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Is there a gay gene?

Yes
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No
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More study is needed to determine
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Neutraligon
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed May 15, 2013 4:49 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Why the are citizens of the united states and have (should have) all the rights and responsibilities that entails. We are no different from you, xcept we find different people attractive.


No, you find the WRONG people attractive...if you find people same sex people attractive, why don´t realise there´s something wrong with you ?
Why do you feel proud about it ? Is it a way to catharsis the shame ?


Because there is nothing wrong in who they find attractive. Because there isn't anything wrong with me. Because I feel no shame in whom I find attractive. I am pansexual, there is no shame in this. Don't like it, to bad. Doesn't change the fact that we are equal citizens of the United States. i pay my taxes and should get equal rights and protections.
Last edited by Neutraligon on Wed May 15, 2013 4:52 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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New Libertarian States
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Postby New Libertarian States » Wed May 15, 2013 4:49 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Why the are citizens of the united states and have (should have) all the rights and responsibilities that entails. We are no different from you, xcept we find different people attractive.


No, you find the WRONG people attractive...if you find people same sex people attractive, why don´t realise there´s something wrong with you ?
Why do you feel proud about it ? Is it a way to catharsis the shame ?

Right and wrong are subjective.
So ummmm.... Yeah there's that.
Also, who are you to judge right and wrong? Are you Cthulu?
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed May 15, 2013 4:52 pm

New Libertarian States wrote:
Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
No, you find the WRONG people attractive...if you find people same sex people attractive, why don´t realise there´s something wrong with you ?
Why do you feel proud about it ? Is it a way to catharsis the shame ?

Right and wrong are subjective.
So ummmm.... Yeah there's that.
Also, who are you to judge right and wrong? Are you Cthulu?


Doubtful.

Cthulhu attracts followers.

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Postby New Libertarian States » Wed May 15, 2013 4:53 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:Right and wrong are subjective.
So ummmm.... Yeah there's that.
Also, who are you to judge right and wrong? Are you Cthulu?


Doubtful.

Cthulhu attracts followers.

Dammit, I had a welcoming banner and everything.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
23:07 Unibot If an article could have a sack of testicles - it would.

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Postby Euroslavia » Wed May 15, 2013 4:54 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
No, you find the WRONG people attractive...if you find people same sex people attractive, why don´t realise there´s something wrong with you ?
Why do you feel proud about it ? Is it a way to catharsis the shame ?

Wrong people, according to who? You? A religion that not everyone in this country follows? Why should I have to abide by your opinion/religious beliefs?
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Wed May 15, 2013 4:55 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:Right and wrong are subjective.
So ummmm.... Yeah there's that.
Also, who are you to judge right and wrong? Are you Cthulu?


Doubtful.

Cthulhu attracts followers.

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Postby New Libertarian States » Wed May 15, 2013 4:55 pm

Euroslavia wrote:
Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
No, you find the WRONG people attractive...if you find people same sex people attractive, why don´t realise there´s something wrong with you ?
Why do you feel proud about it ? Is it a way to catharsis the shame ?

Wrong people, according to who? You? A religion that not everyone in this country follows? Why should I have to abide by your opinion/religious beliefs?

BECAUSE JEBUS AND SHELLFISH.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
23:07 Unibot If an article could have a sack of testicles - it would.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed May 15, 2013 4:55 pm

Euroslavia wrote:
Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
No, you find the WRONG people attractive...if you find people same sex people attractive, why don´t realise there´s something wrong with you ?
Why do you feel proud about it ? Is it a way to catharsis the shame ?

Wrong people, according to who? You? A religion that not everyone in this country follows? Why should I have to abide by your opinion/religious beliefs?

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Lyassa and Nairoa
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Postby Lyassa and Nairoa » Wed May 15, 2013 4:56 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
No, you find the WRONG people attractive...if you find people same sex people attractive, why don´t realise there´s something wrong with you ?
Why do you feel proud about it ? Is it a way to catharsis the shame ?


Because there is nothing wrong who they find attractive. Because there isn't anything wrong with me. Because I feel no shame in whom I find attractive. I am pansexual, there is no shame in this.


Your sexual defect blinds you people.
It´s not your fault. I´m just so glad I wasn´t born like you.

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Postby New Libertarian States » Wed May 15, 2013 4:57 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Because there is nothing wrong who they find attractive. Because there isn't anything wrong with me. Because I feel no shame in whom I find attractive. I am pansexual, there is no shame in this.


Your sexual defect blinds you people.
It´s not your fault. I´m just so glad I wasn´t born like you.

*slowly points to nature*
Nature seems to be fine with it.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
23:07 Unibot If an article could have a sack of testicles - it would.

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Postby Seperates » Wed May 15, 2013 4:59 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Because there is nothing wrong who they find attractive. Because there isn't anything wrong with me. Because I feel no shame in whom I find attractive. I am pansexual, there is no shame in this.


Your sexual defect blinds you people.
It´s not your fault. I´m just so glad I wasn´t born like you.

I am straight. I don't see another orientation as a defect, it just isn't me.

Or am I blind as well? And what causes this supposed blindness?
This Debate is simply an exercise in Rhetoric. Truth is a fickle being with no intentions of showing itself today.

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Lyassa and Nairoa
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Postby Lyassa and Nairoa » Wed May 15, 2013 4:59 pm

Euroslavia wrote:
Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
No, you find the WRONG people attractive...if you find people same sex people attractive, why don´t realise there´s something wrong with you ?
Why do you feel proud about it ? Is it a way to catharsis the shame ?

Wrong people, according to who? You? A religion that not everyone in this country follows? Why should I have to abide by your opinion/religious beliefs?


Look now, mr. Moderator sir or m´am, I didn´t throw a a religion argument here, have I ?
I meant homos crave sex with the wrong GENDER.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed May 15, 2013 5:00 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Euroslavia wrote:Wrong people, according to who? You? A religion that not everyone in this country follows? Why should I have to abide by your opinion/religious beliefs?


Look now, mr. Moderator sir or m´am, I didn´t throw a a religion argument here, have I ?
I meant homos crave sex with the wrong GENDER.


Wrong according to who or what?

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Postby New Libertarian States » Wed May 15, 2013 5:01 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Euroslavia wrote:Wrong people, according to who? You? A religion that not everyone in this country follows? Why should I have to abide by your opinion/religious beliefs?


Look now, mr. Moderator sir or m´am, I didn´t throw a a religion argument here, have I ?
I meant homos crave sex with the wrong GENDER.

Your not addressing the question.
And from the look of your sig, it SEEMS religion is the reason.
Wrong,according to who, is the question.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
23:07 Unibot If an article could have a sack of testicles - it would.

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Postby Thoricia » Wed May 15, 2013 5:01 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Euroslavia wrote:Wrong people, according to who? You? A religion that not everyone in this country follows? Why should I have to abide by your opinion/religious beliefs?


Look now, mr. Moderator sir or m´am, I didn´t throw a a religion argument here, have I ?
I meant homos crave sex with the wrong GENDER.

Why is it wrong?
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Lyassa and Nairoa
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Postby Lyassa and Nairoa » Wed May 15, 2013 5:02 pm

Seperates wrote:
Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Your sexual defect blinds you people.
It´s not your fault. I´m just so glad I wasn´t born like you.

I am straight. I don't see another orientation as a defect, it just isn't me.

Or am I blind as well? And what causes this supposed blindness?


If you support homo "rights" then your concept of sexuality is clouded.Blurred.

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Postby New Libertarian States » Wed May 15, 2013 5:03 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Seperates wrote:I am straight. I don't see another orientation as a defect, it just isn't me.

Or am I blind as well? And what causes this supposed blindness?


If you support homo "rights" then your concept of sexuality is clouded.Blurred.

Because.... Why?
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
23:07 Unibot If an article could have a sack of testicles - it would.

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Neutraligon
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed May 15, 2013 5:05 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Because there is nothing wrong who they find attractive. Because there isn't anything wrong with me. Because I feel no shame in whom I find attractive. I am pansexual, there is no shame in this.


Your sexual defect blinds you people.
It´s not your fault. I´m just so glad I wasn´t born like you.


not really. I see no harm in it, and i don't see how it is any of your business who I am attracted to you. Be glad all you want it is not a defect.
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Seperates
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Postby Seperates » Wed May 15, 2013 5:05 pm

Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Seperates wrote:I am straight. I don't see another orientation as a defect, it just isn't me.

Or am I blind as well? And what causes this supposed blindness?


If you support homo "rights" then your concept of sexuality is clouded.Blurred.

Then why is that?

Oh, and I think that Matthew 7:3 (Or Luke 6:42, whatever your preference) may be relevent here.
This Debate is simply an exercise in Rhetoric. Truth is a fickle being with no intentions of showing itself today.

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Postby Velthannen » Wed May 15, 2013 5:06 pm

Cosara wrote:
Garwall wrote:No.

/thread
(Yes, it really is that simple)

^This.

source?
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Postby New Libertarian States » Wed May 15, 2013 5:07 pm

Seperates wrote:
Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
If you support homo "rights" then your concept of sexuality is clouded.Blurred.

Then why is that?

Oh, and I think that Matthew 7:3 (Or Luke 6:42, whatever your preference) may be relevent here.

Or maybe John 8:7
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
23:07 Unibot If an article could have a sack of testicles - it would.

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Postby New Libertarian States » Wed May 15, 2013 5:07 pm

Velthannen wrote:
Cosara wrote:^This.

source?

Because the gays are yicky.
Obivously.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
23:07 Unibot If an article could have a sack of testicles - it would.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed May 15, 2013 5:08 pm

New Libertarian States wrote:
Velthannen wrote:source?

Because the gays are yicky.
Obivously.


And gross. Let's not forget gross.

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Postby New Libertarian States » Wed May 15, 2013 5:08 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:Because the gays are yicky.
Obivously.


And gross. Let's not forget gross.

Indeed.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
23:07 Unibot If an article could have a sack of testicles - it would.

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Lyassa and Nairoa
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Postby Lyassa and Nairoa » Wed May 15, 2013 5:09 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Lyassa and Nairoa wrote:
Your sexual defect blinds you people.
It´s not your fault. I´m just so glad I wasn´t born like you.


not really. I see no harm in it, and i don't see how it is any of your business who I am attracted to you. Be glad all you want it is not a defect.


What ??
Hmmm....I´m flattered but...thanks but no, thanks. I´d rather wank for the rest of my life. Or be a celibate, as I am already.

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