Obama Impeachment

[Liriena]

If incompetence was a high crime, than we'd be out most of about two-thirds of the Federal government. The only competent thing Obama did was ordering the killing of bin Ladin

Bullshit.

[Ethel mermania]

no, we shot reagen for those gun control measures.

or was it jodi foster, i get confused.

Did you hear her at the Oscars? I think SHE gets confused

she went to yale. NYU drama school students give much better speeches.

[Neo Art]

how do we know she is a witch?

Well, I do weigh the same as a duck...

she turned me into a newt!

[Nadkor]

No there is no proof that he broke a law, and beside the Dems control the Senate so it won't happen

What does the Senate have to do with impeachment?

[Algonquin Ascendancy]

So... Do they have any actionable charges and proof for said charges?

If not, why the fuck should anybody give this any credence?

Non, and you shouldn't.

[Blekksprutia]

Would that mean President Biden?

In the bizarro world most of the "Impeach Obama" crowd live it in it would mean the republicans just get to pick who they want as president I'm sure.

Obviously I'm not going to support a Republican candidate unless he's like SUPER-moderate...

[Ethel mermania]

how do we know she is a witch?

Well, I do weigh the same as a duck...

burn her, burn her

[Ethel mermania]

Well, I do weigh the same as a duck...

she turned me into a newt!

thats a carrot on your nose.

[Hittanryan]

Republicans didn't get all up in arms when Reagan signed gun control legislation into law, and Obama hasn't even signed anything. Besides, when's the last time you saw a state militia? Get over it.

News flash: People who get up in arms over "obeying the Constitution" typically don't really give a fuck about the Constitution and what it stands for, only how to exploit it for their own agenda.

In other words, partisan hacks. I remain convinced that Republicans who try to act all outraged over drones and indefinite detention would have been (or were) the strongest supporters of those measures while Bush was in office.

[Athorack]

Impeachment in the United States is an expressed power of the legislature that allows for formal charges against a civil officer of government for crimes committed in office. The actual trial on those charges, and subsequent removal of an official on conviction on those charges, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.

Impeachment is analogous to indictment in regular court proceedings, while trial by the other house is analogous to the trial before judge and jury in regular courts. Typically, the lower house of the legislature will impeach the official and the upper house will conduct the trial.

At the federal level, Article II of the United States Constitution (Section 4) states that "The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors." The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeaching, while the United States Senate has the sole power to try all impeachments. The removal of impeached officials is automatic upon conviction in the Senate. In Nixon v. United States (1993), the Supreme Court determined that the federal judiciary cannot review such proceedings.

Impeachment can also occur at the state level; state legislatures can impeach state officials, including governors, according to their respective state constitutions.

At the Philadelphia Convention, Benjamin Franklin noted that, historically, the removal of “obnoxious” chief executives had been accomplished by assassination. Franklin suggested that a proceduralized mechanism for removal — impeachment — would be preferable.

[Death Metal]

News flash: People who get up in arms over "obeying the Constitution" typically don't really give a fuck about the Constitution and what it stands for, only how to exploit it for their own agenda.

In other words, partisan hacks. I remain convinced that Republicans who try to act all outraged over drones and indefinite detention would have been (or were) the strongest supporters of those measures while Bush was in office.

All the rightists were, from McCain to Beck to the Pauls and other Randians. Liberty isn't their concern, being in power is.

[Ethel mermania]

News flash: People who get up in arms over "obeying the Constitution" typically don't really give a fuck about the Constitution and what it stands for, only how to exploit it for their own agenda.

In other words, partisan hacks. I remain convinced that Republicans who try to act all outraged over drones and indefinite detention would have been (or were) the strongest supporters of those measures while Bush was in office.

most of that bitching is from the extreme ends of both parties. mainstrean republicans and democrats support it. our libyan intervention was pretty much unconstitutional but Obama did chat with the repubblican leadership and they were for it. if anything he did not go far enough for them.

[Death Metal]

In other words, partisan hacks. I remain convinced that Republicans who try to act all outraged over drones and indefinite detention would have been (or were) the strongest supporters of those measures while Bush was in office.

most of that bitching is from the extreme ends of both parties. mainstrean republicans and democrats support it. our libyan intervention was pretty much unconstitutional but Obama did chat with the repubblican leadership and they were for it. if anything he did not go far enough for them.

No. What was done in Libya was no different than what was done by the US in WWII before Pearl Harbor.

[Wikkiwallana]

He should be because he swore an oath to the Constitution and is therefore breaking that oath by pro-gun control measures. Shall not be infringed means shall not be infringed.

That's not how it works.

[Khadgar]

In other words, partisan hacks. I remain convinced that Republicans who try to act all outraged over drones and indefinite detention would have been (or were) the strongest supporters of those measures while Bush was in office.

most of that bitching is from the extreme ends of both parties. mainstrean republicans and democrats support it. our libyan intervention was pretty much unconstitutional but Obama did chat with the repubblican leadership and they were for it. if anything he did not go far enough for them.

I thought the president had the power to use military forces for a limited period without a declaration of war.

[Wikkiwallana]

No there is no proof that he broke a law, and beside the Dems control the Senate so it won't happen

Yeah, finding proof of non-events is pretty hard.

[Wikkiwallana]

Impeachment in the United States is an expressed power of the legislature that allows for formal charges against a civil officer of government for crimes committed in office. The actual trial on those charges, and subsequent removal of an official on conviction on those charges, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.

Impeachment is analogous to indictment in regular court proceedings, while trial by the other house is analogous to the trial before judge and jury in regular courts. Typically, the lower house of the legislature will impeach the official and the upper house will conduct the trial.

At the federal level, Article II of the United States Constitution (Section 4) states that "The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors." The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeaching, while the United States Senate has the sole power to try all impeachments. The removal of impeached officials is automatic upon conviction in the Senate. In Nixon v. United States (1993), the Supreme Court determined that the federal judiciary cannot review such proceedings.

Impeachment can also occur at the state level; state legislatures can impeach state officials, including governors, according to their respective state constitutions.

At the Philadelphia Convention, Benjamin Franklin noted that, historically, the removal of “obnoxious” chief executives had been accomplished by assassination. Franklin suggested that a proceduralized mechanism for removal — impeachment — would be preferable.

Thank you, Captain Encyclopedia, what would we have done without you?

[Khadgar]

Impeachment in the United States is an expressed power of the legislature that allows for formal charges against a civil officer of government for crimes committed in office. The actual trial on those charges, and subsequent removal of an official on conviction on those charges, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.

Impeachment is analogous to indictment in regular court proceedings, while trial by the other house is analogous to the trial before judge and jury in regular courts. Typically, the lower house of the legislature will impeach the official and the upper house will conduct the trial.

At the federal level, Article II of the United States Constitution (Section 4) states that "The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors." The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeaching, while the United States Senate has the sole power to try all impeachments. The removal of impeached officials is automatic upon conviction in the Senate. In Nixon v. United States (1993), the Supreme Court determined that the federal judiciary cannot review such proceedings.

Impeachment can also occur at the state level; state legislatures can impeach state officials, including governors, according to their respective state constitutions.

At the Philadelphia Convention, Benjamin Franklin noted that, historically, the removal of “obnoxious” chief executives had been accomplished by assassination. Franklin suggested that a proceduralized mechanism for removal — impeachment — would be preferable.

Thank you, Captain Encyclopedia, what would we have done without you?

Scurried off to Wikipedia I'd imagine.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

This thread was hilarious for a while, then it just got depressing. I don't expect every American to be fully aware of the causes and mechanics for impeachment, but I would like it if they were aware of such matters before stating an opinion as to whether or not a President can be impeached.

Here's what a President can be impeached for: High crimes and misdemeanors, treason, or bribery.

Here's what a President cannot be impeached for: Signing legislation you don't like, using any power given to him by Congress (unless the Supreme Court has stated that such powers are unconstitutional), suggesting legislation you don't like, being someone you don't like, being a color you don't like, thinking something that you don't like, or because you think that someday maybe he or she will do something worthy of impeachment.

Every single reason that I've seen listed for impeaching the President has fallen into the second category. None have fallen into the first.

[ALMF]

Obama impeachment is definrify possible with Rep. going which makes me that it very well could happen. Your thoughts? I think it is possible because it will be at a standstill in Wash. because you need 60 votes but it most likely wont happen at first but I don't know about my view on this
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/5 ... t.html.csp
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/20 ... r-benghazi
http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/05/13/its ... ent-obama/

1)you knead 67 votes not 60.
2)He is the LEAST impeachment worthy president in my lifetime. (not that that's a high standard since 1980)

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Obama impeachment is definrify possible with Rep. going which makes me that it very well could happen. Your thoughts? I think it is possible because it will be at a standstill in Wash. because you need 60 votes but it most likely wont happen at first but I don't know about my view on this
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/5 ... t.html.csp
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/20 ... r-benghazi
http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/05/13/its ... ent-obama/

1)you knead 67 votes not 60.
2)He is the LEAST impeachment worthy president in my lifetime. (not that that's a high standard since 1980)

George H. Bush (1989-1993) wasn't great, but he didn't do anything worthy of impeachment to my recollection.

[ALMF]

This thread was hilarious for a while, then it just got depressing. I don't expect every American to be fully aware of the causes and mechanics for impeachment, but I would like it if they were aware of such matters before stating an opinion as to whether or not a President can be impeached.

Here's what a President can be impeached for: High crimes and misdemeanors, treason, or bribery.

Here's what a President cannot be impeached for: Signing legislation you don't like, using any power given to him by Congress (unless the Supreme Court has stated that such powers are unconstitutional), suggesting legislation you don't like, being someone you don't like, being a color you don't like, thinking something that you don't like, or because you think that someday maybe he or she will do something worthy of impeachment.

Every single reason that I've seen listed for impeaching the President has fallen into the second category. None have fallen into the first.

to be fair, both impeachments have been for cat 2 with flimsy excuses in cat 1.

[The Emerald Dawn]

This thread was hilarious for a while, then it just got depressing. I don't expect every American to be fully aware of the causes and mechanics for impeachment, but I would like it if they were aware of such matters before stating an opinion as to whether or not a President can be impeached.

Here's what a President can be impeached for: High crimes and misdemeanors, treason, or bribery.

Here's what a President cannot be impeached for: Signing legislation you don't like, using any power given to him by Congress (unless the Supreme Court has stated that such powers are unconstitutional), suggesting legislation you don't like, being someone you don't like, being a color you don't like, thinking something that you don't like, or because you think that someday maybe he or she will do something worthy of impeachment.

Every single reason that I've seen listed for impeaching the President has fallen into the second category. None have fallen into the first.

You want to be more depressed? So far the people with the best knowledge of the US impeachment process are non-US citizens, or immigrants.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

This thread was hilarious for a while, then it just got depressing. I don't expect every American to be fully aware of the causes and mechanics for impeachment, but I would like it if they were aware of such matters before stating an opinion as to whether or not a President can be impeached.

Here's what a President can be impeached for: High crimes and misdemeanors, treason, or bribery.

Here's what a President cannot be impeached for: Signing legislation you don't like, using any power given to him by Congress (unless the Supreme Court has stated that such powers are unconstitutional), suggesting legislation you don't like, being someone you don't like, being a color you don't like, thinking something that you don't like, or because you think that someday maybe he or she will do something worthy of impeachment.

Every single reason that I've seen listed for impeaching the President has fallen into the second category. None have fallen into the first.

You want to be more depressed? So far the people with the best knowledge of the US impeachment process are non-US citizens, or immigrants.

And even more depressing than that is my total lack of surprise at that information.

[Enadail]

This thread was hilarious for a while, then it just got depressing. I don't expect every American to be fully aware of the causes and mechanics for impeachment, but I would like it if they were aware of such matters before stating an opinion as to whether or not a President can be impeached.

Here's what a President can be impeached for: High crimes and misdemeanors, treason, or bribery.

Here's what a President cannot be impeached for: Signing legislation you don't like, using any power given to him by Congress (unless the Supreme Court has stated that such powers are unconstitutional), suggesting legislation you don't like, being someone you don't like, being a color you don't like, thinking something that you don't like, or because you think that someday maybe he or she will do something worthy of impeachment.

Every single reason that I've seen listed for impeaching the President has fallen into the second category. None have fallen into the first.

You want to be more depressed? So far the people with the best knowledge of the US impeachment process are non-US citizens, or immigrants.

Typically, people who aren't in a system know more about it if they're trying to figure it out (more arduous study). And of course, many immigrants to the US learn it for the day they'll either become citizens or to integrate, not realizing the Americans they're talking to don't know what they're talking about anyway