Are homosexuals really born that way?

[St George]

As long as theirs isn't getting waved in somebody's face without clear consent, what exactly is the direct harm to anybody?

Christy Hemme reference?

[Lyassa and Nairoa]

Recognition, just because they engage in inverted sexual practice.

Then you really don't understand the demands of the LGBT community. What we want is equality not recognition. "Inverted sexual practice"?

Which word didn´t you understand ? Inverted ?

[Dolly Partonia]

I don´t give a fuck whether homos are born that way or not.
I´m rather worried about what they demand from us, from mainstream society,
I´m worried about what the taint of homosexuality hysterically screams from us in the name of an ill-gotten sense of pride they do not deserve and that - to be honest about it - makes me wanna puke.

Let go of your hate, uncertainty, and worries.

Gays want nothing but respect and tolerance. If you can learn to look past what you despise, and learn to stop being so bothered by the innocent lives of others, you will be a changed person. You can love god free from stress, disdain and worry. This is your problem.

Praise Dolly!

[Neutraligon]

Then you really don't understand the demands of the LGBT community. What we want is equality not recognition. "Inverted sexual practice"?

Which word didn´t you understand ? Inverted ?

The phrase as a whole, it has absolutely no meaning.

[Phing Phong]

It is irrelevant what the genetic or psychological processes behind homosexuality are with regards to the morality of it - whether or not sexual orientation is genetically determined or a choice doesn't affect the fundamental question "is what two consenting adults do behind closed doors any of my business?".

[Yumyumsuppertime]

What do they demand?

Good question, also "ill-gotten sense of pride" what the hell does that mean?

It means that gay people don't skulk around in the dimly lit corners of underground bars anymore, like they're supposed to. Instead they're holding parades, and being open about their sexuality, and they're even daring to go out in public. A few are even daring to raise families together!

[Mirage]

Does it really matter?

In some ways yes. unfortunately if people think of it as a choice, then they will probably simply say then there is no reason for equality, homosexuals can simply choose not to be attracted to those of the same gender. The fact that it shouldn't matter will not be brought up.

If you included me, then while i am against homosexuality, i will and do defend their rights to be treated as equals under the law.

"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

[Lyassa and Nairoa]

Ask them people, not me - I´m on the right side.

We are asking why you think they want recognition. Also, considering the trend, no you aren't.

Yes, I am. I´m hetero. Straight. Correct.
You call it a trend ? I call it a fad.

[New Libertarian States]

I don´t give a fuck whether homos are born that way or not.
I´m rather worried about 1) what demand from us, from mainstream society,
I´m worried about what the 2)taint of homosexuality hysterically screams from us in the name of an 3)ill-gotten sense of pride they do not deserve and that - to be honest about it - makes me wanna puke.

1)Citation needed on why equality is bad
2)Citation needed on any "tainting"
3)Why should they be proud for who they are?

[New Libertarian States]

We are asking why you think they want recognition. Also, considering the trend, no you aren't.

Yes, I am. I´m hetero. Straight. Correct.
You call it a trend ? I call it a fad.

I call it a god damned arm race.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

We are asking why you think they want recognition. Also, considering the trend, no you aren't.

Yes, I am. I´m hetero. Straight. Correct.
You call it a trend ? I call it a fad.

A fad?

[Northern Dominus]

We are asking why you think they want recognition. Also, considering the trend, no you aren't.

Yes, I am. I´m hetero. Straight. Correct.
You call it a trend ? I call it a fad.

I call it inconsequential. I call it going through a lot of work in order to exclude people into us vs. them rather than recognizing people as human first before attempting to sub-divide.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Yes, I am. I´m hetero. Straight. Correct.
You call it a trend ? I call it a fad.

I call it a god damned arm race.

This isn't rock and roll! This is genocide!

Sorry, got carried away....

[Seperates]

We are asking why you think they want recognition. Also, considering the trend, no you aren't.

Yes, I am. I´m hetero. Straight. Correct.
You call it a trend ? I call it a fad.

I'm not sure why you are calling a behavior that has been historically recognized as going all the way back to the Greeks (and likely even farther back) a fad. Might as well call agriculture a fad.

[Neutraligon]

We are asking why you think they want recognition. Also, considering the trend, no you aren't.

Yes, I am. I´m hetero. Straight. Correct.
You call it a trend ? I call it a fad.

No you are the majority, that does not make you correct. Lets see, we have 12 states right now who recognize same sex marriages. We are looking at adding a few more. We have SCOTUS looking into both state level bans and federal non recognition. This is no more a trend the allowing interracial marriage or women to vote.

[Lyassa and Nairoa]

Which word didn´t you understand ? Inverted ?

The phrase as a whole, it has absolutely no meaning.

Why would people of a...er...different sexual persuasion want equality in the first place ?

[Seperates]

The phrase as a whole, it has absolutely no meaning.

Why would people of a...er...different sexual persuasion want equality in the first place ?

This is what your question sounds like:

Why would black people want equality in the first place?

[Farnhamia]

The phrase as a whole, it has absolutely no meaning.

Why would people of a...er...different sexual persuasion want equality in the first place ?

Why should we not be treated equally as citizens?

[New Libertarian States]

The phrase as a whole, it has absolutely no meaning.

Why would people of a...er...different sexual persuasion want equality in the first place ?

Because its not that hard, nor a bad demand to be equal.
That's like asking "X race" why they would want to be equal.

[Neutraligon]

The phrase as a whole, it has absolutely no meaning.

Why would people of a...er...different sexual persuasion want equality in the first place ?

Because they want to have the same rights and benefits as the heterosexual population around them. Why would women want equality why would African Americans want equality? Because equality means they are treated the same before the law. I must say this is a really stupid question.

Why would you be so interested in the taxes and rights of people completely unrelated to you?

[Dusk_Kittens]

Homosexuals are born that way.
Homosexual people may be born that way or may choose to be gay.
Note the difference. One is a noun, the other is an adjective. I realize this is very odd language (and someone is bound to toss unfounded allegations of prejudice at me, a bisexual woman, but using a noun "homosexual" and contrasting it with an adjective used in the phrase "homosexual people" should not be misinterpreted to suggest that I don't believe homosexuals are people; THEY ARE PEOPLE, TOO), but I use it because I hope it may help some understand.
In the case of the noun, those people are indeed innately gay (born that way, or genetic), whether they ever have a homosexual relationship or not.
In the case of the adjective, those people are in some cases innately gay (born that way, or genetic) and embrace being gay (this doesn't always happen easily, due to social bullshit), and in other cases have an experience that they use to define themselves as gay (environmental).

Is there "a gay gene"? As others have said, I doubt it's quite that simple. There is, however, most definitely a physical factor involved in some cases, which may suggest one gene or several, or a genetic predisposition.

[Mavorpen]

Why would people of a...er...different sexual persuasion want equality in the first place ?

This is what your question sounds like:

Why would black people want equality in the first place?

Because I want the right to buy chicken as much as white people.

[Farnhamia]

Why would people of a...er...different sexual persuasion want equality in the first place ?

Because its not that hard, nor a bad demand to be equal.
That's like asking "X race" why they would want to be equal.

No, no, I draw the line at those Xers. X is always wanting to be equal to something, Y or a² + b². I say, enough!

[New Libertarian States]

Because its not that hard, nor a bad demand to be equal.
That's like asking "X race" why they would want to be equal.

No, no, I draw the line at those Xers. X is always wanting to be equal to something, Y or a² + b². I say, enough!

Dammed Xers, dem taking mer jerbs!

[Lyassa and Nairoa]

Yes, I am. I´m hetero. Straight. Correct.
You call it a trend ? I call it a fad.

No you are the majority, that does not make you correct. Lets see, we have 12 states right now who recognize same sex marriages. We are looking at adding a few more. We have SCOTUS looking into both state level bans and federal non recognition. This is no more a trend the allowing interracial marriage or women to vote.

Here we go again...I been down this road before, in these threads, mate. Women, blacks, jews, blah blah.
Don´t go that way, it ain´t the same thing.