Did the US supply weapons?

[Skibereen]

What need for justification? In both WW1 and WW2 the US was a strictly neutral power (legally) until forced into the war - in the first by our war-mongering idiot of a President, Wilson, and in the second by being attacked by the Japanese. Neutral powers are perfectly allowed to trade with belligerants, there is nothing wrong with them doing so.

Technically supplying arms isnt "strictly neutral" that being the case there exists a need for justification. The justification being the money, and political influence.

[Dododecapod]

What need for justification? In both WW1 and WW2 the US was a strictly neutral power (legally) until forced into the war - in the first by our war-mongering idiot of a President, Wilson, and in the second by being attacked by the Japanese. Neutral powers are perfectly allowed to trade with belligerants, there is nothing wrong with them doing so.

Technically supplying arms isnt "strictly neutral" that being the case there exists a need for justification. The justification being the money, and political influence.

It's strictly neutral as long as you treat all belligerants equally. To be fair, the US didn't - they gave considerably more assistance to the British and Britain's allies than they did to Germany and Germany's allies. Illegally so, in the case of WWI.

[Libertarian Governance]

The US government wasn't officially helping the Nazis in WW2 but there have been documents released showing prominent companies and people were involved in some dealings with Nazi Germany. Prescott Bush was a director with Brown Brothers Harriman which helped some of the financiers of Hitlers rise to power and the firms assets were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act in 1942. Prescott Bush actually was involved with many of Fritz Thyssen's firms. German subsidiaries of Ford and GM produced war material for Nazi Germany and there are many people claiming they profited from slave labor too. Opel was a company completely owned by GM that produced aircraft engines and parts in partnership with Junkers. GE, Standard Oil and Chase Bank are among other firms implicated in scandalous dealings with Nazi Germany.

Not only did these companies make German weaponry but they were compensated by the wonderful US government following the war for damage to their plants in Germany.

[Gun Manufacturers]

The father of Oliver North sold some V1s to the Nazi Germans, no?

Um, no. The V-1 was designed and built in Germany.

[Call to power]

Why do you think I have any problem with that? Read my post. I don't give a damn about the Lusitania; I'm much more annoyed at that fucking moron Woodrow Wilson who got a lot of Americans killed for nothing. We had no business EVER getting involved in WWI.

I mean its not like the Kaiser had made plans before to the start of the war to attack to US or anything and he was totally loving capitalism

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/ma ... teconnolly (apologies for the spelling)

[Dododecapod]

Why do you think I have any problem with that? Read my post. I don't give a damn about the Lusitania; I'm much more annoyed at that fucking moron Woodrow Wilson who got a lot of Americans killed for nothing. We had no business EVER getting involved in WWI.

I mean its not like the Kaiser had made plans before to the start of the war to attack to US or anything and he was totally loving capitalism

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/ma ... teconnolly (apologies for the spelling)

Dude, the US had detailed plans on how to fight Britain, France, Germany, and Russia that were continually updated from 1905 to 1925. That was how the world was in that era.

[Rhodmhire]

The father of Oliver North sold some V1s to the Nazi Germans, no?

I don't know how the fuck North would have gotten his hands on them, and I don't know why the Germans would want to by something of such nature from an external source that they were producing themselves...

[Call to power]

Dude, the US had detailed plans on how to fight Britain, France, Germany, and Russia that were continually updated from 1905 to 1925. That was how the world was in that era.

read that again please.

Because of his loyalty to the Kaiser, he bit his tongue, and at one point, according to the documents, was on the verge of ordering the invasion of New York, before insisting that Germany had too few troops for such an operation.

also the Kaiser was fiercely anti-American (hence the plan to attack the US) believing that American capitalism would collapse in the wake of a German invasion

in short the Kaiser was a very very naughty man who had he gained control of Europe would been a total dick to US interests with all his militarism

[Dododecapod]

Dude, the US had detailed plans on how to fight Britain, France, Germany, and Russia that were continually updated from 1905 to 1925. That was how the world was in that era.

read that again please.

Because of his loyalty to the Kaiser, he bit his tongue, and at one point, according to the documents, was on the verge of ordering the invasion of New York, before insisting that Germany had too few troops for such an operation.

also the Kaiser was fiercely anti-American (hence the plan to attack the US) believing that American capitalism would collapse in the wake of a German invasion

in short the Kaiser was a very very naughty man who had he gained control of Europe would been a total dick to US interests with all his militarism

Yup. Still no good reason for the US to go to war against him in 1916. And Wilson was still an ass and a liar for doing it.