Does God exist?

[Akkaga]

I agree. I am a follower of the great Journey. We don't hate others. We just know that gods are fake, or more or less figures of the Human mind. We believe in beings from outside our world, who created it all for the simple fun of it. Like humans creating Robots. As I quote from a great movie.

Man to Cyborg: "Why did the create us?"
Cyborg to man: "Why did you create me?"
man to cyborg: "Because we could."
cyborg: "How would you act if your creator told you this?"

Have fun with you Happy Meal toys

You have no idea what the Great Journey is do you? *Sigh* It is such a small movement.

[Kaizakhstan]

I will admit the musician analogy was pretty bad.

So you're saying that the universe, and everything in it, can come into existence without anything causing it to exist?

The Universe can come into existence without a sapient being causing it to exist. This has already been explained over and over by many physicists, including Stephen Hawkin.

The creation of the known Universe through the Big Bang was an unavoidable event, caused by the original anomaly that came before it and the laws of quantum physics that applied to it.

A sapient entity of any sort would have been redundant, since the conditions for the birth of our Universe were already set.

Okay, but what caused quantum physics, or has physics just always existed?
What if God is physics?

[Councordia]

And then the bullshit alarms go off. I may not be any sort of a scientist (I'm at school to study dead languages and ancient Scriptures, and love it), but I know enough history to tell when someone is just being a nutter.

According tohttp://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm


(Possibly) The Twenty (or so) Worst Things People Have Done to Each Other:

Rank Death Toll Cause Centuries
1 66 million Second World War 20C
2 40 million Mao Zedong (mostly famine)20C
40 million Genghis Khan 13C
4 27 million British India (mostly famine) 19C
5 25 million Fall of the Ming Dynasty 17C
6 20 million Taiping Rebellion 19C
20 million Joseph Stalin 20C
8 18½ million Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C
9 17 million Timur Lenk 14C-15C
10 16 million Atlantic Slave Trade 15C-19C
11 15 million First World War 20C
15 million Conquest of the Americas 15C-19C
13 13 million An Lushan Revolt 8C
14 10 million Xin Dynasty 1C
10 million Congo Free State 19C-20C
16 9 million Russian Civil War 20C
17 7½ million Thirty Years War 17C
7½ million Fall of the Yuan Dynasty 14C
19 7 million Fall of Rome 5C
7 million Chinese Civil Wars

Obviously, the website has a neater chart, and I'm too lazy to actually go and straighten things up. And I don't want to get caught up in the 'does God exist' question, because, frankly, I don't like talking to arrogant people, who presume in their arrogance to have a corner on the metanarrative because they can invent toasters and drugs. But look at these stats. 150 million people killed in the 20th century, and this isn't even a comprehensive list.
Ironically, the 20th century is also the first century in which communism and fascism, two political movements derived from, and taking much of their justification from, Darwinian evolution (Nazism in eugenics, and Communism in dialectical evolution/dialectical materialism) really gained traction. And if you look at the biggest killers of the century, this single, bloody century, they are all directly or indirectly related to both communism and fascism. Secularist ideologies.

So if any ideology is 'dangerous', it is atheism. Not because atheists are dangerous people, but because they believe in no one (but themselves and the Goddess Reason) hold to no creed (except to anathematize other creeds) and have no real basis for conducting themselves in a 'moral' fashion. And here's the proof of it.*

(*It should be made clear that not all Nazis were atheist (many were church-goers) but the fundamental justification for genocide and the superiority of the German race was grounded in eugenics)

You could not be more dishonest even if you tried.

Pro-tip: Don't lie in debates.

Lie? Where? All I see are numbers and a link. So pfft.

[Obamas Country]

Atheists never can and never will prove that God DOES NOT exist. Christians never can and never will prove that God DOES exist. The whole point of God is that you can't prove that he does or doesn't exist. That's what faith is for.

So...your god is an illusive prick that expects you to brainwash yourself into stupidity and intellectual dishonesty in order to perceive his implausible existence as actually true?

Talk about arbitrary!

That's one way of looking at it.

[Koevoet]

Have fun with you Happy Meal toys

You have no idea what the Great Journey is do you? *Sigh* It is such a small movement.

Keep living in your dream mate.

[The Moors of Fire]

Physics is god

[Transhuman Proteus]

God has a point and it is to be unprovable?

Yes

Where exactly did you learn about this point?

And if it doesn't exist then it is a human creation... that we created to have no point except to be unprovable?

[Obamas Country]

I'd be quite comfortable in saying that all the above is bollocks.

To be fair, my abs could deflect meteorites and turn Medusa into stone.

I'd say that's pretty Godly.

Yes

That's fucking stupid.

It's not supposed to be easy to believe in God.

[Koumakan Underground]

Indeed. For all we know, the universe came into being, and then it was the universe that created gods. Or perhaps the universe itself is a god, or at least a living thing.
Or maybe we're the gods.

I'd be quite comfortable in saying that all the above is bollocks.

I like how you just dismiss those statements, instead of trying to find a way that they could be true. Such blatant dismissal and incurious attitudes seem to go against the very nature of science, which, in its most basic form, is the notion of questioning everything. We know how the universe was formed. But do we know why? Perhaps we can't explain it yet, but maybe one day in the future, we'll finally be able to comprehend the "why" using science.

[Koevoet]

To be fair, my abs could deflect meteorites and turn Medusa into stone.

I'd say that's pretty Godly.



That's fucking stupid.

It's not supposed to be easy to believe in God.

And why should we believe in a God that doesn't allow me to masturbate?

[Obamas Country]

Yes

Where exactly did you learn about this point?

And if it doesn't exist then it is a human creation... that we created to have no point except to be unprovable?

Um read the whole conversation you're just picking one piece of it. MY point is that God is will NEVER be proven or disproven because if God does exist, that's the way he wants it to be. He wants people to have faith in him, not believe in some scientific theory that proves his existence. I'm not against science either, I believe in the big bang and evolution.

[Transhuman Proteus]

Where exactly did you learn about this point?

And if it doesn't exist then it is a human creation... that we created to have no point except to be unprovable?

Um read the whole conversation you're just picking one piece of it. MY point is that God is will NEVER be proven or disproven because if God does exist, that's the way he wants it to be. He wants people to have faith in him, not believe in some scientific theory that proves his existence. I'm not against science either, I believe in the big bang and evolution.

And if God doesn't exist....

[Nunyabeez]

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[The Rich Port]

To be fair, my abs could deflect meteorites and turn Medusa into stone.

I'd say that's pretty Godly.



That's fucking stupid.

It's not supposed to be easy to believe in God.

It's easier to come up with more believable horseshit than that.

Am I smarter than God because I actually think things through?

I would also like to know where the fuck you get this crap from.

[Obamas Country]

It's not supposed to be easy to believe in God.

And why should we believe in a God that doesn't allow me to masturbate?

If masturbating if more important to you than religion than you shouldn't. But if there is a god who doesn't want you to masturbate won't he pissed at you if it turns out he does exist?

[Koevoet]

ok, I need help. how do you show pics? I try but it goes like this:
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Go ask technical forums instead of spamming this thread.

[Obamas Country]

Um read the whole conversation you're just picking one piece of it. MY point is that God is will NEVER be proven or disproven because if God does exist, that's the way he wants it to be. He wants people to have faith in him, not believe in some scientific theory that proves his existence. I'm not against science either, I believe in the big bang and evolution.

And if God doesn't exist....

Then neither you or I can prove it.

[Koumakan Underground]

Judging from the tone of your response, you seem to think I believe in the Abrahamic god... Ha ha, that's hilarious. No, the gods I believe in are not omnipotent, omniscient, or omnipresent. They have very specific roles to fill, and why should they waste energy and time helping someone that doesn't even try to help themselves? I always try to meet them halfway, and perhaps even shoulder some of their burdens.
But you know, seriously, you shouldn't believe in anything just because someone tells you to-- you should believe in something because you choose to do so. And if that something you believe in is that gods don't exist, that's just fine.

So according to you Gods always help?

It seems that your reading comprehension is somewhat... lacking. That is the exact opposite of what I was saying. They do not always help. We shouldn't expect them to. It'd be like expecting your teacher to give you all the answers on the test while you are taking the test.

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

Oh great...not this bullshit again.

Atheists have no moral compass, atheists are the cause of all the suffering in the world blah blah blah...

So...ok...source for your assertions please.

Erm, the link. And also, high school world history. Maybe not American high school world history.

(EDIT) Also, in retrospect, 'blah blah blah' does not a response constitute. And I nowhere said that atheists cause all the suffering in the world. So either respond to my evidence (the numbers) with evidence, or getouttahere...

I said blah blah blah because that is exactly what you were doing...spouting bollocks. How? Well, yes you did cite some numbers. Well done. However you then gave those numbers attributes. Namely that they were caused by atheists. Yet your source (of the numbers) does no such thing. You, yes YOU, gave those numbers the attribute of being caused by atheists.

So...yes...blah blah blah and source for your assertions please.

[Mirage]

Well, if a god does exist, that doesn't automatically mean that we would be able to sense its existence. That said, alot of the gods of religions sound as real as fairies.

[Transhuman Proteus]

ok, I need help. how do you show pics? I try but it goes like this:
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One image code per pick I think, and usually when I do it I right click, view image info, copy the location, should have a format like: http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9 ... AYrWNQLHg7 - and paste it in the image code.

[Tsuntion]

ok, I need help. how do you show pics? I try but it goes like this:

-snip-

First, Find the image you want to post. It must be online.
Second, Right-click it and select "copy image URL".
Third, Paste that URL here between the [img] tags.

If the image you want to post is not online, then as step 1.5 you must upload it using a site like http://imgur.com, which will then put the image online and you can get its URL.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

And why should we believe in a God that doesn't allow me to masturbate?

If masturbating if more important to you than religion than you shouldn't. But if there is a god who doesn't want you to masturbate won't he pissed at you if it turns out he does exist?

A God willing to pry into one's sexual life and then judge an individual on whether or not one masturbates is a being with a fundamentally unhealthy and almost voyeuristic mental state, and I wouldn't be too cross at such a fundamentally abhorrent being being pissed off at me.

[Zeraxia]

And why should we believe in a God that doesn't allow me to masturbate?

If masturbating if more important to you than religion than you shouldn't. But if there is a god who doesn't want you to masturbate won't he pissed at you if it turns out he does exist?

And if there's a god that wants you to stone non-believers, wouldn't he be pretty pissed if you didn't?

[Transhuman Proteus]

And if God doesn't exist....

Then neither you or I can prove it.

Convenient.