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Would you kill all rich people or all poor people?

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Libertarian California
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Postby Libertarian California » Thu May 09, 2013 6:04 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
I expected nothing less from you. You religious folk are all the same.

you irreligious people are all the same. :eyebrow:


You religious extremists are all the same. :eyebrow:
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Postby Tyriece » Thu May 09, 2013 6:04 pm

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You both have yet again proven my point of how pointless this argument is.

This is a debate forum. Cut out the whining, it's fucking annoying.


Well i am debating just like you about your point with my point, so no.
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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 6:05 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Vazdania wrote:you irreligious people are all the same. :eyebrow:


You religious extremists are all the same. :eyebrow:

:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Postby Seperates » Thu May 09, 2013 6:05 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:He seems to think that there is something wrong with people debating here, on a fucking debate forum!

:lol2:

Anyways....

Hey, could you address the post at the bottom of 22, please?
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Postby Diopolis » Thu May 09, 2013 6:06 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Vazdania wrote:you irreligious people are all the same. :eyebrow:


You religious extremists are all the same. :eyebrow:

Because religious belief is totally the same thing as religious extremism.
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Postby Imperiatom » Thu May 09, 2013 6:06 pm

Vazdania wrote:
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Its the jew this time.

What Jew?


I am being silly.

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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 6:06 pm

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Vazdania wrote:Messianic Jews STILL need to follow the Law.

Not so. They may if they want to. But they do not need to. Paul explains this in his letter to (I think) the Romans. It is because salvation and righteousness does not come through following the law, but having faith, as argued by citing Genesis in which Abraham had faith in God and was considered righteous (even before the circumsicion). He argues that the only reason the law was made was to be a physical reminder of faith, but if you have faith without following the law, then there is no need to follow it.

Messianic Jews SHOULD follow the law, though their faith may not be the Rabbinic anymore, they have a responsibility because of their bloodline.
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Postby Lord Kandar » Thu May 09, 2013 6:07 pm

These people are stubborn, the rich need to die because they've lived a good life, and need to allow others to live a good life. The least the rich could do is donate.
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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 6:07 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
Vazdania wrote:What Jew?


I am being silly.

:p
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 09, 2013 6:07 pm

Tyriece wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:This is a debate forum. Cut out the whining, it's fucking annoying.


Well i am debating just like you about your point with my point, so no.

Yes, you're trying to shut down debate on a DEBATE FORUM.

I swear, I've never seen a single constructive post by you. Only whining about people sharing their opinions.
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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 6:08 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
You religious extremists are all the same. :eyebrow:

Because religious belief is totally the same thing as religious extremism.

I am a religious extremist
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Postby Imperiatom » Thu May 09, 2013 6:08 pm

New haven america wrote:
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And that effects your position on tax how exactly?

Native American's or people closely related to them don't have to pay most taxes, somehow it's the governments way of saying sorry.
Like, if I bought something from a store I'd pay taxes, but for most other things I wouldn't pay taxes when I turn 18


Strange. The people that need to be said sorry to are already dead.

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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 6:08 pm

Lord Kandar wrote:These people are stubborn, the rich need to die because they've lived a good life, and need to allow others to live a good life. The least the rich could do is donate.

I do donate.
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Postby New haven america » Thu May 09, 2013 6:09 pm

Lord Kandar wrote:These people are stubborn, the rich need to die because they've lived a good life, and need to allow others to live a good life. The least the rich could do is donate.

^This
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Postby Tyriece » Thu May 09, 2013 6:09 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Tyriece wrote:
Well i am debating just like you about your point with my point, so no.

Yes, you're trying to shut down debate on a DEBATE FORUM.

I swear, I've never seen a single constructive post by you. Only whining about people sharing their opinions.


Actually i am trying to get back to the topic which you and the bible man have derailed
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Postby Imperiatom » Thu May 09, 2013 6:09 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Why does the will of G-d need to be justified?


Because we are man and some of us have morality. We judge "god" accordingly for his genocidal tendencies.

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Postby Genivaria » Thu May 09, 2013 6:09 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Lord Kandar wrote:These people are stubborn, the rich need to die because they've lived a good life, and need to allow others to live a good life. The least the rich could do is donate.

I do donate.

So do I. I sent 21 dollars to the Human Right's Campaign two days ago.
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Postby Imperiatom » Thu May 09, 2013 6:10 pm

Lord Kandar wrote:These people are stubborn, the rich need to die because they've lived a good life, and need to allow others to live a good life. The least the rich could do is donate.


I do, its called Tax. :p

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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 6:11 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Vazdania wrote:I do donate.

So do I. I sent 21 dollars to the Human Right's Campaign two days ago.

:roll: we donate large sums.
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Postby New haven america » Thu May 09, 2013 6:11 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
New haven america wrote:Native American's or people closely related to them don't have to pay most taxes, somehow it's the governments way of saying sorry.
Like, if I bought something from a store I'd pay taxes, but for most other things I wouldn't pay taxes when I turn 18


Strange. The people that need to be said sorry to are already dead.

I'm fine with it.
Also when I turn 18 and I get a job, the government is legally not allowed to take the tax money from that check.
So, ya it awesome.
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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 6:11 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
Because we are man and some of us have morality. We judge "god" accordingly for his genocidal tendencies.

You judge G-d? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: *tears up from laughter*
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They Have No Voice; So I will Speak For Them. The Right To Life Is Fundamental To All Humans Regardless Of How Developed They Are. Pro-Woman. Pro-Child. Pro-Life.

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Postby Seperates » Thu May 09, 2013 6:12 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Seperates wrote:Not so. They may if they want to. But they do not need to. Paul explains this in his letter to (I think) the Romans. It is because salvation and righteousness does not come through following the law, but having faith, as argued by citing Genesis in which Abraham had faith in God and was considered righteous (even before the circumsicion). He argues that the only reason the law was made was to be a physical reminder of faith, but if you have faith without following the law, then there is no need to follow it.

Messianic Jews SHOULD follow the law, though their faith may not be the Rabbinic anymore, they have a responsibility because of their bloodline.

Again, not so. Nowhere in the New Testament does it say that Messianic Jews should follow anything the Gentiles do not have to. After-all that would defeat the purpose of Christianity would it not? The principle that all peoples are equal in the eyes of God? Why should he have any further expectations of the Jews than of the Gentiles?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu May 09, 2013 6:12 pm

Quibble with the aliens over how we determine rich and poor until they get frustrated and go home vowing to never return to this dickish planet of argumentative assholes, thus saving the Earth.

Then I'd go on the internet to tell the world how I saved them, but in the form of a hypothetical so they never believe me or know how I saved them from annihilation.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 09, 2013 6:13 pm

Vazdania wrote:
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You judge G-d? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: *tears up from laughter*

Nothing is above judgment. Not even a megalomaniac with a superiority complex.
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Postby Tyriece » Thu May 09, 2013 6:13 pm

Forum on rich and the poor? FUCK THAT lets talk about god being not real/real!! ...
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