Are homosexuals really born that way?

[Mirage]

There has to be a reason you believe it is a choice. Back up your belief. You might not be ruling out anything, but you made the claim you think it has a specific cause, now explain with evidence why you think it does.

As for the reason, out of all the possibilities, choice sounds much more of a possibility to me. That is all.

As for evidence to having a cause, i fail to see how "cause and effect" is not applicable here.

[Neutraligon]

There has to be a reason you believe it is a choice. Back up your belief. You might not be ruling out anything, but you made the claim you think it has a specific cause, now explain with evidence why you think it does.

As for the reason, out of all the possibilities, choice sounds much more of a possibility to me. That is all.

As for evidence to having a cause, i fail to see how "cause and effect" is not applicable here.

Neither of those is evidence beyond I think it is so because it makes sense to me. What do you mean cause and affect? Why do you think it is much more of a possibility?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Yes you are. You admitted yourself, you refuse to even read the sources you have been provided with.

No i am not, i even stated it clearly.

And as i said, i did read those sources.

But whatever...

No, you said that you skimmed the sources.

If you read them, then argue against their evidence with your own evidence.

If not, then don't claim that you did.

Either way, the burden of proof is now on you to prove that it is a choice, especially since that flies in the face of all modern scientific research into the topic. So link your evidence. Not just "This is what I believe", but explain why you believe it despite your belief contradicting every single major study regarding homosexuality, and additionally going against the statements of every major American medical organization. Where are your links to peer-reviewed studies, to papers, to evidence? Show us!

[Mirage]

You should quit it with this persistent lying habit of yours.

Skimming :

4. To read or glance through (a book, for example) quickly or superficially

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/skimmed+over

[Mavorpen]

As for the reason, out of all the possibilities, choice sounds much more of a possibility to me. That is all.

So basically, when presented with evidence, you put your fingers into your ear screaming, 'LALALALALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

[Nadkor]

Right enough, you're the Irish-born American wheelchair-bound Iraq vet in his late 20's/early 30s with several degrees (medicine, linguistics, and history, no? Or was one of them counter-terrorism?), a wife, and a couple of girlfriends, and who has delivered two babies, can dead-lift 250kg, who speaks seven languages fluently, and who, despite having no legs, paints his toenails?

Don't forget being born simultaneously in NI to RoI hating parents fleeing to abort him and also in the republic. It's a miracle.

Born in both Derry and Shannon, 175 miles apart, wasn't it?

[The Emerald Dawn]

As for the reason, out of all the possibilities, choice sounds much more of a possibility to me. That is all.

So basically, when presented with evidence, you put your fingers into your ear screaming, 'LALALALALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

Why are you quoting the definition of Conservativism?

[Ovisterra]

You should quit it with this persistent lying habit of yours.

Skimming :

4. To read or glance through (a book, for example) quickly or superficially

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/skimmed+over

I think he's alluding that you didn't skim either.

[Mavorpen]

You should quit it with this persistent lying habit of yours.

Skimming :

4. To read or glance through (a book, for example) quickly or superficially

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/skimmed+over

You said you claimed that you read it. Don't backpedal.

[Neutraligon]

Don't forget being born simultaneously in NI to RoI hating parents fleeing to abort him and also in the republic. It's a miracle.

Born in both Derry and Shannon, 175 miles apart, wasn't it?

Nadkor enough please. There is no reason to keep doing this.

[Azaflaza]

People seriously ......yolo

[Neutraligon]

People seriously ......yolo

That's nice, your point?

[Ovisterra]

People seriously ......yolo

Exactly, and I'm damned if I'm going to sit here and let people be ignorant for the next 70 years.

[Blekksprutia]

Probably not. More scientific research needed. I know some gay people who have no other gay people in their family, and vice versa.

[Mirage]

Neither of those is evidence beyond I think it is so because it makes sense to me. What do you mean cause and affect? Why do you think it is much more of a possibility?

You asked for reason to why i believe what i believe, not prove something. I am not presenting a it as a fact to provide proofs.

Cause and effect as it needs to have a specific cause.

Because that is my opinion or belief on the subject and regardless, it is still a possibility as it has not been rules out conclusively yet.

As for the reason, out of all the possibilities, choice sounds much more of a possibility to me. That is all.

So basically, when presented with evidence, you put your fingers into your ear screaming, 'LALALALALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

One has to present an evidence first. (Don't bother with quoting yourself again)

[Ovisterra]

Neither of those is evidence beyond I think it is so because it makes sense to me. What do you mean cause and affect? Why do you think it is much more of a possibility?

You asked for reason to why i believe what i believe, not prove something. I am not presenting a it as a fact to provide proofs.

Cause and effect as it needs to have a specific cause.

Because that is my opinion or belief on the subject and regardless, it is still a possibility as it has not been rules out conclusively yet.

So you believe things without proof. So you admit you are wildly illogical and believe fairy tales.

So basically, when presented with evidence, you put your fingers into your ear screaming, 'LALALALALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

One has to present an evidence first. (Don't bother with quoting yourself again)

So you admit he did present evidence.

[Mirage]

Skimming :

4. To read or glance through (a book, for example) quickly or superficially

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/skimmed+over

You said you claimed that you read it. Don't backpedal.

Skimming is reading!!!

[Nadkor]

Born in both Derry and Shannon, 175 miles apart, wasn't it?

Nadkor enough please. There is no reason to keep doing this.

I just find it all very interesting.

[Mavorpen]

One has to present an evidence first. (Don't bother with quoting yourself again)

I love how you ADMIT that I've presented evidence, while claiming that I haven't.

And you seriously expect me to believe that you read them?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Neither of those is evidence beyond I think it is so because it makes sense to me. What do you mean cause and affect? Why do you think it is much more of a possibility?

You asked for reason to why i believe what i believe, not prove something. I am not presenting a it as a fact to provide proofs.

Cause and effect as it needs to have a specific cause.

Because that is my opinion or belief on the subject and regardless, it is still a possibility as it has not been rules out conclusively yet.

So basically, when presented with evidence, you put your fingers into your ear screaming, 'LALALALALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

One has to present an evidence first. (Don't bother with quoting yourself again)

The evidence has been presented.

You skimmed it, remember?

The fact that you couldn't be bothered to read it in any detail doesn't mean that it wasn't presented.

[Azaflaza]

People seriously ......yolo

That's nice, your point?

Just live your life doing stuff you care about and want to do and forget everyone else...

[Mavorpen]

You said you claimed that you read it. Don't backpedal.

Skimming is reading!!!

Which isn't what you said. You stated that you SAID that you read it. You didn't. You said that you skimmed it. The two words aren't synonymous and they represent two different meanings.

[Ovisterra]

That's nice, your point?

Just live your life doing stuff you care about and want to do and forget everyone else...

Other people play a big part in my life. I can't ignore them.

[Norstal]

You said you claimed that you read it. Don't backpedal.

Skimming is reading!!!

Ok. I'll skim your posts from now on.

[Mirage]

So you believe things without proof. So you admit you are wildly illogical and believe fairy tales.

So you admit he did present evidence.

On the contrary :

1) I don't believe things without proof.
2) I said he didn't present any.

One has to present an evidence first. (Don't bother with quoting yourself again)

I love how you ADMIT that I've presented evidence, while claiming that I haven't.

And you seriously expect me to believe that you read them?

I love how you try to put words in my mouth. I said you didn't present any evidence as your sources are not evidence.