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Teccor
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A Challenge for Liberals

Postby Teccor » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:46 pm

This thread was previously locked due to flaming/trolling by the OP, so I decided to repost it. Minus the trolling, of course.

==== NOTES ====

1) Please don't immediately squeal "source pl0x!" Because the counterpart thread was never asked for sources, to my knowledge.
2) No flaming by EITHER SIDE.
3) I'll edit this post to remove illegitimate questions as I find them. If you find a question illegitimate, don't answer it.
4) If you answer a question, please answer at least three. Not required, but please do.
5) I'm SERIOUS about flamers/trolls for either side. I'll call in t3h m0d squawd if it gets out of hand.
6) I will act as moderator for my own thread, as well as the actual mods. But with me, you get only one warning.
==== END NOTES ====


1. Why are Liberals so obsessed with silencing Conservative dissent?

2. What is it with Liberals and the "Fairness Doctrine"?

3. Why are Liberals so obsessed with getting rid of Capitalism?

4. Why do Liberals say they are for tolerance, and yet ignore discrimination against Christians and Whites?

5. What is your opinion on the charges of corruption and thuggery against ACORN and SEIU?

6. Why is Charlie Rangel not investigating ACORN?

7. What do Liberals hate so much about FOX News, Glenn Beck, and Rush Limbaugh? Why?

8. Why are Liberals more concerned about so-called "Christian extremists" then Radical Islamists?

9. What do Liberals love so much about Marxism, Atheism, and Darwinism? Why?

10. What do you say about Conservatives' accusations that things like the environment, health care, "the dangers of Capitalism, and others is just an excuse for the Government to gain dictatorial powers?

11. why are Liberals so against Israel when it's actually fighting for its survival against sadistic foes who want to "Wipe Israel from the face of the map"?

12. Explain in detail the difference between Anti-Zionism and Antisemitism.

13. What are your thoughts on Conservatives' accusations of the Democratic Party's Leadership of being elitist?

14. If Tea Party, Town Hall, and 9/12er protesters are "unruly mobs", then why have some of Glenn Beck's sponsors been threatened Brownshirt style and a BLACK Town Hall Protester was attacked by thugs wearing SEIU shirts when he was passing out American Flags, whom was called the N-word? Explain.

15. Why are Liberals so against Individualism and the things that have made this country great?

16. Is there a double standard when Blacks are discriminated against, the media is all over it, and when WHITES are discriminated against? Is this "Reverse Racism"?

17. Why did the Fringe Media scream when a notorious Kansas Abortion doctor was murdered, while it barely made a peep when a prominent Pro-Life activist was killed by a "Pro-Choice" activist?

18. If Evolutionists think Creationists and Intelligent Design believers are un-scientific idiots, then why are they discriminated against, as shown in Ben Stein's documentary "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed"?

19. Why when "Expelled" was released, Liberals, Atheists, and Darwinists called it a Propaganda Flick, yet they enjoy watching Al Gore's notorious Shlockumentary "An Inconvenient Truth", and all of Michael Moore's so-called "documentaries", which sound pretty much like propaganda to me, explain?

20. And now, for the most crucial question and the one I want to know the answer to the most: Why are Liberals, and thugs in groups like CAIR, the ACLU, and others trying to get rid of all traces that America was founded on Judeo-Christian Values???

21. Why is Obama not doing a thing about North Korea and Iran, and took a long time to get a decision made on doing something when a top general told him to send more troops to Afghanistan, and yet at the same time, is trying to rush to get health care, and all this environmental crap in?

22. Why did Obama not recognize the pro-democracy movement in Iran while the rest of the world was appalled by the images of a young woman getting beaten to death for speaking her mind?

23. Why are Liberals so not for America drilling offshore or in ANWR, or for the US building more nuclear plants, or construct or maintain more dams, yet allow FOREIGN NATIONS to drill offshore and to build nuclear plants of their own?

24. Does the Liberal Elite really think all Whites, Conservatives, and Christians are a bunch of stupid racist Rednecks?
Last edited by Teccor on Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby Takaram » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:48 pm

I'm really failing to see much of a difference between this one and the old thread.
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Postby Teccor » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:49 pm

Takaram wrote:I'm really failing to see much of a deference difference between this one and the old thread.

Fixed. :)

This one has no out of context trolling/flaming. ...Yet.
Last edited by Teccor on Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"The modern definition of "racist" is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal leftist." -Peter Brimelow
Important People
Minister of Commerce: Alexander Ferinzei
Minister of International Affairs: Mayumi Thyme
Minister of Internal Affairs: Desmond Vito
Minister of Defence: Martin Langfield
Wars
Shataristani War (Treaty Reached)
WarLev
Peacetime
[Arms Build-up]
Small-Scale Conflict
Full-Scale War
You... you snowman! ~ New Kereptica, on Racial Slurs
I find flipping people off to work quite well ~ Buffet and Colbert, on Dating
Zetion wrote:Fuck PETA, my meat tastes better knwoing they dont want me to eat it.
Marquesan wrote:Furthermore, a news flash. This just in from the department of pancakes: F*ck waffles.

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Postby Natapoc » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:50 pm

I'll take the time to answer some of them if I get a statement from a mod that it won't be locked for being a repeat or troll or whatever. Last time I wasted 7 minutes trying to reply only to find it locked.
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Postby Barringtonia » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:51 pm

Natapoc wrote:I'll take the time to answer some of them if I get a statement from a mod that it won't be locked for being a repeat or troll or whatever. Last time I wasted 7 minutes trying to reply only to find it locked.


Totally, I'd actually answered them all and 'thread locked', spoilsports!
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Postby SaintB » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:51 pm

Teccor, the questions themselves are the trolling. They aren't about politics or personal beliefs they are blanket statements worded in ways that are offensive and demeaning, they also already make assumptions about the answers.
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Postby Takaram » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:52 pm

Teccor wrote:
Takaram wrote:I'm really failing to see much of a deference difference between this one and the old thread.

Fixed. :)

This one has no out of context trolling/flaming. ...Yet.


Thanks, my mind was elsewhere.

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Postby Nadkor » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:52 pm

My response will be exactly the same as the old thread:
I'll answer in five minutes, just gotta plug into the Liberal hive mind and download the approved responses. As you'll no doubt be aware, we're incapable of forming independent thought and opinion.


If you're referring to US liberals then, no, most liberals are not for "SOCIALISM!!". Far from it. As a prime example, the Democratic Party wouldn't even be described as centre-left by many in other parts of the world, let alone socialist.


and

Tell me something, do you really have such a problem distinguishing between groups and individuals that you aren't mentally capable of realising that the actions of one person who may or may not be a member of a group that exists only in your mind is most certainly not representative of other people who may or not be members of a group that exists only in your mind?

Because if you don't I'd be very worried, if I were you, that it would seem so easy to jump to such a conclusion.


Why? Because I think I made myself clear.
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Postby Teccor » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:52 pm

SaintB wrote:Teccor, the questions themselves are the trolling. They aren't about politics or personal beliefs they are blanket statements worded in ways that are offensive and demeaning, they also already make assumptions about the answers.


I personally asked two different moderators, along with filing a "Getting Help" thing.

They all said it was the OP's responses and non-question remarks that were flaming/trolling.
"The modern definition of "racist" is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal leftist." -Peter Brimelow
Important People
Minister of Commerce: Alexander Ferinzei
Minister of International Affairs: Mayumi Thyme
Minister of Internal Affairs: Desmond Vito
Minister of Defence: Martin Langfield
Wars
Shataristani War (Treaty Reached)
WarLev
Peacetime
[Arms Build-up]
Small-Scale Conflict
Full-Scale War
You... you snowman! ~ New Kereptica, on Racial Slurs
I find flipping people off to work quite well ~ Buffet and Colbert, on Dating
Zetion wrote:Fuck PETA, my meat tastes better knwoing they dont want me to eat it.
Marquesan wrote:Furthermore, a news flash. This just in from the department of pancakes: F*ck waffles.

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Postby Katganistan » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:53 pm

The questions pretty much are framed in the most insulting way possible, and sorry: a General thread is not moderated or controlled by any poster. To allow that in a discussion is to silence the opposing viewpoints.

I'm closing this thread to allow you the time to think of a way in which to write each question so that they are not accusatory and insulting. You might want to take a day or two in order to frame them neutrally.


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