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Survey says: Free Market flawed!

Postby Allrule » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:48 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8347409.stm
Free market flawed, says survey
By James Robbins
Diplomatic correspondent, BBC News

The Berlin Wall comes down, 10 Nov 1989
The fall of the wall looked like a crushing victory for capitalism

Twenty years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, a new BBC poll has found widespread dissatisfaction with free-market capitalism.

In the global poll for the BBC World Service, only 11% of those questioned across 27 countries said that it was working well.

Most thought regulation and reform of the capitalist system were necessary.

There were also sharp divisions around the world on whether the end of the Soviet Union was a good thing.

Economic regulation

In 1989, as the Berlin Wall fell, it was a victory for ordinary people across Eastern and Central Europe.

It also looked at the time like a crushing victory for free-market capitalism.

Twenty years on, this new global poll suggests confidence in free markets has taken heavy blows from the past 12 months of financial and economic crisis.

More than 29,000 people in 27 countries were questioned. In only two countries, the United States and Pakistan, did more than one in five people feel that capitalism works well as it stands.

Almost a quarter - 23% of those who responded - feel it is fatally flawed. That is the view of 43% in France, 38% in Mexico and 35% in Brazil.

And there is very strong support around the world for governments to distribute wealth more evenly. That is backed by majorities in 22 of the 27 countries.

If there is one issue where a global consensus seems to emerge from the survey it is this: there are majorities almost everywhere wanting government to be more active in regulating business.

It is only in Turkey that a majority want less government regulation.

Opinion about the disintegration of the Soviet Union is sharply divided.

Europeans overwhelmingly say it was a good thing: 79% in Germany, 76% in Britain and 74% in France feel that way.

But outside the developed West it is a different picture. Almost seven in 10 Egyptians say the end of the Soviet Union was a bad thing and views are sharply divided in India, Kenya and Indonesia.

Not so surprised, due to the global financial crisis...
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Postby Robarya » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:55 pm

Of course the current system will be criticized if there has been a crisis, but that doesn't necessarily mean the alternative is any better.

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Postby SaintB » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:57 pm

Everything is flawed [/thread]
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Postby Hydesland » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:01 pm

The majority of people probably don't fully comprehend the nuances of what a free market actually entails.... and we're in the middle of a crisis....

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Postby Barringtonia » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:37 pm

It is flawed.

I can't remember the full details but basically free market capitalism either needs innovation and/or efficiency gains to maintain growth and we run out of one or the other at some point.
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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:02 pm

The 20 years later thread is the same topic. Not trying to be a downer, but I thought it should be posted.

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Postby The Isle of Biscay » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:48 pm

Pure Capitalism will only favor the Rich and those lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. Pure Communism will favor the general population the same, and will hinder the hardest workers, or those with the best ideas, and can create a backwater society. This is why nearly all economies are mixed. Some countries have better mixes than others... Some would say that (given the levels of poverty and inequality) America needs more regulation. More regulated economies are less susceptible to an economic crisis that can only be caused by a free market.

I personally believe a country should be judged by its poorest citizens, rather than its richest, being that the rich are such are small minority. I am not against capitalism and believe that those that work hard, deserve to be rewarded, but I also believe that every person should have the opportunity to reach their potential. And unless you have equal access (access implies affordability in this case) to good education, good health service, access to the internet/library and a personal computer, and satisfactory transportation, you are disadvantaged. If your parents/guardians are poor, then you are not likely to have the same level of access as someone who has rich parents. This is unfair to the child of the poor parents. Unless education, healthcare, transportation, access to a computer and the internet, etc is easily affordable to anyone, you are oppressing the poor.

Corporations are only required to serve the interests of the shareholders, and do not need to contribute, fairly to society as a whole. Unless this changes, a free market setup will continue to serve the interests of shareholders at the expense of society as a whole. The other alternative is to increase taxes to ensure that the government can afford to provide the equal access opportunities to all in society.

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Postby Vittos Ordination » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:55 am

Barringtonia wrote:It is flawed.

I can't remember the full details but basically free market capitalism either needs innovation and/or efficiency gains to maintain growth and we run out of one or the other at some point.


Perfect example of why this poll yielded the results it did.

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Postby West Failure » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:02 am

It is only 20 years, it might take longer than that...
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Postby Dododecapod » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:04 am

Laissez-Faire, free market models invariably fail. What is needed is appropriate regulation and control - Let the rich be rich, but not at everyone else's expense.
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Postby South Lorenya » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:29 am

Free market is flawed, but so is doing this poll during Dubya's Depression. If they made this poll two years ago (when the bubble hadn't burst, the dow jones was 13,000+, and people were too busy making excuses not to hunt with Dick Cheney to complain), free market would have been much more supported.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:33 am

Survey Says: Gay marriage should not be made legal.

I wouldn't put to much stock in what people think especially the common man on such matters that require some knowledge on the subject at hand.
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Postby German Capitalists » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:11 pm

When people don't get a perfect reality, they whine and want "reform". That is the problem with Democracies and Republics. If the Soviet Union was the leading power and it caused a Global Economic Crisis, everyone would want to become Capitalist.
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