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Postby Pope Joan » Fri May 03, 2013 2:24 am

Beldonia wrote:Peter the Great. He was great!


He's a terrific cricket player anyway.

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Postby Yellow Zone 20-A » Fri May 03, 2013 2:30 am

Podgorny?
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Postby CTALNH » Fri May 03, 2013 2:32 am

Lenin then Stalin.....


Also Ivan the terrible.
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Postby Toiracsi Saduj » Fri May 03, 2013 2:32 am

My favorite Russian leader?
Why, this loveable old softy, of course!


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Postby Romberg » Fri May 03, 2013 2:35 am

... the dog?
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Postby New Freedomstan » Fri May 03, 2013 2:37 am

Romberg wrote:... the dog?

The real power in russia. The dog behind the man behind the man.

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Rozan
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Postby Rozan » Fri May 03, 2013 2:39 am

Catherine the great
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Fri May 03, 2013 2:39 am

New Freedomstan wrote:
Romberg wrote:... the dog?

The real power in russia. The dog behind the man behind the man.


Hmm, that dog looks yummy.

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Postby Shofercia » Fri May 03, 2013 2:42 am

Mike the Progressive wrote:
New Freedomstan wrote:The real power in russia. The dog behind the man behind the man.


Hmm, that dog looks yummy.


Maybe that's why NK decided to play with nuksies? They wanted to get the dog behind the man, behind the man, behind the power, behind the country, behind the curtain, behind the... :P
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Postby Pope Joan » Fri May 03, 2013 2:46 am

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Postby Yorkopolis » Fri May 03, 2013 2:47 am

Vetalia wrote:Nikita Khrushchev, for his efforts to remedy the purges, gulags and tyranny of the Stalin era, tentative reforms in the arts and culture, and for presiding over one of the longest-lasting and most genuine periods of prosperity in modern Russian history. While he certainly had plenty of faults and misguided policies, the 1950's in the USSR were a genuinely prosperous time that massively increased the standard of living for the bulk of the population, advanced Soviet science to heights rivaling or even surpassing those of the west and which created substantial optimism for the future.

Khruschev was a dick in foreign policy though, a massive one.

I don't really have any favourite Russian leaders, I don't know enough of them. :P
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Postby The Democratic Republic of Davida » Fri May 03, 2013 2:51 am

Catherine the Great? Don't know all that much about her really. Seems like she did pretty well.

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Postby Pope Joan » Fri May 03, 2013 2:53 am

The Democratic Republic of Davida wrote:Catherine the Great? Don't know all that much about her really. Seems like she did pretty well.


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Postby Risottia » Fri May 03, 2013 6:11 am

Shofercia wrote:
Risottia wrote:Dunno... not getting owned by a rebellion is the mark of a great politician, though.


Yup but Russia needed peace immediately. Brest-Litovsk was the better one could get realistically in a reasonably short time.


Also a healthy dose of realism is needed. As usual, the problem is striking a working balance.


True, but War Communism should've ended months earlier. It was a temporary shock-therapy solution. Lenin overextended it.

In terms of peace, I would've just withdrawn my armies a bit back, and created a new trench system. WWI was trench warfare, where the offensives and counteroffensives were brutal. Setting up defensive positions and constantly retreating, even in 1917, would've cost Germany a lot of lives, and they still had France and GB to deal with.

While, I agree about the dose of realism, we both know that there was more to it than that. Lenin didn't want any countries to have borders, that's part of why he agreed to Brest-Litovsk, thinking that USSR will get all of it back, so I wouldn't say that Lenin's vision was realistic.


Well, 30 years later... ;)
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Fri May 03, 2013 6:12 am

If we're counting Soviet leaders, I would suppose my favourite is Nikita Khrushchev.
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Postby Khodoristan » Fri May 03, 2013 6:14 am

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Postby West Macedonia » Fri May 03, 2013 6:14 am

I don't have favorite russian leader
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Postby Tovarishchestvo » Fri May 03, 2013 6:24 am

Comrade Lenin, no doubt.
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Postby Petrovsegratsk » Fri May 03, 2013 6:46 am

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Postby Romberg » Fri May 03, 2013 7:11 am

Khodoristan wrote:Eduard Khil.


Trololo?

Seriously though, I gotta agree with most of you in that when it comes to Soviet leaders, Khrushchev seemed the shiniest of the turds. Arguably Lenin would be second IMO. Regardless of his rapprochement with the West, Gorbachev was partially responsible for screwing up with Russia's economy after all.
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Postby Libertarian California » Fri May 03, 2013 7:14 am

Gorbachev! He's the host with the most Glasnost. Some assholes made a mess, and the war got cold. He shook hands with both Ronalds: Reagan and McDonald's, no doubt! If your name ends with "in", it's time to get out!
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Postby Libertarian California » Fri May 03, 2013 7:17 am

The Marxist State wrote:My assessment of the EROB video is as follows.

1. Lenin (speaks 100% true in the battle)
2. Putin
3. Stalin/Rasputin tie
4. Gorbachev (he loses points for entering on a terrible pun)


Nah. Gorby kicked their asses with his sick beat, and being the only one who at least somewhat favored democracy.
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Postby Shofercia » Fri May 03, 2013 12:29 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
The Marxist State wrote:My assessment of the EROB video is as follows.

1. Lenin (speaks 100% true in the battle)
2. Putin
3. Stalin/Rasputin tie
4. Gorbachev (he loses points for entering on a terrible pun)


Nah. Gorby kicked their asses with his sick beat, and being the only one who at least somewhat favored democracy.


By imposing a dictator on the Kazakh SSR. Democracy - the Gorbachivite Version!


Risottia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
True, but War Communism should've ended months earlier. It was a temporary shock-therapy solution. Lenin overextended it.

In terms of peace, I would've just withdrawn my armies a bit back, and created a new trench system. WWI was trench warfare, where the offensives and counteroffensives were brutal. Setting up defensive positions and constantly retreating, even in 1917, would've cost Germany a lot of lives, and they still had France and GB to deal with.

While, I agree about the dose of realism, we both know that there was more to it than that. Lenin didn't want any countries to have borders, that's part of why he agreed to Brest-Litovsk, thinking that USSR will get all of it back, so I wouldn't say that Lenin's vision was realistic.


Well, 30 years later... ;)


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Postby Diopolis » Fri May 03, 2013 12:43 pm

Peter the great.
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Postby Heavenly Peace » Fri May 03, 2013 12:51 pm

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