Are homosexuals really born that way?

[Ovisterra]

So you believe things without proof. So you admit you are wildly illogical and believe fairy tales.

So you admit he did present evidence.

On the contrary :

1) I don't believe things without proof.
2) I said he didn't present any.

1) But you believe homosexuality is a choice.
2) So what in the fuck did you skim?

[Mavorpen]

I love how you try to put words in my mouth. I said you didn't present any evidence as your sources are not evidence.

And why aren't they evidence? Because you don't want them to be? Sorry, just because you reside in a bubble doesn't mean certain things don't exist.

[Mirage]

Skimming is reading!!!

Which isn't what you said. You stated that you SAID that you read it. You didn't. You said that you skimmed it. The two words aren't synonymous and they represent two different meanings.

I... really ?

[CATACOM]

Love is fueled by the reward system in the brain. Perhaps it is a born preference, or daresay a mutation, that modifies the idea of love in the reward system, thus leading to homosexuality. We may never know why it happens, but i think it does, although there may be some cases where it is a choice rather than a born alteration.

[Threlizdun]

You asked for reason to why i believe what i believe, not prove something. I am not presenting a it as a fact to provide proofs.

If you have no proof, then why do you believe it? Why do you find it more likely that people choose their sexual orientation that it is that they don't?

Cause and effect as it needs to have a specific cause.

Yes, and we are confident the cause is biological in nature.

Because that is my opinion or belief on the subject and regardless, it is still a possibility as it has not been rules out conclusively yet.

No, the idea that we choose our sexual orientation has been ruled out by any willing to acknowledge the existence of people who did not choose it (i.e. everyone).

One has to present an evidence first. (Don't bother with quoting yourself again)

*raises hand* Oh me! Pick me! I'm evidence!

[Mavorpen]

Which isn't what you said. You stated that you SAID that you read it. You didn't. You said that you skimmed it. The two words aren't synonymous and they represent two different meanings.

I... really ?

Yes, really.

[Norstal]

That's nice, your point?

Just live your life doing stuff you care about and want to do and forget everyone else...

>Goes into a debate forum.
>Asks everyone to stop debating.

Lulz.

[Azaflaza]

Other people play a big part in my life. I can't ignore them.

You can, you just chose not to. There's a difference.

[Anachronous Rex]

You said you claimed that you read it. Don't backpedal.

Skimming is reading!!!

Only in Grad School.

[Ovisterra]

You can, you just chose not to. There's a difference.

OK, I can, but it will have massive negative effects on my life as well as alienating me from those I love and care for.

[Norstal]

Which isn't what you said. You stated that you SAID that you read it. You didn't. You said that you skimmed it. The two words aren't synonymous and they represent two different meanings.

I... really ?

Skimming isn't reading. If skimming is reading, then skimming would be the same word as reading.

Derp.

[New haven america]

Half and half, some people choose to be some are born like it.

[Ovisterra]

Half and half, some people choose to be some are born like it.

Source?

[Neutraligon]

Neither of those is evidence beyond I think it is so because it makes sense to me. What do you mean cause and affect? Why do you think it is much more of a possibility?

You asked for reason to why i believe what i believe, not prove something. I am not presenting a it as a fact to provide proofs.

Cause and effect as it needs to have a specific cause.

Because that is my opinion or belief on the subject and regardless, it is still a possibility as it has not been rules out conclusively yet.

No I asked you for the reason you felt the way you did, with evidence to back it up. We are asking you what is the reason you feel the way you do beyond i feel that way because I feel that way. There are many possible causes, some of which have actual scientific backing. Basically you are saying I formed an opinion without any proof whatsoever and by god I will hold to that opinion despite evidence to the contrary.

[Lordieth]

Half and half, some people choose to be some are born like it.

Source?

People on the internet.

[Jinwoy]

It may be a bit of both.
Everyone can be measured on the kinsey scale, where fewer people will be less than 100% 99% of the time. Most people are just too stubborn/in~denial to admit it.
True 100%'ers of both sides are probably messed up somehow.

[Azaflaza]

>Goes into a debate forum.
>Asks everyone to stop debating.

Lulz.

There's a difference between debating and a bunch of stubborn people having a recurring argument that gets nobody anywhere in the discussion.

[Neutraligon]

Source?

People on the internet.

I have a bridge on mars to sell you for $500.

[Ovisterra]

There's a difference between debating and a bunch of stubborn people having a recurring argument that gets nobody anywhere in the discussion.

If there is, NSG has blurred the line to the point of irrelevance.

[Mirage]

1) But you believe homosexuality is a choice.
2) So what in the fuck did you skim?

1) Yes, because there is nothing that clearly proves that it isn't.
2) What "he" gave as evidence. Doesn't mean it is.

You asked for reason to why i believe what i believe, not prove something. I am not presenting a it as a fact to provide proofs.

If you have no proof, then why do you believe it? Why do you find it more likely that people choose their sexual orientation that it is that they don't?

Cause and effect as it needs to have a specific cause.

Yes, and we are confident the cause is biological in nature.

Because that is my opinion or belief on the subject and regardless, it is still a possibility as it has not been rules out conclusively yet.

No, the idea that we choose our sexual orientation has been ruled out by any willing to acknowledge the existence of people who did not choose it (i.e. everyone).

One has to present an evidence first. (Don't bother with quoting yourself again)

*raises hand* Oh me! Pick me! I'm evidence!

1) Why do you believe the opposite case to be true when there is no proof for that either.
2) Doesn't mean that it is true. It could be false too.
3) who think they did not choose it.

[Norstal]

You asked for reason to why i believe what i believe, not prove something. I am not presenting a it as a fact to provide proofs.

Cause and effect as it needs to have a specific cause.

Because that is my opinion or belief on the subject and regardless, it is still a possibility as it has not been rules out conclusively yet.

No I asked you for the reason you felt the way you did, with evidence to back it up. We are asking you what is the reason you feel the way you do beyond i feel that way because I feel that way. There are many possible causes, some of which have actual scientific backing. Basically you are saying I formed an opinion without any proof whatsoever and by god I will hold to that opinion despite evidence to the contrary.

I think the poster doesn't understand that this is a debate forum and thinks that posting opinions means that you should get no opposition.

Can we just have, upon entering this forum, 100 pop-ups saying in 1000x1000 pixels, "THIS IS A DEBATE FORUM"?

[Anachronous Rex]

Half and half, some people choose to be some are born like it.

Source?

You have to be careful with this, because it's not necessarily an unreasonable thing to say (I mean, the numbers are clearly pulled right out of his ass), but sexuality is to some extent a choice, just not in the meaningful way that...

Oh, fuck it, I'll let Dan Savage explain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2sIf_sVYuc

[Yumyumsuppertime]

People on the internet.

I have a bridge on mars to sell you for $500.

Don't believe him.

He sold it to me yesterday for a sandwich, and now he's double-dipping.

[Neutraligon]

There's a difference between debating and a bunch of stubborn people having a recurring argument that gets nobody anywhere in the discussion.

If there is, NSG has blurred the line to the point of irrelevance.

I thought the point of NSG was to have the same argument with people where nobody gets anywhere. It is a known fact that we all have the hobby of beating a dead horse.

[Ovisterra]

1) But you believe homosexuality is a choice.
2) So what in the fuck did you skim?

1) Yes, because there is nothing that clearly proves that it isn't.
2) What "he" gave as evidence. Doesn't mean it is.

1)But there's not proof it is. Which directly contradicts your assertion that you don't believe things without proof.

At this point, your options are:

-Provide proof
-Admit you were bullshitting

2)How isn't it?