The Greatest German Chancellor

[Allrule]

So yes, yet another "who was the greatest -countryleader-" thread. Who was the greatest German Chancellor?

[Brogavia]

Bismark. He was responsible for building the modern German state from the mirad of loosely affiliated Germanic states.

[New Kereptica]

Bismarck o/o/o/

[DieInAFire]

idktbh

[Takaram]

Why isn't Adolf up there. He did pull Germany out of the worst depression in it's history. Sure, you may not agree with his methods, but you can't argue with the results. *Someone pulls Takaram aside and whispers in his ear. Takaram returns* Uh, strike that, never mind. I guess you can argue with the results.

[Natvia]

Why isn't Adolf up there. He did pull Germany out of the worst depression in it's history. Sure, you may not agree with his methods, but you can't argue with the results. *Someone pulls Takaram aside and whispers in his ear. Takaram returns* Uh, strike that, never mind. I guess you can argue with the results.

All joking aside, he was born in Austria. Which disqualifies him. I think.

[Takaram]

Why isn't Adolf up there. He did pull Germany out of the worst depression in it's history. Sure, you may not agree with his methods, but you can't argue with the results. *Someone pulls Takaram aside and whispers in his ear. Takaram returns* Uh, strike that, never mind. I guess you can argue with the results.

All joking aside, he was born in Austria. Which disqualifies him. I think.

He was elected Chancellor, and did pull Germany out of the Depression.

[Enn]

No Hindenburg?

[New Kereptica]

Why isn't Adolf up there. He did pull Germany out of the worst depression in it's history. Sure, you may not agree with his methods, but you can't argue with the results. *Someone pulls Takaram aside and whispers in his ear. Takaram returns* Uh, strike that, never mind. I guess you can argue with the results.

All joking aside, he was born in Austria. Which disqualifies him. I think.

He was appointed Chancellor, and did pull Germany out of the Depression.

Fixed.

[Takaram]

Why isn't Adolf up there. He did pull Germany out of the worst depression in it's history. Sure, you may not agree with his methods, but you can't argue with the results. *Someone pulls Takaram aside and whispers in his ear. Takaram returns* Uh, strike that, never mind. I guess you can argue with the results.

All joking aside, he was born in Austria. Which disqualifies him. I think.

He was appointed Chancellor, and did pull Germany out of the Depression.

Fixed.

Well, true enough. Still was called Chancellor for about ten minutes.

[Odhinnia]

Hitler was the Chancellor of Germany, a Damn Good one! But Otto Von Bismarck is the best.... And the first..... And We have the same Birthday therefore I must be a Reincarnate of Otto Von Bismarck!

[Brogavia]

Why isn't Adolf up there. He did pull Germany out of the worst depression in it's history. Sure, you may not agree with his methods, but you can't argue with the results. *Someone pulls Takaram aside and whispers in his ear. Takaram returns* Uh, strike that, never mind. I guess you can argue with the results.

Hitler was a paranoid, narcissistic, idiot. He lost the war for Germany. His demand that they try and take Leiningrad, the Ukraine and Moscow all at the same time was what lost the war. Then he threw away the chance Germany had to win in the East at Kursk.

[Natvia]

Hitler was a paranoid, narcissistic, idiot. He lost the war for Germany. His demand that they try and take Leiningrad, the Ukraine and Moscow all at the same time was what lost the war. Then he threw away the chance Germany had to win in the East at Kursk.

But he grew a mean moustache!

[Odhinnia]

Why isn't Adolf up there. He did pull Germany out of the worst depression in it's history. Sure, you may not agree with his methods, but you can't argue with the results. *Someone pulls Takaram aside and whispers in his ear. Takaram returns* Uh, strike that, never mind. I guess you can argue with the results.

Hitler was a paranoid, narcissistic, idiot. He lost the war for Germany. His demand that they try and take Leiningrad, the Ukraine and Moscow all at the same time was what lost the war. Then he threw away the chance Germany had to win in the East at Kursk.

Do you believe everything the history channel and your textbooks tell you?

[Zaharawi]

I think Angela Merkel has also done a good job so far, although she as not got into any mess clean up yet, but based on the fact that we have i think she is not doing that bad.

[Brogavia]

Why isn't Adolf up there. He did pull Germany out of the worst depression in it's history. Sure, you may not agree with his methods, but you can't argue with the results. *Someone pulls Takaram aside and whispers in his ear. Takaram returns* Uh, strike that, never mind. I guess you can argue with the results.

Hitler was a paranoid, narcissistic, idiot. He lost the war for Germany. His demand that they try and take Leiningrad, the Ukraine and Moscow all at the same time was what lost the war. Then he threw away the chance Germany had to win in the East at Kursk.

Do you believe everything the history channel and your textbooks tell you?

Who ordered the Germany Army to stop the offensive at Kursk? Who ordered the OKH to divert resources away from the Moscow Offensive toward Leiningrad? Who ordered them to fight to the last instead of falling back and regroup? Who tried to micro-manage first two and then three fronts instead of letting people who actually knew how to run a war?

He was an idiot that thought he could do no wrong and anyone who disagreed with him was a traitor.

So how do you think it went down then?

[New Manvir]

Bismarck, cause he pwned the French, Austrians and Danes...and that whole unification of Germany thing.

[New Kereptica]

So how do you think it went down then?

It was all the goddamn Jews' fault.

[Robarya]

Why isn't Adolf up there. He did pull Germany out of the worst depression in it's history. Sure, you may not agree with his methods, but you can't argue with the results. *Someone pulls Takaram aside and whispers in his ear. Takaram returns* Uh, strike that, never mind. I guess you can argue with the results.

Hitler was a paranoid, narcissistic, idiot. He lost the war for Germany. His demand that they try and take Leiningrad, the Ukraine and Moscow all at the same time was what lost the war. Then he threw away the chance Germany had to win in the East at Kursk.

Do you believe everything the history channel and your textbooks tell you?

Exactly. The history books and documentaries are not exactly unbiased.

To attempt seizing all of Russia in one year was a hard task to accomplish, but a fast victory was necessary to prevent a war of attrition in which Germany would be at disadvantage because of Russia's vast amounts of manpower available. It is true that Germany --and many other nations too, for that matter-- underestimated Russia, but then they had good reason to do so considering Russia's very poor performance during the Winter War against Finland.

When it comes to Kursk, Germany didn't stand a chance to win the war, even if they had won at Kursk. Not only were the Russians heavily entrenched, they would also have been able to afford the losses if they had suffered a defeat at Kursk, and would not have had to worry about losing the war in such a scenario. At this point the Russian factories were spitting out equipment, the Russians received lots of supplies through Lend & Lease, the Russian army was stronger than that of Germany and its quality was far better than it had been in 1941 and besides that the Western Allies had gained a foothold in Italy.

That said, a summer offensive in 1943 was better than staying on the defense, since a defensive stance would have assured Germany's destruction given the superior numbers, equipment and resources of its enemies. By launching Zitadelle the Germans at least had a perceived chance of victory.

[Yootopia]

Adenauer.

[Robarya]

Anyways, Adolf Hitler was Germany's greatest chancellor, followed by Otto von Bismarck. I don't like voting "Other" so I voted for Herr Bismarck, though.

[Yootopia]

Why isn't Adolf up there. He did pull Germany out of the worst depression in it's history.

That was mostly the effect of time.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

Bismarck bias methinks.
I'd slap Bismarck if i had the chance, his stupid alliances pretty much paved the way toward WW1.
Only other Chancellor i've heard of is Merkel so i voted her.

[L3 Communications]

Bismarck because he has a mustache named after him. o:

[Yootopia]

I'd slap Bismarck if i had the chance, his stupid alliances pretty much paved the way toward WW1.

Innit. His chancellorship didn't exactly go all that well in the end, see also Hitler.