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Asmir wrote:I hope you don't base the existence of God upon the works of mortal men. The holy bible though an inspired, is a collection of texts from different prophets starting with Moses and ending with Paul if you go chronologically. It was then gathered together by the court of Nicaea and bound into a common text, translated from probably eight or more different languages. Then from Latin to a bunch of other languages, some dared to make changes when translating the copies they had because of perceived errors some changes came from conspiring men seeking power or to prove that their view of the church was correct. However none of this matters one bit, the bible can't be used as evidence of the existence of God only as a tool for teaching of his love. Besides most of the so-called contradictions you posted are nothing more than a lack of understanding of the culture, or the roll that Christ played.

If one wishes to truly know if God exists you mush first want to know. An angel could come down from heaven and most would dismiss it as a camera trick or aliens. Definitive proof does not exist that your five senses can grasp, and that goes for anything.

Menassa wrote:

The Scandinavian AlThing wrote:Wether or not God and/or The Gods exist; their silence on the matter makes Him/Her/Them (or at least his/her/their Motives) SUSPECT! Even if they do exist do they REALLY have our best interests at heart? Sounds to me Just like an other unacountable "Authority". Dont bother Justifying your belief that they do exist (let alone give a damn, because in truth thats what they should be proving to us if they indeed do exist.)

If a God revealed itself constantly... wouldn't that take away your free-will to choose to obey it?

Menassa wrote:

Teutonic Order of Prussia wrote:Original Sin. God gave man free will because he thought they would behave; the example of Adam and Eve gives this where the devil tricks them. I believe god created them imperfect to make sure each human being is different.

Not only is their no proof that the serpent is the Devil, Genesis 4:7 states humans can rule over sin.

Asmir wrote:I hope you don't base the existence of God upon the works of mortal men. The holy bible though an inspired, is a collection of texts from different prophets starting with Moses and ending with Paul if you go chronologically. It was then gathered together by the court of Nicaea and bound into a common text, translated from probably eight or more different languages. Then from Latin to a bunch of other languages, some dared to make changes when translating the copies they had because of perceived errors some changes came from conspiring men seeking power or to prove that their view of the church was correct. However none of this matters one bit, the bible can't be used as evidence of the existence of God only as a tool for teaching of his love. Besides most of the so-called contradictions you posted are nothing more than a lack of understanding of the culture, or the roll that Christ played.

If one wishes to truly know if God exists you mush first want to know. An angel could come down from heaven and most would dismiss it as a camera trick or aliens. Definitive proof does not exist that your five senses can grasp, and that goes for anything.

Asmir wrote:I hope you don't base the existence of God upon the works of mortal men. The holy bible though an inspired, is a collection of texts from different prophets starting with Moses and ending with Paul if you go chronologically. It was then gathered together by the court of Nicaea and bound into a common text, translated from probably eight or more different languages. Then from Latin to a bunch of other languages, some dared to make changes when translating the copies they had because of perceived errors some changes came from conspiring men seeking power or to prove that their view of the church was correct. However none of this matters one bit, the bible can't be used as evidence of the existence of God only as a tool for teaching of his love. Besides most of the so-called contradictions you posted are nothing more than a lack of understanding of the culture, or the roll that Christ played.

If one wishes to truly know if God exists you mush first want to know. An angel could come down from heaven and most would dismiss it as a camera trick or aliens. Definitive proof does not exist that your five senses can grasp, and that goes for anything.

Teutonic Order of Prussia wrote:God is real, and here is proof. For one there is no proof that there was a massive esplosion that happened where there was nothing.

Also you may try to say that how was god created? Well a simple fact is that if a being powerful enough to create everything existed, wouldn't he be able to create himself?

Evil was created by the devil;

Teutonic Order of Prussia wrote:

Delenial wrote:
You haven't presented proof of a god, you tried to de-prove the big bang theory. The big bang theory is not accepted by everyone, including non-theists, nor is there certentity in it, hence the word theory.

If anyone believes in a peaceful or loving god, why would that god give humans free choice and thought to think other ways than what he intended, and damn them to hell for practicing what he gave them. And why does he let tragedies happen?

Original Sin. God gave man free will because he thought they would behave; the example of Adam and Eve gives this where the devil tricks them. I believe god created them imperfect to make sure each human being is different.

Andaricus wrote:Yes, there is a God. I know I can't prove it to anyone but the evidence to Me is everywhere. If you don't want to believe that is your choice but He is there no matter what and He made, and loves you regardless. And it doesn't matter if you believe in Him or not, He believes in You.

Menassa wrote:

Asmir wrote:I hope you don't base the existence of God upon the works of mortal men. The holy bible though an inspired, is a collection of texts from different prophets starting with Moses and ending with Paul if you go chronologically. It was then gathered together by the court of Nicaea and bound into a common text, translated from probably eight or more different languages. Then from Latin to a bunch of other languages, some dared to make changes when translating the copies they had because of perceived errors some changes came from conspiring men seeking power or to prove that their view of the church was correct. However none of this matters one bit, the bible can't be used as evidence of the existence of God only as a tool for teaching of his love. Besides most of the so-called contradictions you posted are nothing more than a lack of understanding of the culture, or the roll that Christ played.

If one wishes to truly know if God exists you mush first want to know. An angel could come down from heaven and most would dismiss it as a camera trick or aliens. Definitive proof does not exist that your five senses can grasp, and that goes for anything.

Yeah.... though the Bible Started with the Universe and ended with Malachi.... and was Cannonized by the Men of the Great Assembly before Jesus.... so yeaa....

Ceannairceach wrote:

Asmir wrote:I hope you don't base the existence of God upon the works of mortal men. The holy bible though an inspired, is a collection of texts from different prophets starting with Moses and ending with Paul if you go chronologically. It was then gathered together by the court of Nicaea and bound into a common text, translated from probably eight or more different languages. Then from Latin to a bunch of other languages, some dared to make changes when translating the copies they had because of perceived errors some changes came from conspiring men seeking power or to prove that their view of the church was correct. However none of this matters one bit, the bible can't be used as evidence of the existence of God only as a tool for teaching of his love. Besides most of the so-called contradictions you posted are nothing more than a lack of understanding of the culture, or the roll that Christ played.

If one wishes to truly know if God exists you mush first want to know. An angel could come down from heaven and most would dismiss it as a camera trick or aliens. Definitive proof does not exist that your five senses can grasp, and that goes for anything.

Yeah, I wanted to know for years. Nothing, not a single thing, was revealed to me. Why do you get sych revelations and not me? Am I not equally loved by god? Am I not deserving?

Teutonic Order of Prussia wrote:

Menassa wrote:Not only is their no proof that the serpent is the Devil, Genesis 4:7 states humans can rule over sin.

We can but it doesn't mean its easy.

Anachronous Rex wrote:

Menassa wrote:If a God revealed itself constantly... wouldn't that take away your free-will to choose to obey it?

No.

Menassa wrote:

Anachronous Rex wrote:No.

If God revealed himself to you and showed you his awesome might... your arm would be twisted into worshiping him.

Pratse wrote:

Menassa wrote:If God revealed himself to you and showed you his awesome might... your arm would be twisted into worshiping him.

Why are you...always talking...like this....

Menassa wrote:

Pratse wrote:
Why are you...always talking...like this....

Like what?

Fruition wrote:

Menassa wrote:Like what?

Adding periods in the middle of sentences.

Menassa wrote:

Fruition wrote:
Adding periods in the middle of sentences.

Emph......asis.

Menassa wrote:

Fruition wrote:
Adding periods in the middle of sentences.

Emph......asis.

Pratse wrote:

Menassa wrote:Emph......asis.

Oooooo....oh.

Menassa wrote:

Pratse wrote:
Oooooo....oh.

Carry..... on..... with your.... conversation..... William Shatner will always be...... right here.