don't see any major difference to merit any special attention.

If you put half the amount of effort you put into not addressing arguments, into addressing them, you might be decent at this.

0/2 = 0

[Land of Tob]

Speculation.

Latin.

Italian.
French.
Spanish.

Doesn't mean that it must happen.

[Immoren]

Mirage, this is Latin. Latin, meet Mirage.

Just because something happened in the past does not necessarily mean that is would also happen in the future.

"Linguists, bah! What do they think they know of languages! Worthless lot I say!"

[Anachronous Rex]

If you put half the amount of effort you put into not addressing arguments, into addressing them, you might be decent at this.

0/2 = 0

So you are admitting to being a troll?

[Nailed to the Perch]

It's in the Ontos of the thing.

And if somehow English did stop changing, all that would happen is there would suddenly be two Englishes. One that continued to change, and one the remained forever like a museum piece. Revered perhaps, but stuffed and mounted all the same, static and unused.

Speculation.

Because one's race/gender does not affect their ability to do their job or their job description, and is for the most part irrelevant in a professional context. If you need a specific race/gender, add the proper adjective in the description. You don't need a special word for it. That's just racist AND sexist.

One's gender does affect their ability to an extent and it is relevant in some cases if not most. And "efficiency". If being truthful is racist and sexist, then yes it is.

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And, see, this is exactly why we are promoting gender-neutral language. Because the people arguing against it are doing so on the basis of a belief that gender routinely affects one's ability to do their job. You support sexism. We don't. The entire point of saying "poet" instead of "poetess" or "police officer" instead of "policewoman" is to combat the attitudes of people like you, who would insist that gender can be used to determine someone's capability for the job.

[Neo Art]

Jesus fucking christ where are these people COMING from? Is there a daycare out there with wifi and minimal adult supervision?

[Mirage]

0/2 = 0

So you are admitting to being a troll?

So saying that i don't put any effort into "not addressing arguments" equates to being a troll.

Wow. You are clearly... something.

[Land of Tob]

Speculation.



One's gender does affect their ability to an extent and it is relevant in some cases if not most. And "efficiency". If being truthful is racist and sexist, then yes it is.

And, see, this is exactly why we are promoting gender-neutral language. Because the people arguing against it are doing so on the basis of a belief that gender routinely affects one's ability to do their job. You support sexism. We don't. The entire point of saying "poet" instead of "poetess" or "police officer" instead of "policewoman" is to combat the attitudes of people like you, who would insist that gender can be used to determine someone's capability for the job.[/quote]


Why is saying the gender in the word sexist? Because the gender is inferior? No, it isn't. Why are you all so insulted by something like that? It's been done for thousands of years and it will continue.

[Individuality-ness]

Because one's race/gender does not affect their ability to do their job or their job description, and is for the most part irrelevant in a professional context. If you need a specific race/gender, add the proper adjective in the description. You don't need a special word for it. That's just racist AND sexist.

One's gender does affect their ability to an extent and it is relevant in some cases if not most. And "efficiency". If being truthful is racist and sexist, then yes it is.

... why am I not surprised that you totally missed the point?

[Seperates]

It's in the Ontos of the thing.

And if somehow English did stop changing, all that would happen is there would suddenly be two Englishes. One that continued to change, and one the remained forever like a museum piece. Revered perhaps, but stuffed and mounted all the same, static and unused.

Speculation.

Because one's race/gender does not affect their ability to do their job or their job description, and is for the most part irrelevant in a professional context. If you need a specific race/gender, add the proper adjective in the description. You don't need a special word for it. That's just racist AND sexist.

One's gender does affect their ability to an extent and it is relevant in some cases if not most. And "efficiency". If being truthful is racist and sexist, then yes it is.

Sure. It relates as a societal and psychological construst. Get rid of the biases and pre-suppusitions and we'd probably find that gender and race really don't affect anything in any meaningful statistical difference.

[Immoren]

Latin.

Italian.
French.
Spanish.

Doesn't mean that it must happen.

American-English, British-English, Austro-English, etc are already on their way to become separate languages. IIRC.

[Land of Tob]

Jesus fucking christ where are these people COMING from? Is there a daycare out there with wifi and minimal adult supervision?

Daycare is shut down today because of chemicals found in the drinking water.

[Mirage]

And, see, this is exactly why we are promoting gender-neutral language. Because the people arguing against it are doing so on the basis of a belief that gender routinely affects one's ability to do their job. You support sexism. We don't. The entire point of saying "poet" instead of "poetess" or "police officer" instead of "policewoman" is to combat the attitudes of people like you, who would insist that gender can be used to determine someone's capability for the job.

I am merely saying what is true. That is not sexism. It is a fact.

[Land of Tob]

Doesn't mean that it must happen.

American-English, British-English, Austro-English, etc are already on their way to become separate languages. IIRC.

Doesn't mean that it must happen.
Nah, just kidding. You're probably going to be correct on those.

[Neo Art]

Jesus fucking christ where are these people COMING from? Is there a daycare out there with wifi and minimal adult supervision?

Daycare is shut down today because of chemicals found in the drinking water.

Please stop trying to be funny. You're just not very good at it.

[Anachronous Rex]

Latin.

Italian.
French.
Spanish.

Doesn't mean that it must happen.

Do you want me to keep going in this vein?

It has happened literally every time, and no language in use has ever ceased evolving even for a moment. There are very obvious sociological reasons for this. It's odd that you would deny the basic nature of language, just so as to hinder feminism.

It's a sort of self-sabotaging rhetoric you usually only see in creationists.

[Neo Art]

Doesn't mean that it must happen.

Do you want me to keep going in this vein?

It has happened literally every time, and no language in use has ever ceased evolving even for a moment. There are very obvious sociological reasons for this. It's odd that you would deny the basic nature of language, just so as to hinder feminism.

It's a sort of self-sabotaging rhetoric you usually only see in creationists.

And, you know, summertime trolls.

[Immoren]

American-English, British-English, Austro-English, etc are already on their way to become separate languages. IIRC.

Doesn't mean that it must happen.

How do you PREVENT it happening?

[Land of Tob]

Daycare is shut down today because of chemicals found in the drinking water.

Please stop trying to be funny. You're just not very good at it.

You constantly think people are trying to be funny? Answering a stupid remark with a stupid remark.

[Anachronous Rex]

So you are admitting to being a troll?

So saying that i don't put any effort into "not addressing arguments" equates to being a troll.

Wow. You are clearly... something.

Coming onto a debate forum with no intention of doing so does make you a troll, yes.

[Warped Aggression]

Great idea! Why don't we get rid of the words husband and wife, brother and sister, and aunt and uncle while we're at it because those are obviously very sexist as well. It just so insulting to women that they can't amount to becoming a husband, brother or uncle.

[Mirage]

Sure. It relates as a societal and psychological construst. Get rid of the biases and pre-suppusitions and we'd probably find that gender and race really don't affect anything in any meaningful statistical difference.

Biological too. And yes it does.

Take a man and a woman. Give them the same training, food etc. No steroids or anything. Tell me which one would be naturally stronger ?

[Land of Tob]

Doesn't mean that it must happen.

How do you PREVENT it happening?

You can't, it makes its own "road".
Those different English languages you are correct, it will probably happen.

[Anachronous Rex]

And, see, this is exactly why we are promoting gender-neutral language. Because the people arguing against it are doing so on the basis of a belief that gender routinely affects one's ability to do their job. You support sexism. We don't. The entire point of saying "poet" instead of "poetess" or "police officer" instead of "policewoman" is to combat the attitudes of people like you, who would insist that gender can be used to determine someone's capability for the job.

I am merely saying what is true. That is not sexism. It is a fact.

You would be amazed how little we care what you think.

If you can't demonstrate it, don't bother.

[Land of Tob]

Great idea! Why don't we get rid of the words husband and wife, brother and sister, and aunt and uncle while we're at it because those are obviously very sexist as well. It just so insulting to women that they can't amount to becoming a husband, brother or uncle.

^This.