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Who will be the superpowers by 2050

USA
448
24%
China
481
26%
India
194
10%
Indonesia
21
1%
Brazil
147
8%
Russia
161
9%
South africa
22
1%
Germany
158
8%
Japan
81
4%
Other
155
8%
 
Total votes : 1868

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Postby Seleucas » Fri May 10, 2013 6:14 pm

My guess is that the irreparable problems in the US can no longer be kicked down the road between now and 2050, and the US will lose its superpower status. It will still probably be a regional power, barring breakaway states, but it will be a good ways back.

My guess is that most of the power in the future is going to be concentrated in Asia; I think India actually has a better chance of superpower status, but China is practically there at this point.
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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Fri May 10, 2013 6:15 pm

Seleucas wrote:My guess is that the irreparable problems in the US can no longer be kicked down the road between now and 2050, and the US will lose its superpower status. It will still probably be a regional power, barring breakaway states, but it will be a good ways back.

My guess is that most of the power in the future is going to be concentrated in Asia; I think India actually has a better chance of superpower status, but China is practically there at this point.


China is not a superpower by any stretch of the imagination.
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Postby United Nationsof America » Fri May 10, 2013 6:17 pm

The United States of America will still be the top superpower.
Reason: If you don't live here, us citizens know our military is ahead any other by 20 years. but they don't tell us much more then that. Also Top International Ecomnists believe the U.S will be the top PRODUCERS of Oil because of Alaska. Also for the fact that our allies have very high amounts of resources such as Germany, Japan, Canada, South Korea, South Africa...
YES, our economy is "a mess" but in reality our Dollar can be printed to an infinite amount, value wont matter of countries don't accept our money because we would Sanction or Invade.

Germany Will be a Major Super Power also!!!
Reason: They have a amazing industry and economy. There military is moderate but there tech is amazing.


P.S DO NOT FLAME OR MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT IS NOT SUPPORTED BY ACTUAL FACTS YOU WILL NOT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH ME.

P.P.S DO NOT FLAME BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE U.S OR BECAUSE YOUR NOT FROM HERE.


P.P.P.S WE ALSO DO NOT NEED THOSE BULL - CRAP COMMENTS ABOUT STUPID AMERICANS BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I AM MORE INTELLIGENT THEN YOU ( if your not some teacher or scientist)

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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Fri May 10, 2013 6:19 pm

United Nationsof America wrote:The United States of America will still be the top superpower.
Reason: If you don't live here, us citizens know our military is ahead any other by 20 years. but they don't tell us much more then that. Also Top International Ecomnists believe the U.S will be the top PRODUCERS of Oil because of Alaska. Also for the fact that our allies have very high amounts of resources such as Germany, Japan, Canada, South Korea, South Africa...
YES, our economy is "a mess" but in reality our Dollar can be printed to an infinite amount, value wont matter of countries don't accept our money because we would Sanction or Invade.

Germany Will be a Major Super Power also!!!
Reason: They have a amazing industry and economy. There military is moderate but there tech is amazing.


P.S DO NOT FLAME OR MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT IS NOT SUPPORTED BY ACTUAL FACTS YOU WILL NOT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH ME.

P.P.S DO NOT FLAME BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE U.S OR BECAUSE YOUR NOT FROM HERE.


P.P.P.S WE ALSO DO NOT NEED THOSE BULL - CRAP COMMENTS ABOUT STUPID AMERICANS BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I AM MORE INTELLIGENT THEN YOU ( if your not some teacher or scientist)


As a supporter of American-hegemony, albeit a foreign one...

Please stop making us look bad with your crass jingoism.
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Postby Viknovia » Fri May 10, 2013 6:19 pm

China will become a superpower before 2050 , but it wont be long-lasting. I recently read an interesting article by the National Geographic. It talked about the one-child policy in China and how by 2050 a good portion of the population will be 65 and older and there will not be enough young people to support the nation.

I would say that there is a good chance that Brazil or India will become a powerful force in the world.
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Postby Norcroft » Fri May 10, 2013 6:19 pm

india or china but probably china. That or Finland or Australia.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri May 10, 2013 6:20 pm

United Nationsof America wrote:The United States of America will still be the top superpower.
Reason: If you don't live here, us citizens know our military is ahead any other by 20 years. but they don't tell us much more then that. Also Top International Ecomnists believe the U.S will be the top PRODUCERS of Oil because of Alaska. Also for the fact that our allies have very high amounts of resources such as Germany, Japan, Canada, South Korea, South Africa...
YES, our economy is "a mess" but in reality our Dollar can be printed to an infinite amount, value wont matter of countries don't accept our money because we would Sanction or Invade.

Germany Will be a Major Super Power also!!!
Reason: They have a amazing industry and economy. There military is moderate but there tech is amazing.


P.S DO NOT FLAME OR MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT IS NOT SUPPORTED BY ACTUAL FACTS YOU WILL NOT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH ME.

P.P.S DO NOT FLAME BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE U.S OR BECAUSE YOUR NOT FROM HERE.


P.P.P.S WE ALSO DO NOT NEED THOSE BULL - CRAP COMMENTS ABOUT STUPID AMERICANS BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I AM MORE INTELLIGENT THEN YOU ( if your not some teacher or scientist)


You disgrace the imaginary lines drawn on a man-made piece of property and it's local monopoly on coercion, theft and force.

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Postby Oceasia » Fri May 10, 2013 6:20 pm

Viknovia wrote:China will become a superpower before 2050 , but it wont be long-lasting. I recently read an interesting article by the National Geographic. It talked about the one-child policy in China and how by 2050 a good portion of the population will be 65 and older and there will not be enough young people to support the nation.

Just like Japan's case, and that's why they won't be a superpower
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Postby United Nationsof America » Fri May 10, 2013 6:21 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Seleucas wrote:My guess is that the irreparable problems in the US can no longer be kicked down the road between now and 2050, and the US will lose its superpower status. It will still probably be a regional power, barring breakaway states, but it will be a good ways back.

My guess is that most of the power in the future is going to be concentrated in Asia; I think India actually has a better chance of superpower status, but China is practically there at this point.


China is not a superpower by any stretch of the imagination.

I would have to agree with you on that one. Many people believe that if you have a big army then you're the best. I'm not stating that anyone on here is one, but these comments are coming from the UN - EDUCATED people about military.
IF you are one don't argue with me about military facts because in the end you WILL make a FOOL of your selves.

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Postby Conservalandem » Fri May 10, 2013 6:21 pm

Yea, uhm, all the liberal journalist in the 80s claimed Japan would be the dominant superpower by now because of Ronald Reagan and the exact opposite happened. The U.S. has been on a thousand year peak of prestige thanks to Conservative Congresses & Presidencies.

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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Fri May 10, 2013 6:23 pm

United Nationsof America wrote:
EnragedMaldivians wrote:
China is not a superpower by any stretch of the imagination.

I would have to agree with you on that one.


Next time you do that, please keep it to yourself. For my sake.

IF you are one don't argue with me about military facts because in the end you WILL make a FOOL of your selves.


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Postby United Nationsof America » Fri May 10, 2013 6:27 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
United Nationsof America wrote:The United States of America will still be the top superpower.
Reason: If you don't live here, us citizens know our military is ahead any other by 20 years. but they don't tell us much more then that. Also Top International Ecomnists believe the U.S will be the top PRODUCERS of Oil because of Alaska. Also for the fact that our allies have very high amounts of resources such as Germany, Japan, Canada, South Korea, South Africa...
YES, our economy is "a mess" but in reality our Dollar can be printed to an infinite amount, value wont matter of countries don't accept our money because we would Sanction or Invade.

Germany Will be a Major Super Power also!!!
Reason: They have a amazing industry and economy. There military is moderate but there tech is amazing.


P.S DO NOT FLAME OR MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT IS NOT SUPPORTED BY ACTUAL FACTS YOU WILL NOT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH ME.

P.P.S DO NOT FLAME BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE U.S OR BECAUSE YOUR NOT FROM HERE.


P.P.P.S WE ALSO DO NOT NEED THOSE BULL - CRAP COMMENTS ABOUT STUPID AMERICANS BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I AM MORE INTELLIGENT THEN YOU ( if your not some teacher or scientist)


You disgrace the imaginary lines drawn on a man-made piece of property and it's local monopoly on coercion, theft and force.

Translated you your language: Your Country and Government.

Like I have previously stated i don't care for your negative comments. Did you even read my whole post?. Because you don't seem to understand what i was saying. READ MY P.S, P.P.S, and my P.P.P.S because everything you have said goes under that.
I don't understand why people my criticize even when they don't take the time to read my whole post.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri May 10, 2013 6:29 pm

United Nationsof America wrote:The United States of America will still be the top superpower.
Reason: If you don't live here, us citizens know our military is ahead any other by 20 years. but they don't tell us much more then that. Also Top International Ecomnists believe the U.S will be the top PRODUCERS of Oil because of Alaska. Also for the fact that our allies have very high amounts of resources such as Germany, Japan, Canada, South Korea, South Africa...
YES, our economy is "a mess" but in reality our Dollar can be printed to an infinite amount, value wont matter of countries don't accept our money because we would Sanction or Invade.

Germany Will be a Major Super Power also!!!
Reason: They have a amazing industry and economy. There military is moderate but there tech is amazing.


P.S DO NOT FLAME OR MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT IS NOT SUPPORTED BY ACTUAL FACTS YOU WILL NOT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH ME.

P.P.S DO NOT FLAME BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE U.S OR BECAUSE YOUR NOT FROM HERE.


P.P.P.S WE ALSO DO NOT NEED THOSE BULL - CRAP COMMENTS ABOUT STUPID AMERICANS BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I AM MORE INTELLIGENT THEN YOU ( if your not some teacher or scientist)

What.
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Postby Viknovia » Fri May 10, 2013 6:30 pm

I could also see the US being a superpower if it plays it's cards right. I know that the US has hit a rough patch of road , but I see many promising things in America. I'm very interested in the current generation of 18 yr olds in the US. They get a lot of bad rep , but many know and understand the current situation the US. They want to change America for the better and hopefully that happens.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri May 10, 2013 6:31 pm

Viknovia wrote:I could also see the US being a superpower if it plays it's cards right. I know that the US has hit a rough patch of road , but I see many promising things in America. I'm very interested in the current generation of 18 yr olds in the US. They get a lot of bad rep , but many know and understand the current situation the US. They want to change America for the better and hopefully that happens.

The USA is a superpower. Right now, and for a while, the only one.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri May 10, 2013 6:31 pm

United Nationsof America wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
You disgrace the imaginary lines drawn on a man-made piece of property and it's local monopoly on coercion, theft and force.

Translated you your language: Your Country and Government.

Like I have previously stated i don't care for your negative comments. Did you even read my whole post?. Because you don't seem to understand what i was saying. READ MY P.S, P.P.S, and my P.P.P.S because everything you have said goes under that.
I don't understand why people my criticize even when they don't take the time to read my whole post.
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Postby United Nationsof America » Fri May 10, 2013 6:32 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
United Nationsof America wrote:The United States of America will still be the top superpower.
Reason: If you don't live here, us citizens know our military is ahead any other by 20 years. but they don't tell us much more then that. Also Top International Ecomnists believe the U.S will be the top PRODUCERS of Oil because of Alaska. Also for the fact that our allies have very high amounts of resources such as Germany, Japan, Canada, South Korea, South Africa...
YES, our economy is "a mess" but in reality our Dollar can be printed to an infinite amount, value wont matter of countries don't accept our money because we would Sanction or Invade.

Germany Will be a Major Super Power also!!!
Reason: They have a amazing industry and economy. There military is moderate but there tech is amazing.


P.S DO NOT FLAME OR MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT IS NOT SUPPORTED BY ACTUAL FACTS YOU WILL NOT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH ME.

P.P.S DO NOT FLAME BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE U.S OR BECAUSE YOUR NOT FROM HERE.


P.P.P.S WE ALSO DO NOT NEED THOSE BULL - CRAP COMMENTS ABOUT STUPID AMERICANS BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I AM MORE INTELLIGENT THEN YOU ( if your not some teacher or scientist)

What.

I was simply Stating my beliefs and Facts to my knowledge, but some members on this forum are too immature to accept my beliefs and just have the need to start and argument.

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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri May 10, 2013 6:34 pm

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The map in Pandemic 2 is more feasible than that list of superpowers is.

On that note, Madagascar and Greenland will be superpowers.


Isn't that obvious that both of them possess nation-wide immunity against viruses, which are worse than invasion?
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Postby Seleucas » Fri May 10, 2013 6:34 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Seleucas wrote:My guess is that the irreparable problems in the US can no longer be kicked down the road between now and 2050, and the US will lose its superpower status. It will still probably be a regional power, barring breakaway states, but it will be a good ways back.

My guess is that most of the power in the future is going to be concentrated in Asia; I think India actually has a better chance of superpower status, but China is practically there at this point.


China is not a superpower by any stretch of the imagination.


China has 80% of the US's GDP, in terms of purchasing power parity. Didn't say it was a superpower, but it's pretty close.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri May 10, 2013 6:35 pm

United Nationsof America wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:What.

I was simply Stating my beliefs and Facts to my knowledge, but some members on this forum are too immature to accept my beliefs and just have the need to start and argument.

Is English your first language?
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Postby Oceasia » Fri May 10, 2013 6:35 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:The map in Pandemic 2 is more feasible than that list of superpowers is.

On that note, Madagascar and Greenland will be superpowers.


Isn't that obvious that both of them possess nation-wide immunity against viruses, which are worse than invasion?

Well, at least Madagascar is. And some island nations in the game like Cuba or Indonesia too. :)
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Postby United Nationsof America » Fri May 10, 2013 6:36 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
United Nationsof America wrote:Like I have previously stated i don't care for your negative comments. Did you even read my whole post?. Because you don't seem to understand what i was saying. READ MY P.S, P.P.S, and my P.P.P.S because everything you have said goes under that.
I don't understand why people my criticize even when they don't take the time to read my whole post.
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I did not break either of those. I am an American. I am a resident of Memphis, Tennessee and a proud Voluntarist.

Believe me I have pride in a good person but, you started and argument that i intend to end with this comment.
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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Fri May 10, 2013 6:37 pm

United Nationsof America wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:What.

I was simply Stating my beliefs and Facts to my knowledge, but some members on this forum are too immature to accept my beliefs and just have the need to start and argument.


This is a debate site. Where we're, ideally, supposed to debate. It's not meant to be a site for every high-schooler with a large ego to barge into, proclaim their opinion which must not be challenged, and trumpet their self-professed intellectual superiority to everyone else.
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Postby ConnorR » Fri May 10, 2013 6:38 pm

Im going Ireland for the lolz, I would love to see Ireland being the world leader :D
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri May 10, 2013 6:38 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:
United Nationsof America wrote:I was simply Stating my beliefs and Facts to my knowledge, but some members on this forum are too immature to accept my beliefs and just have the need to start and argument.


This is a debate site. Where we're, ideally, supposed to debate. It's not meant to be a site for every high-schooler with a large ego to barge into, proclaim their opinion which must not be challenged, and trumpet their self-professed intellectual superiority to everyone else.


Exactly.
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