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Who will be the superpowers by 2050

USA
448
24%
China
481
26%
India
194
10%
Indonesia
21
1%
Brazil
147
8%
Russia
161
9%
South africa
22
1%
Germany
158
8%
Japan
81
4%
Other
155
8%
 
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:12 am

Oceasia wrote:
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Small and advanced.

Small countries are usually advanced


Madagascar not. East Timor not. Tonga not.
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Postby Oceasia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:15 am

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Oceasia wrote:Small countries are usually advanced


Madagascar not. East Timor not. Tonga not.

XD, Madagscar is not even small, but you are right on the others
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Postby Dundee Derry » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:17 am

Personally I think the Marsian colonies will have a large mining/manufacturing base by then, a substantial middle class, and be campaigning for independence by 2050. Whether they will have acheived true superpower status by then is something only the Gods would know... I've also had my money on Australia acheiving superpower status at some point...
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Postby Bvriania » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:20 am

I'd say Brazil can be one because they have a good economy, a good military and a big population. The EU could too because of a high population, the biggest economy in the world and powerful countries like Germany, France and Italy apart of it.
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Postby Caninope » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:31 pm

Bvriania wrote:I'd say Brazil can be one because they have a good economy, a good military and a big population. The EU could too because of a high population, the biggest economy in the world and powerful countries like Germany, France and Italy apart of it.

Why do people keep saying Brazil can be a superpower?
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Postby Yankee Empire » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:30 pm

Caninope wrote:
Bvriania wrote:I'd say Brazil can be one because they have a good economy, a good military and a big population. The EU could too because of a high population, the biggest economy in the world and powerful countries like Germany, France and Italy apart of it.

Why do people keep saying Brazil can be a superpower?

Because it could be.
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Postby Libertarian California » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:38 pm

Canada and Russia.

Global warming will warm up those places and turn them into breadbaskets.

Although, I still hope that Pax Americana lasts well past 2050.
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Postby Caninope » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:11 pm

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Caninope wrote:Why do people keep saying Brazil can be a superpower?

Because it could be.

It really can't. Brazil is, in no way, possible of building the necessary infrastructure to support itself as a superpower within the next 37 years.
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:12 pm

Libertarian California wrote:Canada and Russia.

Global warming will warm up those places and turn them into breadbaskets.

Although, I still hope that Pax Americana lasts well past 2050.


If being liked made a country a superpower, sure, Canada would be more powerful than the States.

Unfortunately, popularity does not necessarily result in power.

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Postby Keronians » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:50 pm

The US will still be a superpower, and I am fairly certain that China will arise to become one as well, although it is almost inevitable for it to have a massive drop in a couple of years' time.

Europe, if it becomes a confederation / federation would be a shoo-in for superpower status as well.

That's pretty much it. Russia will continue to lose its military power, and I doubt Brazil will get anywhere militarily. India will be a great Asian power, but I doubt it will be capable of exerting influence across the globe a la USA and (eventually) China.
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Postby Keronians » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:51 pm

Caninope wrote:
Yankee Empire wrote:Because it could be.

It really can't. Brazil is, in no way, possible of building the necessary infrastructure to support itself as a superpower within the next 37 years.


Those people are probably thinking that it can become an economic superpower.

Or they are really naïve. Whatever suits you best.
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Postby Soviet Russia Republic » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:53 pm

Keronians wrote:The US will still be a superpower, and I am fairly certain that China will arise to become one as well, although it is almost inevitable for it to have a massive drop in a couple of years' time.

Europe, if it becomes a confederation / federation would be a shoo-in for superpower status as well.

That's pretty much it. Russia will continue to lose its military power, and I doubt Brazil will get anywhere militarily. India will be a great Asian power, but I doubt it will be capable of exerting influence across the globe a la USA and (eventually) China.


Russia will continue to lose its military power? In order to do that it would have to stop improving its military power first and stop increasing funding (now third in the word) for it.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:56 pm

Keronians wrote:The US will still be a superpower, and I am fairly certain that China will arise to become one as well, although it is almost inevitable for it to have a massive drop in a couple of years' time.

Europe, if it becomes a confederation / federation would be a shoo-in for superpower status as well.

That's pretty much it. Russia will continue to lose its military power, and I doubt Brazil will get anywhere militarily. India will be a great Asian power, but I doubt it will be capable of exerting influence across the globe a la USA and (eventually) China.


India is the regional power of his own region. Russia will have to modernize its military power and improve its economy power before reaching the status of superpower, although they will be the energy superpower with their fuel resources.

Brazil still lacks infrastructures, good state of economy, and a somewhat balanced civil rights.
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Postby Keronians » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:05 pm

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Keronians wrote:The US will still be a superpower, and I am fairly certain that China will arise to become one as well, although it is almost inevitable for it to have a massive drop in a couple of years' time.

Europe, if it becomes a confederation / federation would be a shoo-in for superpower status as well.

That's pretty much it. Russia will continue to lose its military power, and I doubt Brazil will get anywhere militarily. India will be a great Asian power, but I doubt it will be capable of exerting influence across the globe a la USA and (eventually) China.


Russia will continue to lose its military power? In order to do that it would have to stop improving its military power first and stop increasing funding (now third in the word) for it.


The rate at which it's doing it is less than the decay of its current arsenal.
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Postby Keronians » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:06 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Keronians wrote:The US will still be a superpower, and I am fairly certain that China will arise to become one as well, although it is almost inevitable for it to have a massive drop in a couple of years' time.

Europe, if it becomes a confederation / federation would be a shoo-in for superpower status as well.

That's pretty much it. Russia will continue to lose its military power, and I doubt Brazil will get anywhere militarily. India will be a great Asian power, but I doubt it will be capable of exerting influence across the globe a la USA and (eventually) China.


India is the regional power of his own region. Russia will have to modernize its military power and improve its economy power before reaching the status of superpower, although they will be the energy superpower with their fuel resources.

Brazil still lacks infrastructures, good state of economy, and a somewhat balanced civil rights.


Yeah, India is the regional power. But it's still not very relevant internationally outside of the area of trade.
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Postby Soviet Russia Republic » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:17 pm

Keronians wrote:
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Russia will continue to lose its military power? In order to do that it would have to stop improving its military power first and stop increasing funding (now third in the word) for it.


The rate at which it's doing it is less than the decay of its current arsenal.


I'm not sure what exactly you mean. If you mean in the capabilities of the Russian military, than you are absolutely mistaken. If you refer to sheer numbers of military hardware, the plan is to decrease the unnecessary numbers. Making the military for effective and more high tech. Each year military production of new hardware has been increasing steadily as well. Along with increasing research and development. Let us not forget the recent years of the Russian military strengthening military potions in allied nations, at the same time the integration of some of their own and Russia's defense networks.
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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:23 pm

Kelmet wrote:Russia in NATO?


What the?
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Postby Free Detroit » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:31 pm

US probably still will be, unless it totally fails to reign in its domination by the private sector and institute some democratic reforms. China probably still will be, and will also bring their military up to par with their economic clout and solidify their control over colonies in Africa; though, like the US, there is the possibility of crisis without democratic reform. Brazil is still way too far off to make it by 2050, as is India; they'll both remain regional powers with minimal outside influence. Russia could come back to superpower status without too much trouble, though I'm not quite confident that they will.The EU, as a whole, could easily become a superpower if the member nations continue to draw closer together.I don't think there's any real drive for it in Japan. The idea of Indonesia or South Africa as superpowers is entirely laughable.
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:51 pm

Free Detroit wrote:China probably still will be
China isn't a superpower right now. It is a world power.
Russia could come back to superpower status without too much trouble
Yes, it would be difficult for Russia to reclaim its superpower status at this point
The EU, as a whole, could easily become a superpower if the member nations continue to draw closer together
To continue to draw closer together there would need to be a general trend towards drawing closer together already in motion. There is not.
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Postby Libertarian California » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:12 pm

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Libertarian California wrote:Canada and Russia.

Global warming will warm up those places and turn them into breadbaskets.

Although, I still hope that Pax Americana lasts well past 2050.


If being liked made a country a superpower, sure, Canada would be more powerful than the States.

Unfortunately, popularity does not necessarily result in power.


But extensive natural resources do.
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Postby Libertarian California » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:13 pm

Kelmet wrote:Russia in NATO?


A Russo-American alliance could easily take over the world.
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