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Mad hatters in jeans
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:49 pm

Barzan wrote:Not ghetto talk! :evil:

gawdamn peckerwoods telling us homies what to do. >:(
(j/K)

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Postby Allbeama » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:53 pm

Bitchkitten wrote:
Allbeama wrote:dirt poor part time job starving lower class. a Blue collar job would be a step up from what I do.
What do you do?

I work part time at a concert venue, and I also am in catering. Minimum wage, servant type work. I consider jobs that involve physical labor, full time hours, and pay more than minimum wage to be true "blue collar" jobs. Like construction, manufacturing, and custodial.
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Postby Maurepas » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:55 pm

Allbeama wrote:
Bitchkitten wrote:
Allbeama wrote:dirt poor part time job starving lower class. a Blue collar job would be a step up from what I do.
What do you do?

I work part time at a concert venue, and I also am in catering. Minimum wage, servant type work. I consider jobs that involve physical labor, full time hours, and pay more than minimum wage to be true "blue collar" jobs. Like construction, manufacturing, and custodial.

I used to do that, fortunately, I got out of that and into a cushy, shit paying, computer job so I can be on NSG all the time, :lol:

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Postby Allbeama » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:57 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Allbeama wrote:
Bitchkitten wrote:
Allbeama wrote:dirt poor part time job starving lower class. a Blue collar job would be a step up from what I do.
What do you do?

I work part time at a concert venue, and I also am in catering. Minimum wage, servant type work. I consider jobs that involve physical labor, full time hours, and pay more than minimum wage to be true "blue collar" jobs. Like construction, manufacturing, and custodial.

I used to do that, fortunately, I got out of that and into a cushy, shit paying, computer job so I can be on NSG all the time, :lol:


You used to do events? or the other things I listed? :unsure:
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Barzan
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Postby Barzan » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:58 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Allbeama wrote:
Bitchkitten wrote:
Allbeama wrote:dirt poor part time job starving lower class. a Blue collar job would be a step up from what I do.
What do you do?

I work part time at a concert venue, and I also am in catering. Minimum wage, servant type work. I consider jobs that involve physical labor, full time hours, and pay more than minimum wage to be true "blue collar" jobs. Like construction, manufacturing, and custodial.

I used to do that, fortunately, I got out of that and into a cushy, shit paying, computer job so I can be on NSG all the time, :lol:

Damn. My jobs is ok, but I hate it, and I can't play on NSG! How do I get into a job like yours?
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:59 pm

Barzan wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Allbeama wrote:
Bitchkitten wrote:
Allbeama wrote:dirt poor part time job starving lower class. a Blue collar job would be a step up from what I do.
What do you do?

I work part time at a concert venue, and I also am in catering. Minimum wage, servant type work. I consider jobs that involve physical labor, full time hours, and pay more than minimum wage to be true "blue collar" jobs. Like construction, manufacturing, and custodial.

I used to do that, fortunately, I got out of that and into a cushy, shit paying, computer job so I can be on NSG all the time, :lol:

Damn. My jobs is ok, but I hate it, and I can't play on NSG! How do I get into a job like yours?

Kill Maurepas take his job and identity...simple.
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Postby Maurepas » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:00 pm

Barzan wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Allbeama wrote:
Bitchkitten wrote:
Allbeama wrote:dirt poor part time job starving lower class. a Blue collar job would be a step up from what I do.
What do you do?

I work part time at a concert venue, and I also am in catering. Minimum wage, servant type work. I consider jobs that involve physical labor, full time hours, and pay more than minimum wage to be true "blue collar" jobs. Like construction, manufacturing, and custodial.

I used to do that, fortunately, I got out of that and into a cushy, shit paying, computer job so I can be on NSG all the time, :lol:

Damn. My jobs is ok, but I hate it, and I can't play on NSG! How do I get into a job like yours?

Play in a band with a drummer who's mother's girlfriend is an office manager at a Taxi Company, :lol2:

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Postby Maurepas » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:01 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Barzan wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Allbeama wrote:
Bitchkitten wrote:
Allbeama wrote:dirt poor part time job starving lower class. a Blue collar job would be a step up from what I do.
What do you do?

I work part time at a concert venue, and I also am in catering. Minimum wage, servant type work. I consider jobs that involve physical labor, full time hours, and pay more than minimum wage to be true "blue collar" jobs. Like construction, manufacturing, and custodial.

I used to do that, fortunately, I got out of that and into a cushy, shit paying, computer job so I can be on NSG all the time, :lol:

Damn. My jobs is ok, but I hate it, and I can't play on NSG! How do I get into a job like yours?

Kill Maurepas take his job and identity...simple.
:twisted:

Well...there is that, but Id prefer you not do that, :?

:lol2:

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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:04 pm

Maurepas wrote:Well...there is that, but Id prefer you not do that, :?

:lol2:

yeah you're right, too much effort involved i mean i'd have to travel fucking miles to do that. no thanks, and shifting dead bodies ain't that much fun... :unsure: ...not that i know about that sort of thing, i just read too many detective novels.(this is partly true i have read detective novels, Iain Rankins ones for instance, they're okay for grittiness and grimness)

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Sumamba Buwhan
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Postby Sumamba Buwhan » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:19 am

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Sumamba Buwhan wrote:I'm in a class by myself.
All of the other special ed students were smart enough to remember that we had today off.

ouch that's low.


Yeah, I really shouldn't insult special ed students by comparing myself to them.
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Postby United Russian State » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:23 am

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Peepelonia
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Postby Peepelonia » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:30 am

Working here, although I suppose it could be said that my children are middle.

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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:45 am

Used to be upper middle class, now I'm just middle class.
Oh the recession is very annoying. :(

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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:47 am

Yootopia wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:you dumping on my gangstas yall?

Fo shizzle.


What does Snoop Doggy Dog say when it's raining?

Fo Drizzle.
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Postby Anarchic-Marxist » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:03 am

I'm Underclass aka Lower class aka The poor. $16,000 a year and 3 kids. fun fun
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Postby Peepelonia » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:05 am

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Used to be upper middle class, now I'm just middle class.
Oh the recession is very annoying. :(



I gota say the only thing I have noticed is I now spend about £20-£50 a week more on our weekly shop. Not so bad, now I have the wife out working too.

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Postby Riakou » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:08 am

A persons class is defined by a person's wealth, Lineage, Net value and and other certian aspects

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RAHIT RA
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Postby RAHIT RA » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:08 am

im lower upper middle class. We live in the countrah. We despise the dirty middle middle middles and their large televisions, many new cars and lack of taste. We have a crippling mortgage but shop only at waitrose. The house is cluttered but homely. We still watch videos, and we definitely read books. I go to a grammar school.
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:17 am

RAHIT RA wrote:im lower upper middle class. We live in the countrah. We despise the dirty middle middle middles and their large televisions, many new cars and lack of taste. We have a crippling mortgage but shop only at waitrose. The house is cluttered but homely. We still watch videos, and we definitely read books. I go to a grammar school.


Lower upper middle class?
So how does that work then? :blink:

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Postby Milks Empire » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:28 am

Riakou wrote:A persons class is defined by a person's wealth

I's po'.

Riakou wrote:Lineage

I'm the 13th-great-grandson of Alexander Livingston, 5th Lord Livingston of Callandar so I'm a blue-blood. So why the hell is I po'?

Riakou wrote:Net value

I'm screwed there.

Riakou wrote:and and other certian aspects

Details please?

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RAHIT RA
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Postby RAHIT RA » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:28 am

well im for sure middle class. But then im a snob, so its gotta be upper middle class. However, we aren't rich enough to be in the higher echelons of upper middle, so lower upper middle it is.

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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:31 am

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
RAHIT RA wrote:im lower upper middle class. We live in the countrah. We despise the dirty middle middle middles and their large televisions, many new cars and lack of taste. We have a crippling mortgage but shop only at waitrose. The house is cluttered but homely. We still watch videos, and we definitely read books. I go to a grammar school.


Lower upper middle class?
So how does that work then? :blink:


Maybe it's easier with a graph :)

Middle Class
......................................................X...........................


I assume that the X is his position.

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RAHIT RA
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Postby RAHIT RA » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:32 am

word, something like that. Maybe a little further up

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Postby Sarkhaan » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:34 am

Natapoc wrote:Seriously half the world lives on less than $2 a day.

If you live in the bay area or new york and think you are poor because you "just" make 40k per year or so... you should realize that you are probably making 3 times as much as a large number of other people who live in your city some of whom probably have much more education than you.

What is minimum wage in your town? Allot of people really do make that and they manage to survive on it. And some consider themselves lucky to be making 20k per year.

The real world is not the one you see with your wealth colored glasses.

If you make more than 70k and you live anywhere in the world you are rich.

Wealth is relative. I could not exist in Boston on $2 a day. That would only get me maybe 2 packs of ramen. Add in basic things like shelter and even minimal clothing in winter, and there you have it.

So yes, people do realize that making "just" 40k a year is quite a lot compared to say, someone living in Zimbabwe or Ghana or Mali.

Compare two teachers...one in Boston, one in rural West Virginia. Both are making $60k a year, plus benefits. Who is wealthier?

Answer is the one in rural West Virginia because they have higher spending power.

To claim that wealth is solely a function of income is asinine. We all realize that, compared to much of the world, we are very well off. And yet, some can barely exist in the areas that we live on the salaries we make, even if it is hundreds of times more than what others make in different countries.
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Postby Anarko-Punx » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:38 am

Waiting for my rich parents to die... Why oh why are they so damn healthy? >:(
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