Sibirsky wrote:Personal attacks are against. I suggest you familiarize yourself with them.
That's not a personal attack. That's attacking your ethos, which is a legitimate debate tactic.
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by Mavorpen » Tue May 14, 2013 11:20 am
Sibirsky wrote:Personal attacks are against. I suggest you familiarize yourself with them.

by Immoren » Tue May 14, 2013 11:20 am
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

by Neo Art » Tue May 14, 2013 11:21 am

by Ethel mermania » Tue May 14, 2013 11:21 am
Mike the Progressive wrote:Orcoa wrote:From the way he posts and what he says...I think I can get a good clear idea of what he thinks.
You certainly can, which is why I said he is most likely an atheist and hardly right-winged. Sarcasm is sarcasm and judging somebody by their name or a few posts in one thread is about as annoying as somebody presuming you're a "progressive" because that word happens to be in your NS name.

by Nadkor » Tue May 14, 2013 11:21 am
Mike the Progressive wrote:Nadkor wrote:
I'd rather let SCOTUS, the actual people whose job it is to say so, be the judge of that. You not liking what he does =/= what he does being unconstitutional.
Presuming unconstitutional actions are a high crime, and the president is committing such crimes frequently, then what would SCOTUS have anything to do with whether the president should be charged (impeached) and convicted (removed), except the CJ's ceremonial role during such cases in the senate?

by Imperium of the Gliusor Species » Tue May 14, 2013 11:21 am

by Khadgar » Tue May 14, 2013 11:22 am
Sibirsky wrote:The Emerald Dawn wrote:Ok Captain Silver Medal, it should be easy for you to name at least 20 then.
Personal attacks are against. I suggest you familiarize yourself with them.
As for Obama, try the claims of legal authority to indefinitely detain and murder American citizens, without due process of law.

by Antic Master Fegelein » Tue May 14, 2013 11:23 am
Neo Art wrote:Antic Master Fegelein wrote:
not to mention the list that everyone on here made, all those apply too. *nods*
Your signature interests me. Apparently within the space of approximately three weeks and 40 posts, you have apparently been called a nazi with such frequency that you feel it necessary to put a pre-emptive warning there.
You're going to be an entertaining one, aren't you?
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by Orcoa » Tue May 14, 2013 11:23 am
Ethel mermania wrote:Mike the Progressive wrote:
You certainly can, which is why I said he is most likely an atheist and hardly right-winged. Sarcasm is sarcasm and judging somebody by their name or a few posts in one thread is about as annoying as somebody presuming you're a "progressive" because that word happens to be in your NS name.
i always judged you as a ghost president speaking to us from the other side.


by Nadkor » Tue May 14, 2013 11:23 am
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Sibirsky wrote:Personal attacks are against. I suggest you familiarize yourself with them.
As for Obama, try the claims of legal authority to indefinitely detain and murder American citizens, without due process of law.
Uh huh. See, you have this braggadocios claim in your bumper that shows you're a Silver Medal debater. That's not a personal attack to point it out. Nice try though.

by Trotskylvania » Tue May 14, 2013 11:23 am
Imperium of the Gliusor Species wrote:Plan of the republicans to do stupid shit.
No. He hasn't done anything illegal.
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by Mike the Progressive » Tue May 14, 2013 11:24 am
Nadkor wrote:Mike the Progressive wrote:
Presuming unconstitutional actions are a high crime, and the president is committing such crimes frequently, then what would SCOTUS have anything to do with whether the president should be charged (impeached) and convicted (removed), except the CJ's ceremonial role during such cases in the senate?
Ehh...eh?
Where did I say they anything like that?

by Neo Art » Tue May 14, 2013 11:24 am
Nadkor wrote:The Emerald Dawn wrote:Uh huh. See, you have this braggadocios claim in your bumper that shows you're a Silver Medal debater. That's not a personal attack to point it out. Nice try though.
I kinda always think that if you have to go around saying "No, I swear; I am good at debating! Some people on the internet said so!" then, well, you're probably not.

by Ethel mermania » Tue May 14, 2013 11:24 am

by The Marxist State » Tue May 14, 2013 11:25 am
Mike the Progressive wrote:Nadkor wrote:
I'd rather let SCOTUS, the actual people whose job it is to say so, be the judge of that. You not liking what he does =/= what he does being unconstitutional.
Presuming unconstitutional actions are a high crime, and the president is committing such crimes frequently, then what would SCOTUS have anything to do with whether the president should be charged (impeached) and convicted (removed), except the CJ's ceremonial role during such cases in the senate?
by Sibirsky » Tue May 14, 2013 11:25 am
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Sibirsky wrote:Personal attacks are against. I suggest you familiarize yourself with them.
As for Obama, try the claims of legal authority to indefinitely detain and murder American citizens, without due process of law.
Uh huh. See, you have this braggadocios claim in your bumper that shows you're a Silver Medal debater. That's not a personal attack to point it out. Nice try though.
And, which AMCITs has he murdered, exactly?

by Mike the Progressive » Tue May 14, 2013 11:26 am
The Marxist State wrote:Mike the Progressive wrote:
Presuming unconstitutional actions are a high crime, and the president is committing such crimes frequently, then what would SCOTUS have anything to do with whether the president should be charged (impeached) and convicted (removed), except the CJ's ceremonial role during such cases in the senate?
What Nadkor was saying is that SCOTUS can rule executive orders or legislation signed by the President unconstitutional without removing him from office.
by Sibirsky » Tue May 14, 2013 11:26 am


by Mavorpen » Tue May 14, 2013 11:27 am

by Nadkor » Tue May 14, 2013 11:27 am
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Sib said almost everything Obama does is unconstitutional. You replied you'd rather let SCOTUS determine that. And based on the assumption that everything Obama does is unconstitutional and unconstitutional actions constitutes a high crime, then on a thread about impeachment, wouldn't the legislature be in charge of determining his guilt or innocence?

by The Godly Nations » Tue May 14, 2013 11:28 am
Sibirsky wrote:The Emerald Dawn wrote:Uh huh. See, you have this braggadocios claim in your bumper that shows you're a Silver Medal debater. That's not a personal attack to point it out. Nice try though.
And, which AMCITs has he murdered, exactly?
You are not merely pointing it out. I don't your need your bullshit.
Have you been living under a rock?
Abdulrahman Anwar Al-Awlaki?
They claim it is a mistake. And sure, lets give them the benefit of the doubt. it is a mistake.
Killing his father was not. And being an American citizen, he is entitled to the due process of law. Like any other American citizen.
Or, it should be, any other human being, having to go through the American justice system.

by Neo Art » Tue May 14, 2013 11:29 am
Sibirsky wrote:Killing his father was not. And being an American citizen, he is entitled to the due process of law. Like any other American citizen.

by Nadkor » Tue May 14, 2013 11:29 am
Neo Art wrote:Nadkor wrote:
I kinda always think that if you have to go around saying "No, I swear; I am good at debating! Some people on the internet said so!" then, well, you're probably not.
Oh sure, but when it's sexiest NSGer, well then you...actually don't really seem to care about that one all together too much either...


by Mike the Progressive » Tue May 14, 2013 11:29 am
Nadkor wrote:Doing something unconstitutional isn't a high crime (although, of course, some high crimes might be things that are unconstitutional), or half the federal government would have been arrested at some point in the last 250 years.
Nadkor wrote:You know that not every breach of the law is a criminal matter, right?
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