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Postby Lemanrussland » Fri May 03, 2013 2:56 pm

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Don't hear many liberals talking about how NK is racist because they have border controls.

Most Americans just think that the Norks are commies.

Juche is lost on them.

Most Americans probably don't actually understand what "Communist" means.

Take this comment from the the article OP linked

"Liberals always end up mass murdering their fellow citizens. ALWAYS. Stalin. Mao. Pol Pot. And why? Because Liberals only want to live and let live if they can force others to live their way. Coercion and bullying is they only thing they know or understand."

Really? Stalin is apparently a liberal now. :roll: This severely damages my faith in the intelligence of other people.

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Postby Wamitoria » Fri May 03, 2013 3:05 pm

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Wamitoria wrote:Most Americans just think that the Norks are commies.

Juche is lost on them.

Most Americans probably definitely don't actually understand what "Communist" means.

Fixed.

But that doesn't disprove my point.
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Postby Alowwvia » Fri May 03, 2013 3:18 pm

Oh man, people missing the point up in here.

Nearly a third of people in America are fed up enough to consider dusting off their hands, hoisting the black flag, and start fucking up the government's shit.

This says something about the state of the government, rather than 'people is fuckin stupid lol'
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri May 03, 2013 3:22 pm

Alowwvia wrote:Oh man, people missing the point up in here.

Nearly a third of people in America are fed up enough to consider dusting off their hands, hoisting the black flag, and start fucking up the government's shit.

This says something about the state of the government, rather than 'people is fuckin stupid lol'

18% of people believe the sun revolves around the earth. Obviously, this says something about "science".

http://www.gallup.com/poll/3742/New-Poll-Gauges-Americans-General-Knowledge-Levels.aspx
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri May 03, 2013 3:22 pm

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Three in 10 registered American voters believe an armed rebellion might be necessary in the next few years, according to the results of a staggering poll released Wednesday by Fairleigh Dickinson University’s PublicMind.

The survey, aimed at measuring public attitudes toward gun issues, found that 29 percent of Americans agree with the statement, “In the next few years, an armed revolution might be necessary in order to protect our liberties.” An additional five percent were unsure.

Eighteen percent of Democrats said an armed revolt “might be necessary,” as compared to 27 percent of independents and 44 percent of Republicans. Support levels were similar among males and females but higher among less educated voters.


http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/05/armed-rebellion-poll.php?ref=fpb

holyshit. what an absolutely insane country. fix your shit plz?

Or someone could reassure me by telling me how flawed this poll is?


Armed Rebellion is becoming more necessary as both Conservatives and Progressives are becoming the same shit with a different toilet, and are both the by-products of neo-liberal corporatist "democracy".

If the South tries to secede I've already decided: I will take my neighborhood and wall it in, get all the food we have and guns and create a Voluntarist Compound.
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Postby Lemanrussland » Fri May 03, 2013 3:22 pm

Alowwvia wrote:Oh man, people missing the point up in here.

Nearly a third of people in America are fed up enough to consider dusting off their hands, hoisting the black flag, and start fucking up the government's shit.

This says something about the state of the government, rather than 'people is fuckin stupid lol'

>black flag
Of course, all of these people are blithering intellectuals, like yourself. :roll:

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Postby Benuty » Fri May 03, 2013 3:23 pm

Alowwvia wrote:Oh man, people missing the point up in here.

Nearly a third of people in America are fed up enough to consider dusting off their hands, hoisting the black flag, and start fucking up the government's shit.

This says something about the state of the government, rather than 'people is fuckin stupid lol'


In the words of George Carlin " People are fucking dumb" thus they can be influenced way to easily.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri May 03, 2013 3:23 pm

Lemanrussland wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:Most Americans just think that the Norks are commies.

Juche is lost on them.

Most Americans probably don't actually understand what "Communist" means.

Take this comment from the the article OP linked

"Liberals always end up mass murdering their fellow citizens. ALWAYS. Stalin. Mao. Pol Pot. And why? Because Liberals only want to live and let live if they can force others to live their way. Coercion and bullying is they only thing they know or understand."

Really? Stalin is apparently a liberal now. :roll: This severely damages my faith in the intelligence of other people.


Stop insulting the word liberal with corrupt Russian "communist" and social progressive bullshit, thank you.

I am a real liberal.
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri May 03, 2013 3:23 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
DogDoo 7 wrote:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/05/armed-rebellion-poll.php?ref=fpb

holyshit. what an absolutely insane country. fix your shit plz?

Or someone could reassure me by telling me how flawed this poll is?


Armed Rebellion is becoming more necessary as both Conservatives and Progressives are becoming the same shit with a different toilet, and are both the by-products of neo-liberal corporatist "democracy".

If the South tries to secede I've already decided: I will take my neighborhood and wall it in, get all the food we have and guns and create a Voluntarist Compound.

SO EDGY AND COOL I WANNA BE JUST LIKE YOU WHEN IM 18 AND NOT 14 NYMORE.
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri May 03, 2013 3:24 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Lemanrussland wrote:Most Americans probably don't actually understand what "Communist" means.

Take this comment from the the article OP linked

"Liberals always end up mass murdering their fellow citizens. ALWAYS. Stalin. Mao. Pol Pot. And why? Because Liberals only want to live and let live if they can force others to live their way. Coercion and bullying is they only thing they know or understand."

Really? Stalin is apparently a liberal now. :roll: This severely damages my faith in the intelligence of other people.


Stop insulting the word liberal with corrupt Russian "communist" and social progressive bullshit, thank you.

I am a real liberal.

Stop insulting the word "Scotsman" with your bullshit.

I am a real Scotsman.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri May 03, 2013 3:24 pm

Lemanrussland wrote:
Alowwvia wrote:Oh man, people missing the point up in here.

Nearly a third of people in America are fed up enough to consider dusting off their hands, hoisting the black flag, and start fucking up the government's shit.

This says something about the state of the government, rather than 'people is fuckin stupid lol'

>black flag
Of course, all of these people are blithering intellectuals, like yourself. :roll:


Well, I'd like a black and gold flag, but black works too. No red though.

Green is debatable. No pink or purple. White I wouldn't support, nor gray.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri May 03, 2013 3:25 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
Stop insulting the word liberal with corrupt Russian "communist" and social progressive bullshit, thank you.

I am a real liberal.

Stop insulting the word "Scotsman" with your bullshit.

I am a real Scotsman.


No. The progressives hijacked the classical liberal term to try to garner support.

I AM a real liberal. Not a Neo-Liberal.
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri May 03, 2013 3:26 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Stop insulting the word "Scotsman" with your bullshit.

I am a real Scotsman.


No. The progressives hijacked the classical liberal term to try to garner support.

I AM a real liberal. Not a Neo-Liberal.

I AM a true Scotsman. Those other bastards stole the word.
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Postby Alowwvia » Fri May 03, 2013 3:27 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Alowwvia wrote:Oh man, people missing the point up in here.

Nearly a third of people in America are fed up enough to consider dusting off their hands, hoisting the black flag, and start fucking up the government's shit.

This says something about the state of the government, rather than 'people is fuckin stupid lol'

18% of people believe the sun revolves around the earth. Obviously, this says something about "science".

http://www.gallup.com/poll/3742/New-Poll-Gauges-Americans-General-Knowledge-Levels.aspx



Education failure and Religious horseshit to blame over here.

However, it's worth keeping in mind that the government is not perfect.
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Postby Divair » Fri May 03, 2013 3:29 pm

America needs to be occupied.

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Postby Frisivisia » Fri May 03, 2013 3:29 pm

Alowwvia wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:18% of people believe the sun revolves around the earth. Obviously, this says something about "science".

http://www.gallup.com/poll/3742/New-Poll-Gauges-Americans-General-Knowledge-Levels.aspx



Education failure and Religious horseshit to blame over here.

However, it's worth keeping in mind that the government is not perfect.

Not perfect. Necessary. Useful. Has its bad and good, but the government is an institution that the People need and has really great potential to do a lot of good.
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Postby Lemanrussland » Fri May 03, 2013 3:30 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Stop insulting the word "Scotsman" with your bullshit.

I am a real Scotsman.


No. The progressives hijacked the classical liberal term to try to garner support.

I AM a real liberal. Not a Neo-Liberal.

Neo-liberals are the "real liberals" you talk about. Hayek and Friedman are Neo-liberals. I don't understand the huge aversion people have to the term. It's like rejecting the word "neoclassical".

Social liberals and such became prominent during the Keynesian consensus of the post-WWII period. They effectively displaced "classicals" and claimed liberalism for themselves. It was only after the 1970s energy shocks and stagflation, and the resulting free market crusade that "liberals" (in the way you're describing them) actually became a significant political force again.

Of course, there were also other people who used the name "neo-liberal", like the Ordoliberals of post-WWII Germany. Although they are liberals which favor free markets, they are leagues away from the US "the free market can do no wrong" sort of neo-liberals that emerged later.

So yes, you are a neo-liberal. Don't be ashamed of yourself.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri May 03, 2013 3:31 pm

Alowwvia wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:18% of people believe the sun revolves around the earth. Obviously, this says something about "science".

http://www.gallup.com/poll/3742/New-Poll-Gauges-Americans-General-Knowledge-Levels.aspx



Education failure and Religious horseshit to blame over here.

However, it's worth keeping in mind that the government is not perfect.


All government oppresses by violating all our rights to "protect our rights".
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri May 03, 2013 3:33 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Alowwvia wrote:

Education failure and Religious horseshit to blame over here.

However, it's worth keeping in mind that the government is not perfect.


All government oppresses by violating all our rights to "protect our rights".

If there's no government, who will protect your rights? You will? Tell that to your local warlord.
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Postby Divair » Fri May 03, 2013 3:33 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
All government oppresses by violating all our rights to "protect our rights".

If there's no government, who will protect your rights? You will? Tell that to your local warlord.

Somalia stronk.

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri May 03, 2013 3:35 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
All government oppresses by violating all our rights to "protect our rights".

If there's no government, who will protect your rights? You will? Tell that to your local warlord.


It is my responsibility to protect my rights. I don't need idiots to do that.

Look at government. Police stops very little, since they arrive late usually.

Look at minarchy or anarchy: those who do attack are usually intimidated by knowing a gun is usually in every home.
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Postby United Paradisia » Fri May 03, 2013 3:35 pm

It's the banks, they are destroying the nation, and keeping it alive at the same time.
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Postby Lemanrussland » Fri May 03, 2013 3:35 pm

Divair wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:If there's no government, who will protect your rights? You will? Tell that to your local warlord.

Somalia stronk.

I can see what's coming next... these debates are like an acquired reflex to me at this point.

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Fri May 03, 2013 3:35 pm

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SaintB wrote:The USA is a strong nation because of our unity, everyone does things slightly differently but in the end its because we cooperate that we accomplished so much. A lot of us are forgetting that these days and think they'll do just fine on their own.

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Postby Divair » Fri May 03, 2013 3:36 pm

Lemanrussland wrote:
Divair wrote:Somalia stronk.

I can see what's coming next... these debates are like an acquired reflex to me at this point.

NSG becomes predictable. It works in patterns.


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