Your Favorite Russian Leader?

[Baiynistan]

If Trotsky counts, then Trotsky. If not, Gorbachev.

Marshal Zhukov could perhaps count, considering it was his muscle and reputation that allowed Kruschev to ensure his victory in succeeding Stalin.

Then, I suppose, any anarchist and Leftist leaders of the opposition to the Bolsheviks.

[Arglorand]

Then, I suppose, any anarchist and Leftist leaders of the opposition to the Bolsheviks.

just making a note here that the Free Territory was Ukrainian.

[Pasasonia]

Definitely Vladimir Ulyanov.

[Sahrani DR]

Lenin, without doubt.

[Yorkopolis]

If Trotsky counts, then Trotsky. If not, Gorbachev.

Marshal Zhukov could perhaps count, considering it was his muscle and reputation that allowed Kruschev to ensure his victory in succeeding Stalin.

Then, I suppose, any anarchist and Leftist leaders of the opposition to the Bolsheviks.

I'd say the leader of the Socialist Revolutionaries was a nice guy. Viktor Chernov, if I remember correctly.

[Arglorand]

If Trotsky counts, then Trotsky. If not, Gorbachev.

Marshal Zhukov could perhaps count, considering it was his muscle and reputation that allowed Kruschev to ensure his victory in succeeding Stalin.

Then, I suppose, any anarchist and Leftist leaders of the opposition to the Bolsheviks.

I'd say the leader of the Socialist Revolutionaries was a nice guy. Viktor Chernov, if I remember correctly.

Aye, I posted him in the last page.

The SRs were pretty damn awesome at the time.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

If Trotsky counts, then Trotsky. If not, Gorbachev.

Marshal Zhukov could perhaps count, considering it was his muscle and reputation that allowed Kruschev to ensure his victory in succeeding Stalin.

Then, I suppose, any anarchist and Leftist leaders of the opposition to the Bolsheviks.

Bah, Zhukov wouldn't stand a chance against Kutusov. And both of them together couldn't have put a scratch on Suvorov.

One of the few generals who a) was actually liked by his men, b) cared for his men in return, c) never lost a battle.

He was also one of the VERY few men of his age who thought that the average soldier should have some level of knowledge about overall strategy and tactics. When he published his 'Art of Victory' (also known as the 'Science of Victory,' and several variants on that theme,) he made sure it was in language that a common soldier could understand. Apparently this sort of thing has become popular with modern businesses, so now they're giving lectures on Suvorov at business meetings

[Baiynistan]

I'd say the leader of the Socialist Revolutionaries was a nice guy. Viktor Chernov, if I remember correctly.

Aye, I posted him in the last page.

The SRs were pretty damn awesome at the time.

Cool. I'll have to have a look into them. Everything around the period fascinates me.

Bah, Zhukov wouldn't stand a chance against Kutusov. And both of them together couldn't have put a scratch on Suvorov.

One of the few generals who a) was actually liked by his men, b) cared for his men in return, c) never lost a battle.

He was also one of the VERY few men of his age who thought that the average soldier should have some level of knowledge about overall strategy and tactics. When he published his 'Art of Victory' (also known as the 'Science of Victory,' and several variants on that theme,) he made sure it was in language that a common soldier could understand. Apparently this sort of thing has become popular with modern businesses, so now they're giving lectures on Suvorov at business meetings

Missed this. Sounds like a very interesting feller though. Another I shall have to read up on.

[Densaner]

All of them seem pretty awful. I have a grudging admiration for Stalin. Yes he was a bloody murderer. But I doubt any other Soviet politician of the time could have kept the shown on the road after 1941.

[Scholencia]

Because it is large. You really can not ignore it how much you try it.

If all rulers sucked, how'd Russia get so big? Did the Mongols just come up and say, "yo Russia, please take our land, we're giving it away"?

They already settled the vaste area when the Mongols attacked so it was not hard for them to defend it (not also against Mongols but others like Napoleon). if they were on a small area like like the size of the Netherlands it would be a different story.

Not all rulers of the Russian Federation were sucked, I never said that. I think Yeltsin was might a good leader.

[The Republic of Devious People]

Lenoid Brezhnev

[GraySoap]

Hitler was my favorite leader of Russia. Too bad about that Рейхскомиссариат Московия.

[Kemalist]

Lenin and Stalin.

[Nomagi]

Catherine the Great

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

Limited to Ivan III and after, or can we go before?

[Wamitoria]

Lenin.

Reason 1. He started the USSR and led a fantastic revolution that had plenty of potential.

Reason 2. He won Epic Rap Battles of History, hands down.

Stalin was a horrible leader, but he was hot as fuck at 23, and he did some good revolutionary action in Georgia during the time of pre-Russian Revolution, but that's Georgia and not Russia.

Gorbachev won the rap battle as soon as he entered the room

Well, he is the host with the most glasnost.

[Shofercia]

If all rulers sucked, how'd Russia get so big? Did the Mongols just come up and say, "yo Russia, please take our land, we're giving it away"?

They already settled the vaste area when the Mongols attacked so it was not hard for them to defend it (not also against Mongols but others like Napoleon). if they were on a small area like like the size of the Netherlands it would be a different story.

Not all rulers of the Russian Federation were sucked, I never said that. I think Yeltsin was might a good leader.

Yeltsin? Good leader?! There isn't a facepalm large enough to refute that assessment. *whalepalms*

[Shofercia]

Limited to Ivan III and after, or can we go before?

You can go before. It says Russian Leader, not Russia Csar, or Russian Emperor.

[Scholencia]

Yeltsin? Good leader?! There isn't a facepalm large enough to refute that assessment. *whalepalms*

Well, he brought democracy in Russia, did not he?

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

Vladimir II Monomakh

[Wamitoria]

Yeltsin? Good leader?! There isn't a facepalm large enough to refute that assessment. *whalepalms*

Well, he brought democracy in Russia, did not he?

No.

Not at all, actually. It could be argued that Gorbachev was attempting to bring democracy to Russia, and it could be argued that Putin won his elections democratically, but Yeltsin was essentially the oligarch-in-chief who presided over the collapse of Russian society during the 1990s. He didn't even try to stop it. He just got drunk and made an ass of himself.

[Scholencia]

Well, he brought democracy in Russia, did not he?

No.

Not at all, actually. It could be argued that Gorbachev was attempting to bring democracy to Russia, and it could be argued that Putin won his elections democratically, but Yeltsin was essentially the oligarch-in-chief who presided over the collapse of Russian society during the 1990s. He didn't even try to stop it. He just got drunk and made an ass of himself.

I think you are wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_go ... ndum,_1993

The majority loved him. As a result of that the old commies locked themself in a building and did not want to go out.

[The Nuclear Fist]

As far as military leaders go, Vassily Chuikov is an interesting one.

[Shofercia]

Yeltsin? Good leader?! There isn't a facepalm large enough to refute that assessment. *whalepalms*

Well, he brought democracy in Russia, did not he?

No. Firing tanks at Parliament and rigging the elections in favor of his own persona, is not the same as bringing democracy to a country.

[Shofercia]

No.

Not at all, actually. It could be argued that Gorbachev was attempting to bring democracy to Russia, and it could be argued that Putin won his elections democratically, but Yeltsin was essentially the oligarch-in-chief who presided over the collapse of Russian society during the 1990s. He didn't even try to stop it. He just got drunk and made an ass of himself.

I think you are wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_go ... ndum,_1993

The majority loved him. As a result of that the old commies locked themself in a building and did not want to go out.

That was before his policies started affecting us. Yeltsin became president in mid-1991, by couping the despised Gorbachev. The vote came in mid-1993, only two years into Yeltsin being in power. Why don't you look at Yeltsin's approval ratings later on. At one point, he had a 98% disapproval rating.