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Would you kill all rich people or all poor people?

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Regnum Dominae
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 09, 2013 5:36 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:If you don't explain, we can't even attempt to understand.

:P its difficult to explain.

*rings Menassa bell*
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Vazdania
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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 5:36 pm

New haven america wrote:Kill all the rich, they don't do anything.

except you know...RUN the business that GIVE YOU A JOB.
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Postby Lemanrussland » Thu May 09, 2013 5:36 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Lemanrussland wrote:Define "rich" and "poor". I am quite wealthy compared to most people in the world, but not compared to my countrymen.


When you listen to make it rain, it's either this fantasy or just another day in the week. If it's the former, you're poor. If the latter, you're rich.

:lol2:

Seriously though, faced with this decision, I would probably kill the rich, less people would die and there would be less overall damage to humanity. Ideally, we shouldn't be killing anyone though.

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Vazdania
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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 5:37 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Vazdania wrote::P its difficult to explain.

*rings Menassa bell*

Lordy Lordy Lordy get him over here please!
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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 5:39 pm

Lemanrussland wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
When you listen to make it rain, it's either this fantasy or just another day in the week. If it's the former, you're poor. If the latter, you're rich.

:lol2:

Seriously though, faced with this decision, I would probably kill the rich, less people would die and there would be less overall damage to humanity. Ideally, we shouldn't be killing anyone though.

*dies because of your decision* X_X
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Postby New haven america » Thu May 09, 2013 5:40 pm

Vazdania wrote:
New haven america wrote:Kill all the rich, they don't do anything.

except you know...RUN the business that GIVE YOU A JOB.

I don't have a job, only 3 months away from the age where I can get a job in my state.
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Postby Imperiatom » Thu May 09, 2013 5:42 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Seperates wrote:And now you are just playing around with synonyms.

its very difficult to explain, and I don't know if non believers are capable of understanding it.


Good argument. One needs to be a fellow deluded person to understand. Its not logical and what we don't understand is why somebody not brainwashed from an early age could believe it.

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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 5:42 pm

New haven america wrote:
Vazdania wrote:except you know...RUN the business that GIVE YOU A JOB.

I don't have a job, only 3 months away from the age where I can get a job in my state.

:palm: not you specifically.
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Postby Imperiatom » Thu May 09, 2013 5:42 pm

New haven america wrote:Kill all the rich, they don't do anything.


We pay your wages. :clap:

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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 5:42 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
Vazdania wrote:its very difficult to explain, and I don't know if non believers are capable of understanding it.


Good argument. One needs to be a fellow deluded person to understand. Its not logical and what we don't understand is why somebody not brainwashed from an early age could believe it.

I was not religious when I was younger?
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Regnum Dominae
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 09, 2013 5:44 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
Good argument. One needs to be a fellow deluded person to understand. Its not logical and what we don't understand is why somebody not brainwashed from an early age could believe it.

I was not religious when I was younger?

Why did you come to religion?
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby New haven america » Thu May 09, 2013 5:45 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
New haven america wrote:Kill all the rich, they don't do anything.


We pay your wages. :clap:

And I burn you alive, see how it works :twisted:
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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 5:45 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Vazdania wrote:I was not religious when I was younger?

Why did you come to religion?

:unsure: G-d called me? I've no idea actually.
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Postby Seperates » Thu May 09, 2013 5:45 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Seperates wrote:And now you are just playing around with synonyms.

its very difficult to explain, and I don't know if non believers are capable of understanding it.

Please don't be pretentious with me.

Ok. Lets go to Acts 10, shall we? During this time, the Church was argueing amongst itself with other "Jewish Christians" about how Gentiles should follow the law, as Christianity was increasing in popularity, especially among Roman soldiers stationed around Israel. Peter has a vision in which God tells him that he has made clean was what previously unclean. And with this he first told a soldier named Cornelius that he tells the 'good news'. And that is why Christian no longer have to follow the law (or in that mindset, Gentile Jews no longer have to follow the law). They much merely fear Him and do what acceptable to Him.

It's not because of your semantics.
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Postby Imperiatom » Thu May 09, 2013 5:47 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
Good argument. One needs to be a fellow deluded person to understand. Its not logical and what we don't understand is why somebody not brainwashed from an early age could believe it.

I was not religious when I was younger?


That makes the whole thing worse. Join me on a journey of spiritual Mysticism and nihilism. Awaken your conscious.
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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 5:47 pm

Seperates wrote:
Vazdania wrote:its very difficult to explain, and I don't know if non believers are capable of understanding it.

Please don't be pretentious with me.

Ok. Lets go to Acts 10, shall we? During this time, the Church was argueing amongst itself with other "Jewish Christians" about how Gentiles should follow the law, as Christianity was increasing in popularity, especially among Roman soldiers stationed around Israel. Peter has a vision in which God tells him that he has made clean was what previously unclean. And with this he first told a soldier named Cornelius that he tells the 'good news'. And that is why Christian no longer have to follow the law (or in that mindset, Gentile Jews no longer have to follow the law). They much merely fear Him and do what acceptable to Him.

It's not because of your semantics.

not trying to be pretentious T.T sorry.


"Gentile Jews?" there is no such thing as a Gentile Jew.
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Postby Imperiatom » Thu May 09, 2013 5:48 pm

New haven america wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
We pay your wages. :clap:

And I burn you alive, see how it works :twisted:


Not really as we still pay your wages.
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Vazdania
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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 5:48 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
Vazdania wrote:I was not religious when I was younger?


That makes the whole thing worse. Join me on a journey of spiritual Mysticism and nihilism. Awaken your conscious.

Nihilism is disgusting. Existentialism for life!
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We Monarchists Stand With The Morals Of The Past, As We Hatch Impossible Treasons Against The Present.

They Have No Voice; So I will Speak For Them. The Right To Life Is Fundamental To All Humans Regardless Of How Developed They Are. Pro-Woman. Pro-Child. Pro-Life.

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Regnum Dominae
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 09, 2013 5:49 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
That makes the whole thing worse. Join me on a journey of spiritual Mysticism and nihilism. Awaken your conscious.

Nihilism is disgusting. Existentialism for life!

Materialist determinism is superior.
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I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby New haven america » Thu May 09, 2013 5:49 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
New haven america wrote:And I burn you alive, see how it works :twisted:


Not really as i still pay your wages.

Not mine, I'm not able to get a job seeing as how I'm 3 months away from being able to get a job, and my mom was in the hospital for 2 months and can't work right now.
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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 5:49 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Nihilism is disgusting. Existentialism for life!

Materialist determinism is superior.

ew.
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We Monarchists Stand With The Morals Of The Past, As We Hatch Impossible Treasons Against The Present.

They Have No Voice; So I will Speak For Them. The Right To Life Is Fundamental To All Humans Regardless Of How Developed They Are. Pro-Woman. Pro-Child. Pro-Life.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 09, 2013 5:50 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Materialist determinism is superior.

ew.

ew to existentialism.
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby Imperiatom » Thu May 09, 2013 5:51 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
That makes the whole thing worse. Join me on a journey of spiritual Mysticism and nihilism. Awaken your conscious.

Nihilism is disgusting. Existentialism for life!


Reality is disgusting? very interesting. I suppose this is where i rip your scripture to shreds for all its contradictions and the immorality of "god".

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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 5:51 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Vazdania wrote:ew.

ew to existentialism.

D: I am saddened, but am not pursuing any action which would make you want to attack it further.
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We Monarchists Stand With The Morals Of The Past, As We Hatch Impossible Treasons Against The Present.

They Have No Voice; So I will Speak For Them. The Right To Life Is Fundamental To All Humans Regardless Of How Developed They Are. Pro-Woman. Pro-Child. Pro-Life.

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Postby 4years » Thu May 09, 2013 5:51 pm

George Lincoln Rockwells legacy wrote:
4years wrote:
Some violence is necessary, yes. It is clearly not necessary to eliminate every rich person. And revolutions have occurred in the past with minimal loss of life, the February Revolution in Russia is a good example and the subsequent October Revolution was bloodless in Petrograd. Also the reason violence is necessary is because if a socialist government were to be elected and act in the interests of the workers against the rich, the rich would employ violence in order to maintain their dominance of society, thus violence in return for violence not violence for the sake of violence quite a difference.



Marx was an idiot, The Rich and Poor and middle class need to come together as Christians


"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people." -Karl Marx
Which is a good summation of what I think of Christianity. And what about all the other religions? And there is no proof whatsoever that Christianity, in any form is correct. Also which type of Christianity do you refer to? You don't get to call Marx an idiot until you have written as much as he did or have read on formed a coherent opinion on all his work, I suspect that you have done neither of the above.
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