NATION

PASSWORD

Does God exist?

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

Topic locked

Does a God exist?

Yes, raised religious
405
34%
No, raised religious
341
29%
Yes, raised nonreligious
97
8%
No, raised nonreligious
261
22%
I believe in a different God than I was raised believing in
91
8%
 
Total votes : 1195
User avatar
Menassa
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33837
Founded: Aug 11, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Menassa » Thu May 23, 2013 4:50 pm

Fruition wrote:
Menassa wrote:Carry..... on..... with your.... conversation..... William Shatner will always be...... right here.


Is he the guy that wrote Star Trek?

I know he acted in it.... a main role.
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
Top
User avatar
Fruition (Ancient)
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1303
Founded: Mar 30, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Thu May 23, 2013 4:54 pm

Menassa wrote:
Fruition wrote:
Is he the guy that wrote Star Trek?

I know he acted in it.... a main role.


Spock?
Fruition wrote:Wow. Do you think personally NS has set you in the right path, without any doubt?
Sassinia wrote:Yes.
Top
User avatar
Menassa
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33837
Founded: Aug 11, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Menassa » Thu May 23, 2013 4:54 pm

Fruition wrote:
Menassa wrote:I know he acted in it.... a main role.


Spock?

Kirk...
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
Top
User avatar
Pratse
Diplomat
 
Posts: 869
Founded: Feb 17, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Pratse » Thu May 23, 2013 4:55 pm

Menassa wrote:
Pratse wrote:
Oooooo....oh.

Carry..... on..... with your.... conversation..... William Shatner will always be...... right here.


You...are...most....gracious.
[Insert signature here].
Top
User avatar
Anachronous Rex
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6312
Founded: Mar 14, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Anachronous Rex » Thu May 23, 2013 5:33 pm

Menassa wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:No.

If God revealed himself to you and showed you his awesome might... your arm would be twisted into worshiping him.

I dare say he seems entirely capable of twisting arms without revealing himself.

But no. That sort of god would only inspire defiance in people like me.
My humor is like church wine: dry and tasteless.
If you are not sure if I am being serious, assume that I am not.

Summer is coming...
Top
User avatar
The Rich Port
Post Czar
 
Posts: 38094
Founded: Jul 29, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby The Rich Port » Thu May 23, 2013 5:36 pm

Menassa wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:No.

If God revealed himself to you and showed you his awesome might... your arm would be twisted into worshiping him.


Until he does that, I'm afraid I don't have a good reason to believe in him.

No matter how much anybody twists my arms into doing it.

Heh... I just got a mental image of God being some kinda Mafia don and his angels are the bagmen.

"Now look here, see, you're gonna believe in God, see, or we're gonna make you sleep with the fishes Jesus taught you how to fish, see?"
Top
User avatar
Menassa
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33837
Founded: Aug 11, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Menassa » Thu May 23, 2013 5:45 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Menassa wrote:If God revealed himself to you and showed you his awesome might... your arm would be twisted into worshiping him.


Until he does that, I'm afraid I don't have a good reason to believe in him.

Understandable.
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
Top
User avatar
The Rich Port
Post Czar
 
Posts: 38094
Founded: Jul 29, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby The Rich Port » Thu May 23, 2013 6:47 pm

Menassa wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Until he does that, I'm afraid I don't have a good reason to believe in him.

Understandable.


Not just that, but it's reasonable and, therefore, truthful.

Unlike faith.
Top
User avatar
Fruition (Ancient)
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1303
Founded: Mar 30, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Thu May 23, 2013 7:18 pm

Menassa wrote:
Fruition wrote:
Spock?

Kirk...


Oh, right. Spock was his assistant or something.
Fruition wrote:Wow. Do you think personally NS has set you in the right path, without any doubt?
Sassinia wrote:Yes.
Top
User avatar
Farnhamia
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 111685
Founded: Jun 20, 2006
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Thu May 23, 2013 7:26 pm

Menassa wrote:
Fruition wrote:
Is he the guy that wrote Star Trek?

I know he acted in it.... a main role.

Shatner was raised in Conservative Judaism, you know.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.
Top
User avatar
Fruition (Ancient)
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1303
Founded: Mar 30, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Thu May 23, 2013 7:28 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Menassa wrote:I know he acted in it.... a main role.

Shatner was raised in Conservative Judaism, you know.


It's old Christianity, isn't it?
Fruition wrote:Wow. Do you think personally NS has set you in the right path, without any doubt?
Sassinia wrote:Yes.
Top
User avatar
Asmir
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 15
Founded: May 19, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Asmir » Thu May 23, 2013 8:47 pm

Menassa wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:No.

If God revealed himself to you and showed you his awesome might... your arm would be twisted into worshiping him.


that is not true at all. remember a third of the host of heaven rebelled against him. There are those that would deny him if they saw him.
Top
User avatar
Farnhamia
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 111685
Founded: Jun 20, 2006
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Thu May 23, 2013 8:51 pm

Asmir wrote:
Menassa wrote:If God revealed himself to you and showed you his awesome might... your arm would be twisted into worshiping him.


that is not true at all. remember a third of the host of heaven rebelled against him. There are those that would deny him if they saw him.

Not that I disbelieve you, but can we have a source for that 1/3 rebelled?
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.
Top
User avatar
Menassa
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33837
Founded: Aug 11, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Menassa » Thu May 23, 2013 9:02 pm

Asmir wrote:
Menassa wrote:If God revealed himself to you and showed you his awesome might... your arm would be twisted into worshiping him.


that is not true at all. remember a third of the host of heaven rebelled against him. There are those that would deny him if they saw him.

A third of the host of heaven.... Biblical source?
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
Top
User avatar
Herador
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8038
Founded: Mar 08, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Herador » Thu May 23, 2013 9:38 pm

Asmir wrote:
Menassa wrote:If God revealed himself to you and showed you his awesome might... your arm would be twisted into worshiping him.


that is not true at all. remember a third of the host of heaven rebelled against him. There are those that would deny him if they saw him.

I'm pretty interested in the source on that too.
My politics are real simple: I just want to be able to afford to go to the doctor.
Top
User avatar
Menassa
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33837
Founded: Aug 11, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Menassa » Thu May 23, 2013 9:38 pm

Herador wrote:
Asmir wrote:
that is not true at all. remember a third of the host of heaven rebelled against him. There are those that would deny him if they saw him.

I'm pretty interested in the source on that too.

Dante's Inferno?
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
Top
User avatar
Avenio
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 11113
Founded: Feb 08, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Avenio » Thu May 23, 2013 9:39 pm

Menassa wrote:
Herador wrote:I'm pretty interested in the source on that too.

Dante's Inferno?


Either that or Paradise Lost.
Top
User avatar
Menassa
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33837
Founded: Aug 11, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Menassa » Thu May 23, 2013 9:41 pm

Avenio wrote:
Menassa wrote:Dante's Inferno?


Either that or Paradise Lost.

Did A pilgrims progress have any angels in it.... I remember reading that one..
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
Top
User avatar
Fruition (Ancient)
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1303
Founded: Mar 30, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Thu May 23, 2013 11:59 pm

Asmir wrote:
Menassa wrote:If God revealed himself to you and showed you his awesome might... your arm would be twisted into worshiping him.


that is not true at all. remember a third of the host of heaven rebelled against him. There are those that would deny him if they saw him.


How do you know if it's exactly 33.333% or 1/3?
Fruition wrote:Wow. Do you think personally NS has set you in the right path, without any doubt?
Sassinia wrote:Yes.
Top
User avatar
The Rich Port
Post Czar
 
Posts: 38094
Founded: Jul 29, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby The Rich Port » Fri May 24, 2013 2:21 am

Mental note, everyone: the Devil is never mentioned in the Bible, nor is he ever referred to as having rebelled against God.

Those are post-Christian machinations fabricated by the Church based off of what Jesus allegedly said about Hell, later cemented in popular culture by Divina Commedia and Paradise Lost.
Top
User avatar
Of Gibberishmania
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 56
Founded: May 17, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Of Gibberishmania » Fri May 24, 2013 2:31 am

Yes, and his name is Atheismo.
Top
User avatar
Potenco
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 492
Founded: Apr 22, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Potenco » Fri May 24, 2013 4:26 am

Its ironic how I come from two strictly atheist parents and a very very secular household to my current position. I have embraced liberal christianity and Zen Buddhism (Buddhism is very mutable and one can be a Buddhist and practice another faith). To me, ive always beleived in god as a balancing force, a greater justice in the world and I feel the desire of humanity to personify god is what raises so much cynicism about it now.
Social Democrat/Democratic Socialist depending on the weather.
Very Bisexual-Probably a 4 on the Kinsey Scale
Pro:US Democratic Party, Social Democracy, Bayard Rustin's ideals, Hopefully a Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren for President in 2020. Recent convert to the episcopal church from atheism and a fan of distributist thinking and christian democracy.
Anti: Paleoconservative bullshit, dicksuck Austrian economics
Top
User avatar
Forgotten Men
Civilian
 
Posts: 1
Founded: Apr 07, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Forgotten Men » Fri May 24, 2013 5:08 am

Clearly not
Top
User avatar
Aequalitia
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7501
Founded: Apr 26, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Aequalitia » Fri May 24, 2013 6:21 am

Well, I believe in a god, but then in a non-religious way. Sounds maybe strange for most people.
This world got so much cliches, so much pretty cliches <3
Top
User avatar
Chinese Regions
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16326
Founded: Apr 24, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Chinese Regions » Fri May 24, 2013 7:02 am

Menassa wrote:
Pratse wrote:
Oooooo....oh.

Carry..... on..... with your.... conversation..... William Shatner will always be...... right here.

Nah it's all about Q, Jesus got nothing on him.
Fan of Transformers?|Fan of Star Trek?|你会说中文吗？
Geopolitics: Internationalist, Pan-Asian, Pan-African, Pan-Arab, Pan-Slavic, Eurofederalist,
  • For the promotion of closer ties between Europe and Russia but without Dugin's anti-intellectual quackery.
  • Against NATO, the Anglo-American "special relationship", Israel and Wahhabism.

Sociopolitics: Pro-Intellectual, Pro-Science, Secular, Strictly Anti-Theocractic, for the liberation of PoCs in Western Hemisphere without the hegemony of white liberals
Economics: Indifferent
Top
PreviousNext
Topic locked

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Abserdia, Eahland, Habsburg Mexico, Ifreann, Komarovo, Port Caverton, Rary, Rusozak, Stellar Colonies, The Holy Therns

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

Advertisement

Remove ads