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Is there a gay gene?

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No
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More study is needed to determine
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Postby Mirage » Wed May 15, 2013 3:53 pm

Neutraligon wrote:You have responded by essentially refusing to post any evidence backing up your belief. This is a discussion board, one which believes heavily in the use of evidence to back up a belief. If you do not back up a belief then you really are going to be eaten alive on here. I have been very gentle with you.

Really so you thought I think I want to be attracted to butch women today, or did you just happen to be attracted to them, and your attraction changed?


1) I don't think you get what a belief is.
2) We know what happens with breaking the rules. Not that i care whether you are gentle or not.
3) It wasn't something that happened in a day. There were many factors and toned =/= butch.

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Dolly Partonia
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Postby Dolly Partonia » Wed May 15, 2013 3:53 pm

Our lord and savior Dolly has already spoken on this subject:

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Therefore the nature of homosexuality does not matter, only love and respect.

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Postby Mirage » Wed May 15, 2013 3:54 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
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Only, what i did ignore is the irrelevant part.


No. Everything that you're ignoring is material that directly contradicts your beliefs. The fact that it does so does not make it irrelevant.


Only they do not contradict my beliefs. Next ?

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed May 15, 2013 3:55 pm

Dolly Partonia wrote:Our lord and savior Dolly has already spoken on this subject:

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Therefore the nature of homosexuality does not matter, only love and respect.


My interest was piqued when Dolly was mentioned.

It was another Dolly :(
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Postby Merriwhether » Wed May 15, 2013 3:56 pm

I frankly don't believe that people can be genetically wired to have attraction for the same gender from birth. I think it's all something to do with social interaction in early development or slightly later in life that leads to homosexuality, but I have no sources for that, nor assuming I did have sources could I say definitively that's how it works.
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Postby NERVUN » Wed May 15, 2013 3:56 pm

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You're the idiot who didn't keep his story straight.

And you're flaming, knock it off, m'k?
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Postby Mirage » Wed May 15, 2013 3:57 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Dolly Partonia wrote:Our lord and savior Dolly has already spoken on this subject:

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Therefore the nature of homosexuality does not matter, only love and respect.


My interest was piqued when Dolly was mentioned.

It was another Dolly :(


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... loseup.jpg

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed May 15, 2013 3:58 pm

Mirage wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
My interest was piqued when Dolly was mentioned.

It was another Dolly :(


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... loseup.jpg

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Yup, that one. Though she is named after Dolly Parton :p
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Postby Lyassa and Nairoa » Wed May 15, 2013 4:14 pm

I don´t give a fuck whether homos are born that way or not.
I´m rather worried about what they demand from us, from mainstream society,
I´m worried about what the taint of homosexuality hysterically screams from us in the name of an ill-gotten sense of pride they do not deserve and that - to be honest about it - makes me wanna puke.

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Postby Seperates » Wed May 15, 2013 4:16 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:I don´t give a fuck whether homos are born that way or not.
I´m rather worried about what they demand from us, from mainstream society,
I´m worried about what the taint of homosexuality hysterically screams from us in the name of an ill-gotten sense of pride they do not deserve and that - to be honest about it - makes me wanna puke.

What do they demand?
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Postby Disserbia » Wed May 15, 2013 4:17 pm

Does it really matter?
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed May 15, 2013 4:17 pm

Seperates wrote:
Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:I don´t give a fuck whether homos are born that way or not.
I´m rather worried about what they demand from us, from mainstream society,
I´m worried about what the taint of homosexuality hysterically screams from us in the name of an ill-gotten sense of pride they do not deserve and that - to be honest about it - makes me wanna puke.

What do they demand?


Good question, also "ill-gotten sense of pride" what the hell does that mean?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed May 15, 2013 4:17 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:I don´t give a fuck whether homos are born that way or not.
I´m rather worried about what they demand from us, from mainstream society,
I´m worried about what the taint of homosexuality hysterically screams from us in the name of an ill-gotten sense of pride they do not deserve and that - to be honest about it - makes me wanna puke.


From what I can tell, they demand that they and their relationships be given equal treatment under the law. Of course "they" are a diverse group, and don't march lockstep, though you will tend to find reasonably strong majority opinions on certain specific issues.

And if gay pride in the face of historical oppression makes you want to puke, then go ahead and change the channel, or look the other way. Nobody's forcing you to pay attention.

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Postby Mavorpen » Wed May 15, 2013 4:17 pm

Disserbia wrote:Does it really matter?

...Of course.
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Postby Mirage » Wed May 15, 2013 4:17 pm

Seperates wrote:
Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:I don´t give a fuck whether homos are born that way or not.
I´m rather worried about what they demand from us, from mainstream society,
I´m worried about what the taint of homosexuality hysterically screams from us in the name of an ill-gotten sense of pride they do not deserve and that - to be honest about it - makes me wanna puke.

What do they demand?


Equal rights under the law. To be treated the same way as any other human being...

How dare they ?

The last part is sarcasm

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Postby Lyassa and Nairoa » Wed May 15, 2013 4:18 pm

Seperates wrote:
Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:I don´t give a fuck whether homos are born that way or not.
I´m rather worried about what they demand from us, from mainstream society,
I´m worried about what the taint of homosexuality hysterically screams from us in the name of an ill-gotten sense of pride they do not deserve and that - to be honest about it - makes me wanna puke.

What do they demand?



Recognition, just because they engage in inverted sexual practice.

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Postby Seperates » Wed May 15, 2013 4:18 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Seperates wrote:What do they demand?



Recognition, just because they engage in inverted sexual practice.

Why do they demand recognition?
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed May 15, 2013 4:19 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Seperates wrote:What do they demand?



Recognition, just because they engage in inverted sexual practice.


Then you really don't understand the demands of the LGBT community. What we want is equality not recognition. "Inverted sexual practice"?
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Postby St George » Wed May 15, 2013 4:19 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Seperates wrote:What do they demand?



Recognition, just because they engage in inverted sexual practice.

Lol.

Edit: and by lol i mean 'your position is so stupidly wrong that I can't help laugh'.

Enjoy being on the losing side of history.
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Postby Lyassa and Nairoa » Wed May 15, 2013 4:20 pm

Seperates wrote:
Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:

Recognition, just because they engage in inverted sexual practice.

Why do they demand recognition?


Ask them people, not me - I´m on the right side.

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Postby Northern Dominus » Wed May 15, 2013 4:20 pm

Disserbia wrote:Does it really matter?
That's been the thought rattling in the back of my brain as well.

So what? So fucking goddamn what if somebody likes people with the same genitalia as they have, or both sets, or etc. etc.

As long as theirs isn't getting waved in somebody's face without clear consent, what exactly is the direct harm to anybody?
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Postby Seperates » Wed May 15, 2013 4:20 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Seperates wrote:Why do they demand recognition?


Ask them people, not me - I´m on the right side.

Why do you think they want recognition?
This Debate is simply an exercise in Rhetoric. Truth is a fickle being with no intentions of showing itself today.

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Postby Neutraligon » Wed May 15, 2013 4:20 pm

Disserbia wrote:Does it really matter?


In some ways yes. unfortunately if people think of it as a choice, then they will probably simply say then there is no reason for equality, homosexuals can simply choose not to be attracted to those of the same gender. The fact that it shouldn't matter will not be brought up.
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Postby St George » Wed May 15, 2013 4:21 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Seperates wrote:Why do they demand recognition?


Ask them people, not me - I´m on the rightlosing side.

Fixed.
Bombadil wrote:To be quite honest, on any subject, around 25% of any population are batshit insane.

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Postby Neutraligon » Wed May 15, 2013 4:21 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Seperates wrote:Why do they demand recognition?


Ask them people, not me - I´m on the right side.


We are asking why you think they want recognition. Also, considering the trend, no you aren't.
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