Benghazi hearing?

[Blackhelm Confederacy]

Because it was his job.

[Edlichbury]

Hardly, more than a dozen Americans died in the course of terrorist attacks on diplomatic missions over the course of Dubya's presidency and I don't recall that ever being the scandal of the week.

Watch the Daily Show did we?

Check out when they died. During the war in Iraq, and never in an attack on the scale of the one in Benghazi.

And dying in a war is preferable how exactly?

[Wikkiwallana]

No, that's not true. You need 60 votes in the Senate to get past a filibuster. All bills brought to a vote pass with a majority, usually 51 votes (50 would be a tie, I misspoke before), regardless of whether it's a new law or an amendment to an existing one. Nowadays you do need 60 votes to get anything done but really, you only need 51.

A filibuster cannot legally prevent a bill from becoming law.

Wrong. It can prevent voting on the bill, which prevents passing the bill, thus the bill never becomes a law.

As the gun law got 54 votes it passed.

Nope.

Any attempts to filibuster it is treason.

No, it isn't.

The bill passes, it passed. There is no stopping it.

It did not, and apparently there is.

[The Rulers of Mu]

I demand that the Democratic legislators answer for the question of why every US consulate isn't equipped with a comically oversize bulldozer capable of squishing rioters! I further demand to know why the consulate wasn't made out of that stuff they make airplane black boxes out of, and why our ambassador had not been trained to deflect RPGs with his bare hands! Those responsible for this lack of elite ninja training for our diplomatic corps should be sent to Guantanamo!

1. Sarah Palin had borrowed the bulldozer to try it out on the moose/mooses/meese.
2. The consulate was one big black box, but (plot twist) so were the RPGs.
3. See #2. The ambassador was only trained to deflect normal RPGs.

[Blackhelm Confederacy]

Watch the Daily Show did we?

Check out when they died. During the war in Iraq, and never in an attack on the scale of the one in Benghazi.

And dying in a war is preferable how exactly?

Because it is not something that is caused by mismanagement

[Cosara]

How about actually sending help to the people during the assault? Why was the military told to stand down and allow four Americans to be slaughtered?

Defense Department officials have said they had no units that could have responded in time to counter the attack in Benghazi. Kind of pointless to send in the military to respond to an attack after it's happened.

There was a period of 7 hours between the first attack and second attack. Also, wasn't there a team at the Benghazi airport that was told not to go?

[Edlichbury]

And dying in a war is preferable how exactly?

Because it is not something that is caused by mismanagement

I'd consider a war started over hypothetical weapons that didn't actually exist and that continued long after the primary objective had been accomplished to be pretty massive mismanagement.

[Farnhamia]

Because providing security every time someone asks for it is a horrible plan and how a military becomes overstretched?

How about actually sending help to the people during the assault? Why was the military told to stand down and allow four Americans to be slaughtered?

There were two attacks, one on the consulate at 9:40 PM local time and one on the CIA annex a mile away around midnight. Ambassador Stevens and Information Officer Sean Smith died from smoke inhalation when the main consulate building was set on fire. They were not "slaughtered." The forces at the annex defended themselves through the night, until reinforcements from Tripoli and some local Libyan forces arrived. The two men killed at the annex were victims of another attack there, as they attempted to reposition to cover the evacuation from that building. They were not "slaughtered," either.

[Blackhelm Confederacy]

Because it is not something that is caused by mismanagement

I'd consider a war started over hypothetical weapons that didn't actually exist and that continued long after the primary objective had been accomplished to be pretty massive mismanagement.

Then bring up Bush on a hearing for that. But to equate people killed in a warzone during war time to the diplomatic staff killed in Benghazi is out of line.

[Edlichbury]

Defense Department officials have said they had no units that could have responded in time to counter the attack in Benghazi. Kind of pointless to send in the military to respond to an attack after it's happened.

There was a period of 7 hours between the first attack and second attack. Also, wasn't there a team at the Benghazi airport that was told not to go?

From all the sources I've found, the only forces told to stand down were those outside of Benghazi that wouldn't have made it before the first attack finished. And frankly, there was no reason to suspect a second round of attacks.

[Blackhelm Confederacy]

How about actually sending help to the people during the assault? Why was the military told to stand down and allow four Americans to be slaughtered?

There were two attacks, one on the consulate at 9:40 PM local time and one on the CIA annex a mile away around midnight. Ambassador Stevens and Information Officer Sean Smith died from smoke inhalation when the main consulate building was set on fire. They were not "slaughtered." The forces at the annex defended themselves through the night, until reinforcements from Tripoli and some local Libyan forces arrived. The two men killed at the annex were victims of another attack there, as they attempted to reposition to cover the evacuation from that building. They were not "slaughtered," either.

Replace slaughtered with murdered. They were murdered.

[Farnhamia]

And dying in a war is preferable how exactly?

Because it is not something that is caused by mismanagement

The ghosts of the 4th and 13th Light Dragoons, 17th Lancers, 8th and 11th Hussars, the 4th Royal Irish Dragoon Guards, the 5th Dragoon Guards, the 6th Inniskilling Dragoons and the Scots Greys beg a word with you.

[Wikkiwallana]

meese

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Stupid false alarms, I came all the way out here for nothing.

[Farnhamia]

There were two attacks, one on the consulate at 9:40 PM local time and one on the CIA annex a mile away around midnight. Ambassador Stevens and Information Officer Sean Smith died from smoke inhalation when the main consulate building was set on fire. They were not "slaughtered." The forces at the annex defended themselves through the night, until reinforcements from Tripoli and some local Libyan forces arrived. The two men killed at the annex were victims of another attack there, as they attempted to reposition to cover the evacuation from that building. They were not "slaughtered," either.

Replace slaughtered with murdered. They were murdered.

Okay, so what? They were killed. The word hardly matters.

[Ixzara]

And dying in a war is preferable how exactly?

Because it is not something that is caused by mismanagement

The Iraq War, it can be argued, was entirely the result of mismanagement.

[Lesbia]

Sickening how easy it seems to be for so many to brush off this event like it was nothing at all.

[Cosara]

There was a period of 7 hours between the first attack and second attack. Also, wasn't there a team at the Benghazi airport that was told not to go?

From all the sources I've found, the only forces told to stand down were those outside of Benghazi that wouldn't have made it before the first attack finished. And frankly, there was no reason to suspect a second round of attacks.

What is the logic in keeping the remaining diplomats in a burning compound that had been broken into and set on fire by a well armed mob.

[Farnhamia]

From all the sources I've found, the only forces told to stand down were those outside of Benghazi that wouldn't have made it before the first attack finished. And frankly, there was no reason to suspect a second round of attacks.

What is the logic in keeping the remaining diplomats in a burning compound that had been broken into and set on fire by a well armed mob.

You aren't listening. The consulate was overwhelmed so quickly that there was no time to withdraw anyone. Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith died in what should have been a safe haven inside the main building.

[Wikkiwallana]

From all the sources I've found, the only forces told to stand down were those outside of Benghazi that wouldn't have made it before the first attack finished. And frankly, there was no reason to suspect a second round of attacks.

What is the logic in keeping the remaining diplomats in a burning compound that had been broken into and set on fire by a well armed mob.

Because fire is deadly but doesn't actively try to kill you, unlike the well-armed mob outside?

[Edlichbury]

From all the sources I've found, the only forces told to stand down were those outside of Benghazi that wouldn't have made it before the first attack finished. And frankly, there was no reason to suspect a second round of attacks.

What is the logic in keeping the remaining diplomats in a burning compound that had been broken into and set on fire by a well armed mob.

Not releasing the diplomats into said well-armed mob?

[Blackhelm Confederacy]

There was a period of 7 hours between the first attack and second attack. Also, wasn't there a team at the Benghazi airport that was told not to go?

From all the sources I've found, the only forces told to stand down were those outside of Benghazi that wouldn't have made it before the first attack finished. And frankly, there was no reason to suspect a second round of attacks.

Greg Hicks has said repeatedly that a fighter response, which could have been scrambled but was not, could have certainly averted the mortar attack that killed the two men at the CIA annex.

[Blackhelm Confederacy]

Replace slaughtered with murdered. They were murdered.

Okay, so what? They were killed. The word hardly matters.

Those men were murdered. How can you dispute that? If I set your house on fire and you died of smoke inhalation, I would be able to get away?

[Wikkiwallana]

From all the sources I've found, the only forces told to stand down were those outside of Benghazi that wouldn't have made it before the first attack finished. And frankly, there was no reason to suspect a second round of attacks.

Greg Hicks has said repeatedly that a fighter response, which could have been scrambled but was not, could have certainly averted the mortar attack that killed the two men at the CIA annex.

Then let Greg Hicks prove it.

[Farnhamia]

From all the sources I've found, the only forces told to stand down were those outside of Benghazi that wouldn't have made it before the first attack finished. And frankly, there was no reason to suspect a second round of attacks.

Greg Hicks has said repeatedly that a fighter response, which could have been scrambled but was not, could have certainly averted the mortar attack that killed the two men at the CIA annex.

And who is Greg Hicks when he's at home?

[Cosara]

What is the logic in keeping the remaining diplomats in a burning compound that had been broken into and set on fire by a well armed mob.

Not releasing the diplomats into said well-armed mob?

How about sending people in to get them out of there? Sounds like a logical solution.