Are homosexuals really born that way?

[Seperates]

This is what your question sounds like:

Why would black people want equality in the first place?

Because I want the right to buy chicken as much as white people.

How absurd.

[Neutraligon]

No you are the majority, that does not make you correct. Lets see, we have 12 states right now who recognize same sex marriages. We are looking at adding a few more. We have SCOTUS looking into both state level bans and federal non recognition. This is no more a trend the allowing interracial marriage or women to vote.

Here we go again...I been down this road before, in these threads, mate. Women, blacks, jews, blah blah.
Don´t go that way, it ain´t the same thing.

How is it different?

[New Libertarian States]

No you are the majority, that does not make you correct. Lets see, we have 12 states right now who recognize same sex marriages. We are looking at adding a few more. We have SCOTUS looking into both state level bans and federal non recognition. This is no more a trend the allowing interracial marriage or women to vote.

Here we go again...I been down this road before, in these threads, mate. Women, blacks, jews, blah blah.
Don´t go that way, it ain´t the same thing.

It isn't?
Please explain how any type of minority wanting equal rights isn't the same for everybody?
Excluding on what they want, it IS the same.

[Lyassa and Nairoa]

Why would people of a...er...different sexual persuasion want equality in the first place ?

Because its not that hard, nor a bad demand to be equal.
That's like asking "X race" why they would want to be equal.

You people should get a country of your own. Away from us. Where you could do...whatever God knows you do.

[New Libertarian States]

Here we go again...I been down this road before, in these threads, mate. Women, blacks, jews, blah blah.
Don´t go that way, it ain´t the same thing.

How is it different?

Because the yicky gays
*nods*

[Farnhamia]

No, no, I draw the line at those Xers. X is always wanting to be equal to something, Y or a² + b². I say, enough!

Dammed Xers, dem taking mer jerbs!

[Russadonia]

No you are the majority, that does not make you correct. Lets see, we have 12 states right now who recognize same sex marriages. We are looking at adding a few more. We have SCOTUS looking into both state level bans and federal non recognition. This is no more a trend the allowing interracial marriage or women to vote.

Here we go again...I been down this road before, in these threads, mate. Women, blacks, jews, blah blah.
Don´t go that way, it ain´t the same thing.

Except that it is.

[Disserbia]

Does it really matter?

In some ways yes. unfortunately if people think of it as a choice, then they will probably simply say then there is no reason for equality, homosexuals can simply choose not to be attracted to those of the same gender. The fact that it shouldn't matter will not be brought up.

To which I would reply that if you love freedom so much don't be a hypocrite.

[Farnhamia]

Because its not that hard, nor a bad demand to be equal.
That's like asking "X race" why they would want to be equal.

You people should get a country of your own. Away from us. Where you could do...whatever God knows you do.

Tough. I'm a natural-born citizen of the United States of America. I'm entitled to just as many rights as you are. I deserve more for having to put up with people like you but we'll let that go.

[Seperates]

Because its not that hard, nor a bad demand to be equal.
That's like asking "X race" why they would want to be equal.

You people should get a country of your own. Away from us. Where you could do...whatever God knows you do.

Then why don't you go back to your own country?

[New Libertarian States]

Because its not that hard, nor a bad demand to be equal.
That's like asking "X race" why they would want to be equal.

You people should get a country of your own. Away from us. Where you could do...whatever God knows you do.

I'm straight.....
That's like telling X people to get a country because ideals conflict.
IT'S DEMOCRACY. There's supposed to be conflicting ideals. If X ideas get popular, does it mean your wrong? No, but it may mean that there's something bad about it.

[Neutraligon]

Because its not that hard, nor a bad demand to be equal.
That's like asking "X race" why they would want to be equal.

You people should get a country of your own. Away from us. Where you could do...whatever God knows you do.

Why? They are citizens of the united states and have (should have) all the rights and responsibilities that entails. We are no different from you, xcept we find different people attractive.

[New Libertarian States]

Dammed Xers, dem taking mer jerbs!

Hide your jerbs, hide your hamsters, they stealing everybody up in here.

[Seperates]

Homosexuals are born that way.
Homosexual people may be born that way or may choose to be gay.
Note the difference. One is a noun, the other is an adjective. I realize this is very odd language (and someone is bound to toss unfounded allegations of prejudice at me, a bisexual woman, but using a noun "homosexual" and contrasting it with an adjective used in the phrase "homosexual people" should not be misinterpreted to suggest that I don't believe homosexuals are people; THEY ARE PEOPLE, TOO), but I use it because I hope it may help some understand.
In the case of the noun, those people are indeed innately gay (born that way, or genetic), whether they ever have a homosexual relationship or not.
In the case of the adjective, those people are in some cases innately gay (born that way, or genetic) and embrace being gay (this doesn't always happen easily, due to social bullshit), and in other cases have an experience that they use to define themselves as gay (environmental).

Is there "a gay gene"? As others have said, I doubt it's quite that simple. There is, however, most definitely a physical factor involved in some cases, which may suggest one gene or several, or a genetic predisposition.

Probably correct.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Because its not that hard, nor a bad demand to be equal.
That's like asking "X race" why they would want to be equal.

You people should get a country of your own. Away from us. Where you could do...whatever God knows you do.

I have an idea.

As there have been homosexuals for far longer than there have been fundamentalist Christians and other social conservatives, why don't you get your own nation, and run it as you wish? After all, one's cultural, political, and religious beliefs are far more of a choice than one's sexual orientation, and I don't see why anyone else should be forced to deal with your offensive decisions.

[Disserbia]

Does it really matter?

...Of course.

Why?

[Lyassa and Nairoa]

Here we go again...I been down this road before, in these threads, mate. Women, blacks, jews, blah blah.
Don´t go that way, it ain´t the same thing.

Except that it is.

I understand the women bit - and that´s why so many straight women, fag hags and the lot understand (male) homos...they know what it means to be penetrated.
Gay pride ? don´t make laugh. You´re gay prod.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Except that it is.

I understand the women bit - and that´s why so many straight women, fag hags and the lot understand (male) homos...they know what it means to be penetrated.
Gay pride ? don´t make laugh. You´re gay prod.

...was that meant to be a pun?

If so, then please stop. You're not very good at it.

[Phing Phong]

I have an idea.

As there have been homosexuals for far longer than there have been fundamentalist Christians and other social conservatives, why don't you get your own nation, and run it as you wish? After all, one's cultural, political, and religious beliefs are far more of a choice than one's sexual orientation, and I don't see why anyone else should be forced to deal with your offensive decisions.

They can have one square mile of San Francisco, in order to preserve their democratic right to an unfounded persecution complex.

[New Libertarian States]

Except that it is.

I understand the women bit - and that´s why so many straight women, fag hags and the lot understand (male) homos...they know what it means to be penetrated.
Gay pride ? don´t make laugh. You´re gay prod.

I have no clue what this means.
Are you trying to communicate?
Quickly, a translator!

[Seperates]

I have an idea.

As there have been homosexuals for far longer than there have been fundamentalist Christians and other social conservatives, why don't you get your own nation, and run it as you wish? After all, one's cultural, political, and religious beliefs are far more of a choice than one's sexual orientation, and I don't see why anyone else should be forced to deal with your offensive decisions.

They can have one square mile of San Francisco, in order to preserve their democratic right to an unfounded persecution complex.

Nope. Get them out of my San Fran.

[Neutraligon]

Lyassa and Nairo you still haven't explained how it is different.

I have an idea.

As there have been homosexuals for far longer than there have been fundamentalist Christians and other social conservatives, why don't you get your own nation, and run it as you wish? After all, one's cultural, political, and religious beliefs are far more of a choice than one's sexual orientation, and I don't see why anyone else should be forced to deal with your offensive decisions.

They can have one square mile of San Francisco, in order to preserve their democratic right to an unfounded persecution complex.

Why would you want to ruin such a nice city?

[Lyassa and Nairoa]

You people should get a country of your own. Away from us. Where you could do...whatever God knows you do.

Why the are citizens of the united states and have (should have) all the rights and responsibilities that entails. We are no different from you, xcept we find different people attractive.

No, you find the WRONG people attractive...if you find people same sex people attractive, why don´t realise there´s something wrong with you ?
Why do you feel proud about it ? Is it a way to catharsis the shame ?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I have an idea.

As there have been homosexuals for far longer than there have been fundamentalist Christians and other social conservatives, why don't you get your own nation, and run it as you wish? After all, one's cultural, political, and religious beliefs are far more of a choice than one's sexual orientation, and I don't see why anyone else should be forced to deal with your offensive decisions.

They can have one square mile of San Francisco, in order to preserve their democratic right to an unfounded persecution complex.

That's a wonderful idea.

I would insist upon regular UN inspections to ensure that they're not developing nuclear weapons for use against their neighbors, but I somehow suspect that the scientific education necessary to reach that level wouldn't be a priority of the society.

[Seperates]

Why the are citizens of the united states and have (should have) all the rights and responsibilities that entails. We are no different from you, xcept we find different people attractive.

No, you find the WRONG people attractive...if you find people same sex people attractive, why don´t realise there´s something wrong with you ?
Why do you feel proud about it ? Is it a way to catharsis the shame ?

What makes them the wrong people?