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Postby Libertarian California » Tue May 07, 2013 6:35 pm

OH MY FUCKING GOD A RUBBER TARGET!


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AND FAKE BLOOD!


THE HORROR!!!!
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Tue May 07, 2013 6:41 pm

Libertarian California wrote:OH MY FUCKING GOD A RUBBER TARGET!


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AND FAKE BLOOD!


THE HORROR!!!!


And. Y'know.

Misogyny.

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Postby Disserbia » Tue May 07, 2013 6:46 pm

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Cred I'm fairly sure TED has.

He can stand on his own merits.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Tue May 07, 2013 6:47 pm

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Cred I'm fairly sure TED has.

He can stand on his own merits.

Can he?


Certainly is debatable, you know, internet cred and all that jazz.

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Postby Burnnan » Tue May 07, 2013 6:49 pm

oh right blame the NRA! im not an NRA member but i think people and mainstream news demonize it to much.
Why isnt anyone mad that the DHS(Department of Homeland Security) is buying millions of targets that represent children old people and pregnant woman holding guns!! or why is the DHS buying 2billion rounds of ammo enough to sustain the united sates in total war for 20 years or even more! but of course no one give a crake about it i see!!

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue May 07, 2013 6:50 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:OH MY FUCKING GOD A RUBBER TARGET!


...


AND FAKE BLOOD!


THE HORROR!!!!


And. Y'know.

Misogyny.


Hating an ex-girlfriend isn't misogyny.
You see it everywhere for fucks sake.
Yes, hating someone enough to buy a shooting target of them is pretty messed up. It doesn't make you a misogynist.
"A woman is being shot." = "PATRIARCHYMISOGYNYSEXISM"

no.
It's a woman being shot. None of that other stuff is connected to it, necessarily.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Tue May 07, 2013 6:51 pm

Burnnan wrote:oh right blame the NRA! im not an NRA member but i think people and mainstream news demonize it to much.
Why isnt anyone mad that the DHS(Department of Homeland Security) is buying millions of targets that represent children old people and pregnant woman holding guns!! or why is the DHS buying 2billion rounds of ammo enough to sustain the united sates in total war for 20 years or even more! but of course no one give a crake about it i see!!


Please, id like to see a source to back up your claim that 2billion rounds will sustain the US in a "total war" scenario for 20+ years.

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Postby Euskara » Tue May 07, 2013 6:58 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:OH MY FUCKING GOD A RUBBER TARGET!


...


AND FAKE BLOOD!


THE HORROR!!!!


And. Y'know.

Misogyny.


OH NOES!! PEOPLE EXERCISING FREEDOM OF THOUGHT!! KILL THEM ALL!!!!!!!

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Postby Trotskylvania » Tue May 07, 2013 6:59 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
And. Y'know.

Misogyny.


Hating an ex-girlfriend isn't misogyny.
You see it everywhere for fucks sake.
Yes, hating someone enough to buy a shooting target of them is pretty messed up. It doesn't make you a misogynist.
"A woman is being shot." = "PATRIARCHYMISOGYNYSEXISM"

no.
It's a woman being shot. None of that other stuff is connected to it, necessarily.

Hating an ex-gf doesn't mean I want to shoot her. Whether literally or by proxy.

Products like this reveal that they don't think very highly of their target demographic. Also, sexy zombies that you're supposed to shoot are creepy in its own right. Do not want.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Tue May 07, 2013 7:00 pm

Euskara wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
And. Y'know.

Misogyny.


OH NOES!! PEOPLE EXERCISING FREEDOM OF THOUGHT!! KILL THEM ALL!!!!!!!

Shooting a simulacrum of your ex-gf doesn't say anything good about your mental health.
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Postby Nailed to the Perch » Tue May 07, 2013 7:01 pm

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It is worth noting that unlike the female zombie, the male zombies are in no way "sexy," do not look like realistic humans, are mostly things like "evil clown" and "Nazi" (and, again, "racist caricature of the President." I keep bringing this up because holy crap that is not okay), and do not come with cute little backstories involving them being killed because they cheated on you.


the sitting president had to go, as greed mentioned in a different thread, the secret service gets all uppity at using the sitting president as a target.

i am getting the feeling your objecting to the semi realistic 3D bleeding target dummy in general.


I mean, I'm not gonna lie, I think a bleeding target dummy is fairly icky in and of itself, but I do think there's a meaningful difference between "shoot a 3D bleeding cartoonish evil zombie clown!" and "shoot a 3D bleeding doll you dressed up like your ex-girlfriend!" If a friend told me he paid $90 for an evil zombie clown to shoot at, I would think that seemed like a dumb and kind of gross use of his money, but whatever, his money. If a friend told me, "I spent $90 on a doll to represent my ex and then I put a wig on it to look like her and then I SHOT IT IN THE FACE AND WATCHED IT BLEED" I would be backing away slowly while smiling, nodding, and pledging to stay the fuck away from that guy from then on.
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Postby Libertarian California » Tue May 07, 2013 7:02 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
And. Y'know.

Misogyny.


Hating an ex-girlfriend isn't misogyny.
You see it everywhere for fucks sake.
Yes, hating someone enough to buy a shooting target of them is pretty messed up. It doesn't make you a misogynist.
"A woman is being shot." = "PATRIARCHYMISOGYNYSEXISM"

no.
It's a woman being shot. None of that other stuff is connected to it, necessarily.


No. It's a rubber target being shot. That is not a woman.
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Postby Nailed to the Perch » Tue May 07, 2013 7:02 pm

Euskara wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
And. Y'know.

Misogyny.


OH NOES!! PEOPLE EXERCISING FREEDOM OF THOUGHT!! KILL THEM ALL!!!!!!!


This is definitely an accurate representation of TSM's position and not a ridiculous strawman at all. Definitely.
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Postby Euskara » Tue May 07, 2013 7:03 pm

Burnnan wrote:oh right blame the NRA! im not an NRA member but i think people and mainstream news demonize it to much.
Why isnt anyone mad that the DHS(Department of Homeland Security) is buying millions of targets that represent children old people and pregnant woman holding guns!! or why is the DHS buying 2billion rounds of ammo enough to sustain the united sates in total war for 20 years or even more! but of course no one give a crake about it i see!!


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Postby Libertarian California » Tue May 07, 2013 7:04 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:OH MY FUCKING GOD A RUBBER TARGET!


...


AND FAKE BLOOD!


THE HORROR!!!!


And. Y'know.

Misogyny.



Shooting a target of a person who brought you emotional pain because it's fun a way to spend 30 minutes and because it doesn't really mean anything outside some mindless fun = misogyny?


Whatever you say boss. :roll:
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue May 07, 2013 7:04 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:
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Hating an ex-girlfriend isn't misogyny.
You see it everywhere for fucks sake.
Yes, hating someone enough to buy a shooting target of them is pretty messed up. It doesn't make you a misogynist.
"A woman is being shot." = "PATRIARCHYMISOGYNYSEXISM"

no.
It's a woman being shot. None of that other stuff is connected to it, necessarily.

Hating an ex-gf doesn't mean I want to shoot her. Whether literally or by proxy.

Products like this reveal that they don't think very highly of their target demographic. Also, sexy zombies that you're supposed to shoot are creepy in its own right. Do not want.


I agree that the product is pretty offensive to gun users.
I simply don't see how it's misogyny.
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Postby Vareiln » Tue May 07, 2013 7:05 pm

This is beyond fucked up.

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Postby Euskara » Tue May 07, 2013 7:05 pm

Nailed to the Perch wrote:
Euskara wrote:
OH NOES!! PEOPLE EXERCISING FREEDOM OF THOUGHT!! KILL THEM ALL!!!!!!!


This is definitely an accurate representation of TSM's position and not a ridiculous strawman at all. Definitely.


That comment definitely wasn't a lurid exaggeration. Definitely. The all caps status of the type certainly doesn't intimate that.

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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Tue May 07, 2013 7:05 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Hating an ex-girlfriend isn't misogyny.
You see it everywhere for fucks sake.
Yes, hating someone enough to buy a shooting target of them is pretty messed up. It doesn't make you a misogynist.
"A woman is being shot." = "PATRIARCHYMISOGYNYSEXISM"

no.
It's a woman being shot. None of that other stuff is connected to it, necessarily.

Hating an ex-gf doesn't mean I want to shoot her. Whether literally or by proxy.

Products like this reveal that they don't think very highly of their target demographic. Also, sexy zombies that you're supposed to shoot are creepy in its own right. Do not want.

Frankly, I blame Call of Duty.

I didn't have to deal with any of this bullshit 'Zombie' ammunition, 'zombie' targets, or 'zombie mannequins' before Call of Duty. I mean, the most any zombie discussion got was usually a 'Well, I'd want this, this and this.' But ever since that damned game came out I have to deal with people talking about their 'zombie gun' and bullshit.

Screw you video games. Screw you. You have failed me.

Disclaimer: This is not actually a message about video games, nor is it some attempt to criticism them. I fuckin' love vide games. But in THIS instance? Fuck those guys who came up with zombies and inspired the trash-talking scum of the earth who play that game to decide to purchase real firearms.
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Postby Vareiln » Tue May 07, 2013 7:06 pm

Nailed to the Perch wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
the sitting president had to go, as greed mentioned in a different thread, the secret service gets all uppity at using the sitting president as a target.

i am getting the feeling your objecting to the semi realistic 3D bleeding target dummy in general.


I mean, I'm not gonna lie, I think a bleeding target dummy is fairly icky in and of itself, but I do think there's a meaningful difference between "shoot a 3D bleeding cartoonish evil zombie clown!" and "shoot a 3D bleeding doll you dressed up like your ex-girlfriend!" If a friend told me he paid $90 for an evil zombie clown to shoot at, I would think that seemed like a dumb and kind of gross use of his money, but whatever, his money. If a friend told me, "I spent $90 on a doll to represent my ex and then I put a wig on it to look like her and then I SHOT IT IN THE FACE AND WATCHED IT BLEED" I would be backing away slowly while smiling, nodding, and pledging to stay the fuck away from that guy from then on.

Very much this, yes.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Tue May 07, 2013 7:06 pm

Vareiln wrote:This is beyond fucked up.


I'd say beyond fucked up would be if the manufacturer allowed you to submit a picture, upon which the face/hair was styled after.

This is just bad taste in my book. Though I will fully admit I can see a legit use for a product such as this.

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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue May 07, 2013 7:09 pm

If its any consolation, the dummy looks like a zombie whore.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Tue May 07, 2013 7:09 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:If its any consolation, the dummy looks like a zombie whore.


Glad I'm not the only one. :lol2:

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Postby Libertarian California » Tue May 07, 2013 7:12 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:If its any consolation, the dummy looks like a zombie whore.


Exactly. So who cares? I mean if actually looked like your ex-girlfriend, then yeah, that's be morbid. However, this is just a rubber target of a stereotypical frat whore who just so happens to be your ex-girlfriend.

It's tongue-in-cheek.

No one in their right mind would use these as a form of "therapy". Honestly, this target is designed for a good half hour of mindless fun that you're not supposed to really even give much thought to afterwords. Because in the end, it's a piece of rubber.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue May 07, 2013 7:14 pm

Nailed to the Perch wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
the sitting president had to go, as greed mentioned in a different thread, the secret service gets all uppity at using the sitting president as a target.

i am getting the feeling your objecting to the semi realistic 3D bleeding target dummy in general.


I mean, I'm not gonna lie, I think a bleeding target dummy is fairly icky in and of itself, but I do think there's a meaningful difference between "shoot a 3D bleeding cartoonish evil zombie clown!" and "shoot a 3D bleeding doll you dressed up like your ex-girlfriend!" If a friend told me he paid $90 for an evil zombie clown to shoot at, I would think that seemed like a dumb and kind of gross use of his money, but whatever, his money. If a friend told me, "I spent $90 on a doll to represent my ex and then I put a wig on it to look like her and then I SHOT IT IN THE FACE AND WATCHED IT BLEED" I would be backing away slowly while smiling, nodding, and pledging to stay the fuck away from that guy from then on.


its wasnt evil ex, it was evil zombie ex, see there is a difference?


now you come back with "but even the company changed the name" and i m done, all that is left to me is some childish insult about your womanhood. (is there any particular one you would prefer i use?). and thats about it, i got nothing. excuse me while i go cry.
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