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by New England and The Maritimes » Mon May 06, 2013 10:41 am
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by Samozaryadnyastan » Mon May 06, 2013 10:41 am
Malgrave wrote:You are secretly Vladimir Putin using this forum to promote Russian weapons and tracking down and killing those who oppose you.

by The Emerald Dawn » Mon May 06, 2013 10:42 am

by Choronzon » Mon May 06, 2013 10:43 am
Irredento wrote:Choronzon wrote:So, tell me, when people held up pictures of Obama's face imposed over a witch doctor, what policy of his were they criticizing exactly? And what is the political symbolism behind the witch doctor?
Because obviously if KKK type extremists dislike Obama, all of his opponents must be like that!
I dislike the man because he's a smirking POS who jokes about drone strikes on women and children
while attempting to disarm his own people.
I never realised this made me a racist until now. Thanks for enlightening me,
comrade.

by Sociobiology » Mon May 06, 2013 10:45 am

by The Emerald Dawn » Mon May 06, 2013 10:46 am

by Sociobiology » Mon May 06, 2013 10:47 am

by Xsyne » Mon May 06, 2013 10:48 am
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Xsyne wrote:I wonder if violating D.C.'s laws against open-carry is a felony.
http://dcguncase.com/blog/dc-gun-laws/§ 7-2507.06. Penalties
Any person convicted of a violation of any provision of this unit shall be fined not more than $ 1,000 or imprisoned for not more than 1 year, or both; except that:
(1) A person who knowingly or intentionally sells, transfers, or distributes a firearm, destructive device, or ammunition to a person under 18 years of age shall be fined not more than $ 10,000 or imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both.
(2) (A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B) of this paragraph, any person who is convicted a second time for possessing an unregistered firearm shall be fined not more than $ 5,000 or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
(B) A person who in the person’s dwelling place, place of business, or on other land possessed by the person, possesses a pistol, or firearm that could otherwise be registered, shall be fined not more than $ 1,000 or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.
(3) A person convicted of knowingly possessing restricted pistol bullets in violation of § 7-2506.01(3) may be sentenced to imprisonment for a term not to exceed 10 years and shall be sentenced to imprisonment for a mandatory-minimum term of not less than 1 year and shall not be released from prison or granted probation or suspension of sentence prior to serving the mandatory-minimum sentence, and, in addition, may be fined an amount not to exceed $ 10,000.
§ 22-4504. Carrying concealed weapons; possession of weapons during commission of crime of violence; penalty
(a) No person shall carry within the District of Columbia either openly or concealed on or about their person, a pistol, without a license issued pursuant to District of Columbia law, or any deadly or dangerous weapon capable of being so concealed. Whoever violates this section shall be punished as provided in § 22-4515, except that:
(1) A person who violates this section by carrying a pistol, without a license issued pursuant to District of Columbia law, or any deadly or dangerous weapon, in a place other than the person’s dwelling place, place of business, or on other land possessed by the person, shall be fined not more than $ 5,000 or imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both; or
(2) If the violation of this section occurs after a person has been convicted in the District of Columbia of a violation of this section or of a felony, either in the District of Columbia or another jurisdiction, the person shall be fined not more than $ 10,000 or imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both.
(b) No person shall within the District of Columbia possess a pistol, machine gun, shotgun, rifle, or any other firearm or imitation firearm while committing a crime of violence or dangerous crime as defined in § 22-4501. Upon conviction of a violation of this subsection, the person may be sentenced to imprisonment for a term not to exceed 15 years and shall be sentenced to imprisonment for a mandatory-minimum term of not less than 5 years and shall not be released on parole, or granted probation or suspension of sentence, prior to serving the mandatory-minimum sentence.
Chernoslavia wrote:Free Soviets wrote:according to both the law library of congress and wikipedia, both automatics and semi-autos that can be easily converted are outright banned in norway.
Source?

by The Emerald Dawn » Mon May 06, 2013 10:49 am
Xsyne wrote:
I think the relevant section is actually the next one.§ 22-4504. Carrying concealed weapons; possession of weapons during commission of crime of violence; penalty
(a) No person shall carry within the District of Columbia either openly or concealed on or about their person, a pistol, without a license issued pursuant to District of Columbia law, or any deadly or dangerous weapon capable of being so concealed. Whoever violates this section shall be punished as provided in § 22-4515, except that:
(1) A person who violates this section by carrying a pistol, without a license issued pursuant to District of Columbia law, or any deadly or dangerous weapon, in a place other than the person’s dwelling place, place of business, or on other land possessed by the person, shall be fined not more than $ 5,000 or imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both; or
(2) If the violation of this section occurs after a person has been convicted in the District of Columbia of a violation of this section or of a felony, either in the District of Columbia or another jurisdiction, the person shall be fined not more than $ 10,000 or imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both.
(b) No person shall within the District of Columbia possess a pistol, machine gun, shotgun, rifle, or any other firearm or imitation firearm while committing a crime of violence or dangerous crime as defined in § 22-4501. Upon conviction of a violation of this subsection, the person may be sentenced to imprisonment for a term not to exceed 15 years and shall be sentenced to imprisonment for a mandatory-minimum term of not less than 5 years and shall not be released on parole, or granted probation or suspension of sentence, prior to serving the mandatory-minimum sentence.
Doesn't seem to be a felony, but if the second use of "deadly or dangerous weapon" not being qualified with "capable of being so concealed" is meaningful, then the penalty is a fine of up to $5000, imprisonment of up to 5 years, or both.


by Choronzon » Mon May 06, 2013 10:50 am
Irredento wrote:Do explain how respect for the Second Amendment is racist.
Hey, I call 'em like I see 'em. A spade is a spade and a red is a red.
And I am a racist apparently.

by Xsyne » Mon May 06, 2013 10:50 am
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Xsyne wrote:I think the relevant section is actually the next one.
Doesn't seem to be a felony, but if the second use of "deadly or dangerous weapon" not being qualified with "capable of being so concealed" is meaningful, then the penalty is a fine of up to $5000, imprisonment of up to 5 years, or both.
I don't do law reading. All I know is Ctrl+F didn't show the word "Felony".
Chernoslavia wrote:Free Soviets wrote:according to both the law library of congress and wikipedia, both automatics and semi-autos that can be easily converted are outright banned in norway.
Source?

by The Emerald Dawn » Mon May 06, 2013 10:51 am

by New England and The Maritimes » Mon May 06, 2013 10:52 am
Irredento wrote:Choronzon wrote:Racist, paranoid talking points.
Do explain how respect for the Second Amendment is racist.Choronzon wrote:I like that you throw that on there at the end in a manner which suggests I ought to take offense.
Hey, I call 'em like I see 'em. A spade is a spade and a red is a red. And I am a racist apparently.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by Choronzon » Mon May 06, 2013 10:54 am
New England and The Maritimes wrote:Irredento wrote:Do explain how respect for the Second Amendment is racist.
Hey, I call 'em like I see 'em. A spade is a spade and a red is a red. And I am a racist apparently.
The gun control efforts if the Obama administration are literally identical to those proposed by the fucking NRA and republicans have proposed in the past. The opposition is because Barack Obama supports it now. Why? Hmm, I wonder... Also why the theories that he is from Kenya? Or that he is "un American"? A Muslim? A terror hiding in your closet, waiting to sap your precious freedom and bodily fluids?

by Occupied Deutschland » Mon May 06, 2013 10:56 am
New England and The Maritimes wrote:Irredento wrote:Do explain how respect for the Second Amendment is racist.
Hey, I call 'em like I see 'em. A spade is a spade and a red is a red. And I am a racist apparently.
The gun control efforts if the Obama administration are literally identical to those proposed by the fucking NRA and republicans have proposed in the past. The opposition is because Barack Obama supports it now. Why? Hmm, I wonder... Also why the theories that he is from Kenya? Or that he is "un American"? A Muslim? A terror hiding in your closet, waiting to sap your precious freedom and bodily fluids?

by Xsyne » Mon May 06, 2013 10:57 am
Choronzon wrote:New England and The Maritimes wrote:The gun control efforts if the Obama administration are literally identical to those proposed by the fucking NRA and republicans have proposed in the past. The opposition is because Barack Obama supports it now. Why? Hmm, I wonder... Also why the theories that he is from Kenya? Or that he is "un American"? A Muslim? A terror hiding in your closet, waiting to sap your precious freedom and bodily fluids?
I'm not a racist! I just think the illegal Kenyan with the funny name who probably worships a different god (read: the exact same god but with a different name) is trying to take away my rights so he canhave my white womenoppress me, so I need to stockpile guns and ammo in preparation for therace warinevitable revolution launched tomake the White House white againrestore our liberty!
Chernoslavia wrote:Free Soviets wrote:according to both the law library of congress and wikipedia, both automatics and semi-autos that can be easily converted are outright banned in norway.
Source?

by Choronzon » Mon May 06, 2013 10:57 am
Xsyne wrote:Choronzon wrote:I'm not a racist! I just think the illegal Kenyan with the funny name who probably worships a different god (read: the exact same god but with a different name) is trying to take away my rights so he canhave my white womenoppress me, so I need to stockpile guns and ammo in preparation for therace warinevitable revolution launched tomake the White House white againrestore our liberty!
Not even a different name. Same name, different language.

by Irredento » Mon May 06, 2013 10:59 am
Choronzon wrote:Irredento wrote:Do explain how respect for the Second Amendment is racist.
Thats not whats racist.
Thinking that the black guy is going to take away your liberties, despite having done very little (until recently) to address the gun violence epidemic in this country is what makes your shrieking about your boomsticks nothing but racist talking points.
Choronzon wrote:I'll bet you were one of those people stockpiling guns and ammo the day after the 2008 election.
Choronzon wrote:Irredento wrote:Hey, I call 'em like I see 'em. A spade is a spade and a red is a red.
I'm going to ignore the fact that nothing I've said is particularly socialist (nothing that would be considered socialist among normal people anyway- I'm well aware that in the mind of conservatives anything they disagree with is commie) and just say that I am, in fact, redder than the Soviet flag.

by New England and The Maritimes » Mon May 06, 2013 11:00 am
Choronzon wrote:I'm not a racist! I just think the illegal Kenyan with the funny name who probably worships a different god (read: the exact same god but with a different name) is trying to take away my rights so he canNew England and The Maritimes wrote:The gun control efforts if the Obama administration are literally identical to those proposed by the fucking NRA and republicans have proposed in the past. The opposition is because Barack Obama supports it now. Why? Hmm, I wonder... Also why the theories that he is from Kenya? Or that he is "un American"? A Muslim? A terror hiding in your closet, waiting to sap your precious freedom and bodily fluids?have my white womenoppress me, so I need to stockpile guns and ammo in preparation for therace warinevitable revolution launched tomake the White House white againrestore our liberty!
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by Sociobiology » Mon May 06, 2013 11:01 am
Ifreann wrote:The Emerald Dawn wrote:...Black Irish does kind of mean something other than the color of their skin. We all know this right? We're all just playing with the term, yes?
Yes, but now you've ruined it.Sociobiology wrote:
because a black person and an Irish person would never have sex?
A ginger black might ensue, and thus bring about the end of days.


by Samuraikoku » Mon May 06, 2013 11:01 am
Irredento wrote:They don't think he wants to take away their civil liberties. They know. If you want to argue that some elements in the Tea Party have been "racist", so be it, but people like Adam Kokesh are totally justified in their recent opposition to the administration's attempts at instituting more oppressive gun control laws.
Samuraikoku wrote:The only thing missing from the OP was a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! warcry.

by The Emerald Dawn » Mon May 06, 2013 11:02 am
New England and The Maritimes wrote:Choronzon wrote:I'm not a racist! I just think the illegal Kenyan with the funny name who probably worships a different god (read: the exact same god but with a different name) is trying to take away my rights so he canhave my white womenoppress me, so I need to stockpile guns and ammo in preparation for therace warinevitable revolution launched tomake the White House white againrestore our liberty!
I'm a white person and I am sick of white people. Racism exists. Stop acting so fucking defensive and start growing as a person, Jesus Christ this persecution complex just drives home the punt and makes you seem even more racist and/or dumb.
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