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Is this a good idea?

YES, Kokesh and those marching with him are patriots!!
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NO, They will all end up dead or arrested
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Tyriece
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Postby Tyriece » Mon May 06, 2013 11:04 am

I love how idiots have turned this into a race issue now... NSG minds can not comprehend anything not related to race,religion or gender..
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Postby Choronzon » Mon May 06, 2013 11:05 am

Irredento wrote:They don't think he wants to take away their civil liberties. They know.

No. They think.

If you want to argue that some elements in the Tea Party have been "racist", so be it, but people like Adam Kokesh are totally justified in their recent opposition to the administration's attempts at instituting more oppressive gun control laws.

NRA: Background checks and a registry are oppressive! What we really need to do is just create a federal registry of people with mental disorders instead!

Cause, you know, the NRA cares about liberty.

I'm actually Scottish but part of a small group of people who wish to see gun control laws repealed here.

Cool story bro.

Your opposition to one of the freedoms that makes your country great among the first world nations is something you have in common with a lot of other socialists and so I made an assumption. It wasn't intended to be an insult. It was just me pointing out that I could recognise your type from your accusations of racism for no particular reason along with your praise of the Obama administrations attempt to take guns from decent law-abiding people.

*sigh*

You don't know anything about America, what made us "great", or what the Obama administration's actual proposed legislation is. Now please go play with your toys so the grown ups with actual informed opinions can keep talking.
See, there you go doing it again. Nothing I've said would be construed by an ordinary person as "racist" but in the eyes of someone like yourself, just being white and opposing something a black guy does must make me racist, even if the black guy's actions are reprehensible.

You spew all these uninformed racist talking points. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it might very well be a racist.

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Postby Choronzon » Mon May 06, 2013 11:05 am

Tyriece wrote:NSG minds can not comprehend anything not related to race,religion or gender..

Some of us can, but whenever we try and discuss it people like you muddy the waters with ignorance and half truths.

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon May 06, 2013 11:06 am

Choronzon wrote:
Irredento wrote:They don't think he wants to take away their civil liberties. They know.

No. They think.

If you want to argue that some elements in the Tea Party have been "racist", so be it, but people like Adam Kokesh are totally justified in their recent opposition to the administration's attempts at instituting more oppressive gun control laws.

NRA: Background checks and a registry are oppressive! What we really need to do is just create a federal registry of people with mental disorders instead!

Cause, you know, the NRA cares about liberty.

I'm actually Scottish but part of a small group of people who wish to see gun control laws repealed here.

Cool story bro.

Your opposition to one of the freedoms that makes your country great among the first world nations is something you have in common with a lot of other socialists and so I made an assumption. It wasn't intended to be an insult. It was just me pointing out that I could recognise your type from your accusations of racism for no particular reason along with your praise of the Obama administrations attempt to take guns from decent law-abiding people.

*sigh*

You don't know anything about America, what made us "great", or what the Obama administration's actual proposed legislation is. Now please go play with your toys so the grown ups with actual informed opinions can keep talking.
See, there you go doing it again. Nothing I've said would be construed by an ordinary person as "racist" but in the eyes of someone like yourself, just being white and opposing something a black guy does must make me racist, even if the black guy's actions are reprehensible.

You spew all these uninformed racist talking points. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it might very well be a racist.

For the love of fuck.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505267_162-57477652/major-garrett-obama-has-expanded-not-reduced-gun-rights/

Obama has expanded, not reduced gun rights

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Postby Irredento » Mon May 06, 2013 11:06 am

Tyriece wrote:I love how idiots have turned this into a race issue now... NSG minds can not comprehend anything not related to race,religion or gender..

Yeah, I think I'll stop replying to anyone who calls me a "racist" from now on.

I support the Second Amendment and don't think very much of the Obama administration. I don't want to lynch anyone.

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Postby Choronzon » Mon May 06, 2013 11:07 am

The Emerald Dawn wrote:For the love of fuck.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505267_162-57477652/major-garrett-obama-has-expanded-not-reduced-gun-rights/

Obama has expanded, not reduced gun rights

I'm not a racist! I just believe every single half truth uttered about the black guy with the funny name without doing any sort of research myself!

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon May 06, 2013 11:07 am

http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-laws-obama-has-signed-2012-12

The Christian Science Monitor ran a very interesting piece in September comparing Barack Obama and Mitt Romney's gun control records.

In making that comparison, CSM pointed out Obama has only ever signed laws expanding gun owners' rights.

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon May 06, 2013 11:07 am

Irredento wrote:
Tyriece wrote:I love how idiots have turned this into a race issue now... NSG minds can not comprehend anything not related to race,religion or gender..

Yeah, I think I'll stop replying to anyone who calls me a "racist" from now on.

I support the Second Amendment and don't think very much of the Obama administration. I don't want to lynch anyone.

Then guess what chuckles, YOU SHOULD SUPPORT OBAMA.

He's only ever expanded gun rights.

Congratulations on failing at any sort of critical thinking.

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Postby Irredento » Mon May 06, 2013 11:08 am

The Emerald Dawn wrote:http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-laws-obama-has-signed-2012-12

The Christian Science Monitor ran a very interesting piece in September comparing Barack Obama and Mitt Romney's gun control records.

In making that comparison, CSM pointed out Obama has only ever signed laws expanding gun owners' rights.

So far.

The opposition from libertarians and so on comes from the administration's reaction to the recent school shootings and so on. It's what they fear will come next, not what has happened so far, that is causing them to react in this way.

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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Mon May 06, 2013 11:09 am

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Irredento wrote:Yeah, I think I'll stop replying to anyone who calls me a "racist" from now on.

I support the Second Amendment and don't think very much of the Obama administration. I don't want to lynch anyone.

Then guess what chuckles, YOU SHOULD SUPPORT OBAMA.

He's only ever expanded gun rights.

Congratulations on failing at any sort of critical thinking.

You apparently haven't been listening to him for the last four months.

National Park Carry is all well and good. Advocating for an Assault Weapons ban? Rather changes the paradigm on gun rights I'd say. But hey, let's just not pay attention to what politicians say...
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Postby Choronzon » Mon May 06, 2013 11:10 am

Irredento wrote:

So far.

The opposition from libertarians and so on comes from the administration's reaction to the recent school shootings and so on. It's what they fear will come next, not what has happened so far, that is causing them to react in this way.

"Look, I have no reason to think Obama is going to take away my boomsticks. I know that, so far, he has expanded gun rights. BUT I KNOW HES JUST GETTING READY TO TAKE AWAY MY LIBERTIES! I just know. There is just something about him that makes it hard for me to trust him. I can't quite put my finger on it, but something about him is just different...I just look at him and KNOW he's up to no good!

But I'm not a racist and background checks are tyranny!"

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Postby Khadgar » Mon May 06, 2013 11:11 am

Irredento wrote:

So far.

The opposition from libertarians and so on comes from the administration's reaction to the recent school shootings and so on. It's what they fear will come next, not what has happened so far, that is causing them to react in this way.


So you concede it's a baseless and thus completely irrational fear? I love this shit, every four years the NRA convinces their supporters that the EVIL DEMOCRATS are gonna take your guns, so the gun fetishists buy up ammo like mad and stock up on their pissant little rifles with the absurd fantasy that their pea shooters will stand against the might of the US military.

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Postby Tyriece » Mon May 06, 2013 11:11 am

Choronzon wrote:
Tyriece wrote:NSG minds can not comprehend anything not related to race,religion or gender..

Some of us can, but whenever we try and discuss it people like you muddy the waters with ignorance and half truths.


Care to explain? As i recall you are the one that made the comment first about if they were non white they would get arrested.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon May 06, 2013 11:11 am

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Then guess what chuckles, YOU SHOULD SUPPORT OBAMA.

He's only ever expanded gun rights.

Congratulations on failing at any sort of critical thinking.

You apparently haven't been listening to him for the last four months.

National Park Carry is all well and good. Advocating for an Assault Weapons ban? Rather changes the paradigm on gun rights I'd say. But hey, let's just not pay attention to what politicians say...

Yes, how dare he follow public opinion on something this important. How dare he advocate for something that over 90% of his country supports, in increasing background checks.

Well, fuck. I guess we're just going to keep going around this teacup ride.

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Postby Choronzon » Mon May 06, 2013 11:11 am

Khadgar wrote:
Irredento wrote:So far.

The opposition from libertarians and so on comes from the administration's reaction to the recent school shootings and so on. It's what they fear will come next, not what has happened so far, that is causing them to react in this way.


So you concede it's a baseless and thus completely irrational fear? I love this shit, every four years the NRA convinces their supporters that the EVIL DEMOCRATS are gonna take your guns, so the gun fetishists buy up ammo like mad and stock up on their pissant little rifles with the absurd fantasy that their pea shooters will stand against the might of the US military.

HEY MAN IF WE JUST KILL ENOUGH FEDERAL EMPLOYEES BESIDES NO ONE WILL CATCH US AND THE MILITARY WONT GET INVOLVED

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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Mon May 06, 2013 11:12 am

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:You apparently haven't been listening to him for the last four months.

National Park Carry is all well and good. Advocating for an Assault Weapons ban? Rather changes the paradigm on gun rights I'd say. But hey, let's just not pay attention to what politicians say...

Yes, how dare he follow public opinion on something this important. How dare he advocate for something that over 90% of his country supports, in increasing background checks.

Well, fuck. I guess we're just going to keep going around this teacup ride.

Funny. I seem to recall me talking about him commenting on ASSAULT WEAPONS.
Weird that.
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Postby Choronzon » Mon May 06, 2013 11:12 am

Tyriece wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Some of us can, but whenever we try and discuss it people like you muddy the waters with ignorance and half truths.


Care to explain? As i recall you are the one that made the comment first about if they were non white they would get arrested.

Right. I did make that comment. Because I am able to comprehend issues related to race.

You then disputed that claim, meaning you cannot comprehend issues related to race.

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Postby Irredento » Mon May 06, 2013 11:12 am

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:You apparently haven't been listening to him for the last four months.

National Park Carry is all well and good. Advocating for an Assault Weapons ban? Rather changes the paradigm on gun rights I'd say. But hey, let's just not pay attention to what politicians say...

Yes, how dare he follow public opinion on something this important. How dare he advocate for something that over 90% of his country supports, in increasing background checks.

Well, fuck. I guess we're just going to keep going around this teacup ride.

So now you admit that he is pushing for new gun control measures? Also, I wasn't aware that they had held a referendum on the issue?

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Postby Khadgar » Mon May 06, 2013 11:13 am

Choronzon wrote:
Khadgar wrote:
So you concede it's a baseless and thus completely irrational fear? I love this shit, every four years the NRA convinces their supporters that the EVIL DEMOCRATS are gonna take your guns, so the gun fetishists buy up ammo like mad and stock up on their pissant little rifles with the absurd fantasy that their pea shooters will stand against the might of the US military.

HEY MAN IF WE JUST KILL ENOUGH FEDERAL EMPLOYEES BESIDES NO ONE WILL CATCH US AND THE MILITARY WONT GET INVOLVED


The military will totally stay uninvolved in any revolution, because they're Real Americans™ not those fake liberal pussies.

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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Mon May 06, 2013 11:13 am

Choronzon wrote:
Tyriece wrote:
Care to explain? As i recall you are the one that made the comment first about if they were non white they would get arrested.

Right. I did make that comment. Because I am able to comprehend issues related to race.

You then disputed that claim, meaning you cannot comprehend issues related to race.

So there are no black people on the Metro PD who would object to them not arresting Kokesh on the basis of skin color?

Edit: Also, what makes this time different than previous times Kokesh has been arrested?
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Hell, the arresting officers even look white there. So what are you basing your useless opinion off of?
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Postby Irredento » Mon May 06, 2013 11:14 am

Choronzon wrote:
Tyriece wrote:
Care to explain? As i recall you are the one that made the comment first about if they were non white they would get arrested.

Right. I did make that comment. Because I am able to comprehend issues related to race.

You then disputed that claim, meaning you cannot comprehend issues related to race.

All you've done in this thread is harp on about race for no particular reason. No one has said anything "racist" at all.

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Postby Tyriece » Mon May 06, 2013 11:14 am

Choronzon wrote:
Tyriece wrote:
Care to explain? As i recall you are the one that made the comment first about if they were non white they would get arrested.

Right. I did make that comment. Because I am able to comprehend issues related to race.

You then disputed that claim, meaning you cannot comprehend issues related to race.


Yes, and i said people can ONLY comprehend issues related to race on here.
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Postby Choronzon » Mon May 06, 2013 11:14 am

Irredento wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Yes, how dare he follow public opinion on something this important. How dare he advocate for something that over 90% of his country supports, in increasing background checks.

Well, fuck. I guess we're just going to keep going around this teacup ride.

So now you admit that he is pushing for new gun control measures? Also, I wasn't aware that they had held a referendum on the issue?

Well Jr, sometimes, when a group of people care about an issue very much, they'll conduct something we call a "poll."

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Postby Irredento » Mon May 06, 2013 11:14 am

Choronzon wrote:
Irredento wrote:So now you admit that he is pushing for new gun control measures? Also, I wasn't aware that they had held a referendum on the issue?

Well Jr, sometimes, when a group of people care about an issue very much, they'll conduct something we call a "poll."

A "poll" is not a "referendum".

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Postby Choronzon » Mon May 06, 2013 11:17 am

Irredento wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Well Jr, sometimes, when a group of people care about an issue very much, they'll conduct something we call a "poll."

A "poll" is not a "referendum".

TED said that such measures had a wide degree of support. You asked if there was a referendum, as if that was the only way to gauge public support. There has not been, but you can learn how the public feels from a poll. I was trying to point this out to you, since you apparently were unaware.

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