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Postby Kobrania » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:48 pm

At least allow drawn child porn like shota/loli to be legally sold in certain shops.

Why do you think so many act on their instincts?

Sexual repression!
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Postby Dark Side Messiahs » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:08 am

Kobrania wrote:At least allow drawn child porn like shota/loli to be legally sold in certain shops.

Why do you think so many act on their instincts?

Sexual repression!


Give them all the fake CG, cartoon, 'shota/loli, they want but keep them away from the real kids.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:37 am

Dark Side Messiahs wrote:From your point of view. All it goes to prove is that the term 'pedophile' means something different to everyone else.


No what it proves is that people are willfully ignorant of what words mean and that the media have whipped the populance into a frenzy and feed lies.
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Postby Nulono » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:48 am

I don;t think we should prosecute those we think are "icky". As long as there's no rape or molestation, it's NOYB.
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Postby Tokos » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:50 am

Kobrania wrote:At least allow drawn child porn like shota/loli to be legally sold in certain shops.

Why do you think so many act on their instincts?

Sexual repression!
No, it's because they don't repress their instincts sufficiently.

I mean every normal man finds sexually mature 14 year old girls attractive but that's illegal in many countries to act on and most of us don't.
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Postby Nulono » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:51 am

We need to give children more rights, so that they can deny unwanted sexual advances.
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Postby New Sociopia » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:13 am

People can't help what thye feel, and I don't believe they should ever have to feel guilty about it.

As long as both parties are capable of informed consent, I don't really care who has sex with who. When informed consent can be given doesn't seemn like an age issue to me, because people mature at different levels and learn about sex and the risks at different times. I'm 18, and had sexual relations with someone who was a couple of months shy of 16, which is the 'age of consent' in this country. Doesn't bother me at all. We both fully understood, consented and wanted to do what we did. I don't see the issue.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:32 am

New Sociopia wrote:People can't help what thye feel, and I don't believe they should ever have to feel guilty about it.

As long as both parties are capable of informed consent, I don't really care who has sex with who. When informed consent can be given doesn't seemn like an age issue to me, because people mature at different levels and learn about sex and the risks at different times. I'm 18, and had sexual relations with someone who was a couple of months shy of 16, which is the 'age of consent' in this country. Doesn't bother me at all. We both fully understood, consented and wanted to do what we did. I don't see the issue.


Small detail: pedophilia refers to fancying children that have not yet reached puberty - not to children that merely have not reached the age of consent.

Of course, the question pedosexuals like to ask is "perhaps a pre-pubescent kid can not enjoy sex the same way an adult does, but does that mean it can not enjoy it in a different way ?"
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Postby Peepelonia » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:46 am

New Sociopia wrote:People can't help what thye feel, and I don't believe they should ever have to feel guilty about it.

As long as both parties are capable of informed consent, I don't really care who has sex with who. When informed consent can be given doesn't seemn like an age issue to me, because people mature at different levels and learn about sex and the risks at different times. I'm 18, and had sexual relations with someone who was a couple of months shy of 16, which is the 'age of consent' in this country. Doesn't bother me at all. We both fully understood, consented and wanted to do what we did. I don't see the issue.



Yes it is true that people do mature at diffrant levels, but being an adult is not just about matureity, or do you say that it is?

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Postby Commandersos » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:18 am

they should make laws which relax the age limit for having sex with children

like 16 and above that

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Postby Robarya » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:48 am

The Vampire Bella Rose wrote:Right but the thing is that everyone can define child as different. The country or even state can say one thing but to someone they personally may not see them as a child. I guess you could call my ex a pedophile if you're being anal about it and define child as someone under 18. I was 15 he was 23. But I looked and acted a lot older then I was because I grew up fast. Would I call him that, no. Have I met people who would, yea. (We never slept together so nothing illegal occured I am simply talking about the emotional bond that was present at the time)

Everyone ages differently. I know someone who is 19 but mentally he might as well be 14. There is nothing wrong with the bonds but what one person calls a child others may not. Thats important to remember sometimes too.

I'm gonna misspell her name... Mary Kay Laturno. Both her and the boy she bore two children to, their relationship started when he was in 6th grade I believe, stated they loved one another and wanted to be together. He married her when he turned 18, and I believe they also go divorced shortly after. I'm not saying she was right or anything, just throwing out one example I can think of where you had someone considered child giving consent and pushing it.


It is true that the pedophile label is thrown around alot carelessly. If he was 23 and you were 15 it was definitely not pedophilia, although you could argue he's a hebephile (someone with a sexual preference to younger teens). I personally don't see anything wrong with hebephilia so long as there's not a huge difference in age, and I might classify as a hebephile myself, since I wouldn't mind a relationship with a girl who's ~15, and I'm in my early 20's myself. Pedophilia is attraction towards preburtal children; when you enter puberty varies, but it is generally around 12 years of age you have entered puberty.

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Postby Angleter » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:54 am

I do not believe in a 'Sex Offender Register' which gives the government a convenient list of sick losers, and I'm even more against 'Megan's/Sarah's Law' which lets local vigilantes chase ex-paedos around the area with pitchforks, torches, etc. Once one has paid their debt to society, they are free people and should not have their liberty infringed like that. I am in favour of voluntary castration of paedophiles and longer prison sentences (in the UK).
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Postby Neo Art » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:55 am

paedophilia is not a crime, and thus nothing that one needs to be punished for or reformed from.
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Postby Courezzia » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:58 am

Shoot 'em on sight. I don't care! Here's a great place to discuss Michael Jackson...
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Postby Albaron » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:59 am

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Postby Kobrania » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:00 pm

Courezzia wrote:Shoot 'em on sight. I don't care! Here's a great place to discuss Michael Jackson...

He wasn't a pedophile, he actually wanted to have his age regressed.

I happen to follow him on that route.
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Postby Robarya » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:02 pm

Angleter wrote:I do not believe in a 'Sex Offender Register' which gives the government a convenient list of sick losers, and I'm even more against 'Megan's/Sarah's Law' which lets local vigilantes chase ex-paedos around the area with pitchforks, torches, etc. Once one has paid their debt to society, they are free people and should not have their liberty infringed like that. I am in favour of voluntary castration of paedophiles and longer prison sentences (in the UK).


In a legal sense, perhaps. But morally a pedophile who has sexually abused a child will never "pay his debt".

Neo Art wrote:paedophilia is not a crime, and thus nothing that one needs to be punished for or reformed from.


Sick as the sexual orientation in itself might be, it is not a crime, no. But if you act on it --which many pedophiles will, since they are need-driven offenders-- it becomes an unforgivable crime. It would probably be for the best to actually castrate every pedophile, regardless of whether they have committed an actual crime or not, to prevent them from acting out their sick lusts.

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Postby Kobrania » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:04 pm

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Angleter wrote:I do not believe in a 'Sex Offender Register' which gives the government a convenient list of sick losers, and I'm even more against 'Megan's/Sarah's Law' which lets local vigilantes chase ex-paedos around the area with pitchforks, torches, etc. Once one has paid their debt to society, they are free people and should not have their liberty infringed like that. I am in favour of voluntary castration of paedophiles and longer prison sentences (in the UK).


In a legal sense, perhaps. But morally a pedophile who has sexually abused a child will never "pay his debt".

Neo Art wrote:paedophilia is not a crime, and thus nothing that one needs to be punished for or reformed from.


Sick as the sexual orientation in itself might be, it is not a crime, no. But if you act on it --which many pedophiles will, since they are need-driven offenders-- it becomes an unforgivable crime. It would probably be for the best to actually castrate every pedophile, regardless of whether they have committed an actual crime or not, to prevent them from acting out their sick lusts.

How exactly is it unforgivable? If you are a decent person, you should forgive anyone of anything. Wrath is a sin you know.
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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:05 pm

Tokos wrote:I mean every normal man finds sexually mature 14 year old girls attractive but that's illegal in many countries to act on and most of us don't.

Don't project yourself on others and claim that it is normal. I do not find children younger than my own to be sexually attractive.
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Postby Robarya » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:09 pm

Kobrania wrote:How exactly is it unforgivable? If you are a decent person, you should forgive anyone of anything. Wrath is a sin you know.


Forgive anyone of anything? Then I think I will rather stay a "wrathful sinner". Not that I follow the Christian codes, so I don't consider myself a sinner in the first place.

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Postby Kalakda » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:10 pm

Pedophilia is an evil, vile, and disgusting act and all those perform this abominable act should either be put to death, or sentenced to life without parole.
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Postby Angleter » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:12 pm

Robarya wrote:
Angleter wrote:I do not believe in a 'Sex Offender Register' which gives the government a convenient list of sick losers, and I'm even more against 'Megan's/Sarah's Law' which lets local vigilantes chase ex-paedos around the area with pitchforks, torches, etc. Once one has paid their debt to society, they are free people and should not have their liberty infringed like that. I am in favour of voluntary castration of paedophiles and longer prison sentences (in the UK).


In a legal sense, perhaps. But morally a pedophile who has sexually abused a child will never "pay his debt".

Neo Art wrote:paedophilia is not a crime, and thus nothing that one needs to be punished for or reformed from.


Sick as the sexual orientation in itself might be, it is not a crime, no. But if you act on it --which many pedophiles will, since they are need-driven offenders-- it becomes an unforgivable crime. It would probably be for the best to actually castrate every pedophile, regardless of whether they have committed an actual crime or not, to prevent them from acting out their sick lusts.


Unforgivable? It's the Christian (and most other religions') thing to do to forgive someone for whatever they have done. That does not mean, however, any lenience of sentence.
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Kalakda wrote:Pedophilia is an evil, vile, and disgusting act and all those perform this abominable act should either be put to death, or sentenced to life without parole.


pedophilia is not an act.
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Postby Robarya » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:18 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Kalakda wrote:Pedophilia is an evil, vile, and disgusting act and all those perform this abominable act should either be put to death, or sentenced to life without parole.


pedophilia is not an act.


I assume he's referring to acting out the pedophilia, although he wasn't explicitly specific.

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